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Jorms_McGander

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Oct 17, 2023
478
So far, I just experienced a noticeable decrease in fluid output a few hours ago. Some chest pains and dizziness, but I'm alert and active as ever. Currently at work.

Food is a corporate lie created by Big Mac to get you to buy more burgers
I like the cut of your jib. I am hoping you remain comfortable as I have read this is one of the best choices for people in palliative situations who have religious objections to medical treatment. Seriously considering following in your footsteps and I appreciate you taking the time to share with us here 🙏
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
10,006
Good luck with your plan. I hope you find peace.

How do u feel today?
 
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TheUncommon

Student
May 19, 2021
105
I don't know where all of the fluid is coming from. It's not even particularly dark. I'm not even overweight.




I might willingly break my streak tonight. I hope you all learned something from this.
 
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life360d_on_me

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Apr 19, 2024
35
Up until now, this could possibly be the most peaceful method that can exist. I still feel completely norma

So far, I just experienced a noticeable decrease in fluid output a few hours ago. Some chest pains and dizziness, but I'm alert and active as ever. Currently at work.

Food is a corporate lie created by Big Mac to get you to buy more burgers
Dude. This is insane. You are a beast.
 
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TheUncommon

Student
May 19, 2021
105
I broke the streak. Drinking a 14oz kratom tea, but I don't think I'm at risk of refeeding syndrome. As always, you'll find out if I'm wrong.
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There's a tiny chance this may pivot into intentional refeeding syndrome... now I'm at McDonald's having an entire meal
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wow I really don't feel good
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i think i passed out twice and quickly recovered.... I ended up slump in the booth I'm in, out of energy, and laid there for three minute intervals.
(it just happened for a third time)


If you're looking for peaceful, absolutely do not go for an intention refeeding syndrome method.
 
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life360d_on_me

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Apr 19, 2024
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I broke the streak. Drinking a 14oz kratom tea, but I don't think I'm at risk of refeeding syndrome. As always, you'll find out if I'm wrong.
...

There's a tiny chance this may pivot into intentional refeeding syndrome... now I'm at McDonald's having an entire meal
...

wow I really don't feel good
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i think i passed out twice and quickly recovered.... I ended up slump in the booth I'm in, out of energy, and laid there for three minute intervals.
(it just happened for a third time)


If you're looking for peaceful, absolutely do not go for an intention refeeding syndrome method.
How long did you go? Total time?
 
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TheUncommon

Student
May 19, 2021
105
How long did you go? Total time?
94 hours. I then ate a sandwich, nuggets, chips, and pizza, and had about 32oz of fluid in total immediately afterwards.

It sucked at first, but after sleep, I feel normal. The back of my throat still very much hurts, maybe because I kept throwing up stomach acid during the fast.
 
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YosemiteGrrl

When will courage be mine
Dec 17, 2023
198
94 hours. I then ate a sandwich, nuggets, chips, and pizza, and had about 32oz of fluid in total immediately afterwards.

It sucked at first, but after sleep, I feel normal. The back of my throat still very much hurts, maybe because I kept throwing up stomach acid during the fast.
Will you go back and continue with VSED?
 
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TheUncommon

Student
May 19, 2021
105
Will you go back and continue with VSED?
I think I'll visit it again, yes. The only reason I lapsed was because of a conscious craving, not because of thirst or hunger. There really wasn't significant pain until I started eating again.
 
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WearyWanderer

Student
Nov 3, 2019
108
94 hours. I then ate a sandwich, nuggets, chips, and pizza, and had about 32oz of fluid in total immediately afterwards.

It sucked at first, but after sleep, I feel normal. The back of my throat still very much hurts, maybe because I kept throwing up stomach acid during the fast.
Do you have a very sensitive stomach or some type of condition which caused the puking? I knew it could cause nausea but not vomiting 😞 How often per day did the vomiting happen and how painful or uncomfortable was it?

