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Lastsauce
Experienced
- Dec 22, 2019
- 259
Mad dog brewing sells repurposed oxygen regulators only rated for less than 180 bar and most small nitrogen cylinders are 200 bar.
Why does he do that?
Is the sarco a fail as well?
Lastsauce
Experienced
- Dec 22, 2019
- 259
Maybe he gets them cheap and maybe they are good enough. I'm not an expert so I don't know how large safety margins oxygen regulators are required to have.
It's complicated and I'm dumb. I literally would need a list of everything I needed to buy with links to the item to make sure I'm getting the right thing. Then a step by step guide on what to do.
that doesn't exist as far as I know so I chose SN which does have a step by step guide
that doesn't exist as far as I know so I chose SN which does have a step by step guide
Most people here have gotten help but the hell didn't help. Or they're getting help but want a ctb method as a back up last resort. A safety net if you will.
Im doing PHP 7 hours a day right now and not getting any benefit. PHP is the most intensive therapy and treatment you can get besides in some psych wards that are actually good.
Most psych wards and PHP are absolute jokes and just money grabs sadly so people end up with ctb as last resort. :/
I have no idea how crucial this is. I just ordered a (mechanical) welding regulator with integrated flowmeter that is standardized for nitrogen with 200 bar .
Greenberg
nitrogenexit.blogspot.com
- Jun 28, 2020
- 1,063
I personally do not have a problem with him making a profit from his sales; it is the fact that he markets his regulators as true nitrogen regulators which in fact they are not, thereby intentionally misleading the public. As a medical doctor, you would presume that he would have the decency not to deceive.
I don't see any state having "euthanasia" on humans. Euthanasia is when a state is deciding (often against the will of a person) that his/her existance has alededly has no meaning.
Some countries and states are allowing people to choose life or deny it. This is the contrary to where a state is forcing either to die because of a condition or forcing to live under a condition. To achknowledge the right to choose is an appreciation of the dignity that lies in the freedome of a person. This freedome must include that even the most handicaped person has the right to choose to live. A differenciation between "worthy to live" and "not worthy to live" is nothing another person may ever decide.
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According to many members on this forum no. However idk havnt done it personally. I think it's major discomfort and mild pain before unconscious. That's my guess but idk
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Sorry I used the wrobg wording. By euthanasia, I meant assisted suicide. Not sure what the correct terminology is I'm not a native english speaker
chrisbate7
Student
- Sep 30, 2020
- 191
I tried the Nitrogen bag method exactly the way outlined in the ppeh and it didn't work ... obviously because here I am! The only thing maybe I didn't do well enough was let the whole bag fill up with nitrogen first. Before pulling down. I thought I had to take off my glasses so didn't see in the mirror enough to judge correctly. I passed out but the tank ran out and I went sprawling on the floor. I don't want to try that method again.
Wrennie
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- Dec 18, 2019
- 1,559
Well the Rebreather device technically kills by filtering out the CO2 from the air you exhale and just leaving the nitrogen, but it is no longer available for purchase and the one user on here that was making a guide for a DIY version quit the site before delivering on it, so I don't know of any other accessible means of using nitrogen to CTB as of now (it's not like we can hop inside a Sarco unfortunately.)
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Other have summed it up: costs, setting it up. In my case I'm also renting and physically weak, so If I buy the cillinder but then I don't use it in the short term I could be having to deal with moving the whole thing to a new flat.
Thank you for sharing. May I ask, how long did it take you to pass out and for how long you've been unconscious? Did you recover without any damage?
Because of the nitrogen bag not totally having filled up before I put it over my head may have taken 30 to 45 seconds to pass out. Really can't tell you how long I was unconscious but I do know the tank was on 0 left when I awoke. If it kept going I probably would have ctb. Had the canister they recommend on ppeh. I think 80. It may have been leaking before. Could smell something and got a headache after assembling it Though it still said 100 % full on the gauge. I also if I ever did it again would make sure the neck bag was tighter because your head falls back making it more open. Recovery...it may or may not have made my agoraphobia worse. Not sure. People die and come back to life having had no oxygen to their brain for a while and are I guess are ok so I'm not sure why I don't try it again. It was a euphoric feeling passing out. Personally I would get an even bigger canister of nitrogen if they sell it. I would wait to put it together until right before. I guess it just wasn't my time to go.
Good to know you are here and gladly without any damage! Thanks for your detailed reply. You mentioned the size of your canister is 80? cf? What pressure? Just asking to calculate how much gas was in it and how long it has been running with a flow of 15lpm. Was the bag still on your head when becoming conscious again?
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Max dog brewing co. is where ppeh says to get your regulator valves from. If you look at the brewing co. pics online 2000 is in green meaning full. They say to make sure the tank is full before starting. Cyber weld is where they said to get the 80 cf tank from but their designs on 80 changed and looks like it wouldn't fit the valve. So other places to get the tank might be better. Yes, the bag was still on my head. But I awoke so quickly I sort of jumped/fell out of it on to the floor.
Actually just researched and they said 40 or even 20 cf was enough so I probably won't do it since 80 didn't work for me.
i reckon your issue was the max dog brewing regulator, it seems they don't work.
You are either full of shit or obviously did not do this correctly. Are you suggesting you survived an hour in a zero oxygen environment? You obviously didn't.
Greenberg
nitrogenexit.blogspot.com
- Jun 28, 2