This may be my only way out but I get nauseous extremely easily :'(

Also can you please explain what you mean by "a conscious craving" is what stopped you?
 
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Alexei_Kirillov

Missed my appointment with Death
Mar 9, 2024
681
Also can you please explain what you mean by "a conscious craving" is what stopped you?
Not OP and he can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing he's referring to mental hunger; when you don't eat enough for long enough, your body stops giving you physical hunger signals because it's a waste of precious energy, so instead it just makes you think about food (or a specific food in particular) a lot, sometimes to the point of obsession. Honestly I find mental hunger way harder to overcome than physical hunger, if anything because of its sheer persistence. This is why VSED is so hard, because the body has a bunch of tools in its toolkit to get you to eat, and it's not just going to go down without a fight.
 
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usernamenoonecares

Member
Apr 18, 2024
35
So far, I just experienced a noticeable decrease in fluid output a few hours ago. Some chest pains and dizziness, but I'm alert and active as ever. Currently at work.

Food is a corporate lie created by Big Mac to get you to buy more burgers
Are you still in VSED? How are you feeling right now
 
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theEndCH

almost gone.
Aug 29, 2023
81
I document my whole VSED journey here. I've had interruptions but I've been back in the process since April 15th.
 
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TheUncommon

Student
May 19, 2021
105
Do you have a very sensitive stomach or some type of condition which caused the puking? I knew it could cause nausea but not vomiting 😞 How often per day did the vomiting happen and how painful or uncomfortable was it?

This may be my only way out but I get nauseous extremely easily :'(

Also can you please explain what you mean by "a conscious craving" is what stopped you?
I just wanted a kratom tea. Not sure how else to explain that craving. I think of going to that bar as a reward for all of the bullshit from my job, so keeping myself from that felt like an immense punishment in its own right and overrode the desire to continue the method at that current moment.

I also felt it was appropriate to cancel this attempt as I would still going to be in public as part of my work schedule for the foreseeable future, so it would be impossible for me to see it through without any kind of intervention. It was a logical decision to cancel it until I was able to be by myself for an extended period of time. When I felt normal on the fourth day, it became improbable for me to gauge exactly when I'd need to "disappear" in order not to be found and saved. There was no non-delusional reason I could be expected to continue this method out until death as I would have eyes on me for every hour leading up to me passing out. I would have to schedule a time where I wouldn't be seen for weeks in order to complete this, which would imply that I quit my job, which would raise suspicion off the bat.

When I return to it, I think I'm going to simply fast for a few days in order to weaken my body in combination with a method like SN or hanging, instead of going through the entire VSED process. Waiting 100 hours to feel nearly no different than normal (as well as being apparently hydrated enough to sweat and expel liquid means that I'd probably be waiting almost double the amount of time to actually become dehydrated and pass out/dry up.

I think the absorption into my bloodstream after no liquid intake would cause me to pass out faster as my body absorbs the SN immediately.

I didn't have any kind of actual hunger in the slightest.

I wasn't nauseous at all. I just have GERD, which was the primary reason stomach acid kept coming my during my fast.

I also threw up after eating, but overeating is a very normal (and expected) catalyst for vomiting, especially after not consuming anything for multiple days in a row.
 
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WearyWanderer

Student
Nov 3, 2019
108
I just wanted a kratom tea. Not sure how else to explain that craving. I think of going to that bar as a reward for all of the bullshit from my job, so keeping myself from that felt like an immense punishment in its own right and overrode the desire to continue the method at that current moment.

I also felt it was appropriate to cancel this attempt as I would still going to be in public as part of my work schedule for the foreseeable future, so it would be impossible for me to see it through without any kind of intervention. It was a logical decision to cancel it until I was able to be by myself for an extended period of time. When I felt normal on the fourth day, it became improbable for me to gauge exactly when I'd need to "disappear" in order not to be found and saved. There was no non-delusional reason I could be expected to continue this method out until death as I would have eyes on me for every hour leading up to me passing out. I would have to schedule a time where I wouldn't be seen for weeks in order to complete this, which would imply that I quit my job, which would raise suspicion off the bat.

When I return to it, I think I'm going to simply fast for a few days in order to weaken my body in combination with a method like SN or hanging, instead of going through the entire VSED process. Waiting 100 hours to feel nearly no different than normal (as well as being apparently hydrated enough to sweat and expel liquid means that I'd probably be waiting almost double the amount of time to actually become dehydrated and pass out/dry up.

I think the absorption into my bloodstream after no liquid intake would cause me to pass out faster as my body absorbs the SN cimmediately.

I didn't have any kind of actual hunger in the slightest.

I wasn't nauseous at all. I just have GERD, which was the primary reason stomach acid kept coming my during my fast.

I also threw up after eating, but overeating is a very normal (and expected) catalyst for vomiting, especially after not consuming anything for multiple days in a row.
Not to be impolite but can you elaborate on the vomiting a bit more because I have some type of mild GERD and esophagitis now too and I vomited bile a little while back but that might have been from a stomach bug at the time.

Just concerned stomach-wise about this method I guess. Was it only a small amount of stomach acid that was coming back up then? Did it hurt or cause additional suffering?
 
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TheUncommon

Student
May 19, 2021
105
Not to be impolite but can you elaborate on the vomiting a bit more because I have some type of mild GERD and esophagitis now too and I vomited bile a little while back but that might have been from a stomach bug at the time.

Just concerned stomach-wise about this method I guess. Was it only a small amount of stomach acid that was coming back up then? Did it hurt or cause additional suffering?
No suffering. The back of my throat was just quite raw for a few days. Nothing unlike a routine sore throat.
 
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theEndCH

almost gone.
Aug 29, 2023
81
I also had to interrupt my VSED progress twice and I had no consequence each time.
 
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TheUncommon

Student
May 19, 2021
105
This will only be tangentially related, but last night I realised I subconsciously stopped eating and drinking again. I think now is around 30 hours since.

I think the difference now is that I'm using dehydration to hasten symptoms of heatstroke. Past few days I locked myself in my garage without AC in Florida heat, balled up in a heated blanket and weighed my body down with a giant beanbag on top of me to prevent air from getting in and to make escaping difficult. I was sweating gallons and was gasping for air, but it was more comfortable for me than enduring any sort of cold weather (due to some undiagnosed issue).

First time I did it, I lasted for about two hours before exiting. I intended to combine this with another method (posted within the attachment), but passed out before I could walk for more than a few steps. I became extremely weak, lightheaded, dizzy, and my mind drew a blank, only understanding that I needed to lay down. I was hoping my body was shutting down but I knew it was just cooling down and recovering.

So I'm going to keep trying to attain a high internal body temperature via multiple methods to retain heat. My body ideally passes out the same way as the first time, then my body temp increases further while I'm unconscious until it leads to permanent unconsciousness. Might get a space heater in the garage and point it at any open air gaps in my blanket.
 

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elderDrifter

Life is Transitory
Mar 9, 2024
41
Out of curiosity, why do you prefer VSED over other methods? @TheUncommon

Is it just because of the negative experiences you've had with SN and hanging, or are there other reasons?
 
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TheUncommon

Student
May 19, 2021
105
Out of curiosity, why do you prefer VSED over other methods? @TheUncommon

Is it just because of the negative experiences you've had with SN and hanging, or are there other reasons?
No other methods are reliable or accessible for me. SN is accessible, but I've just not had good experiences with it and will only use it as a desperate last resort in which I have no option for a luxury such as peacefulness, or in combination with another method.
Meanwhile, hanging is the polar opposite of reliable and absolutely not peaceful.
 
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theEndCH

almost gone.
Aug 29, 2023
81
Is someone interested in private or group chatting?
 
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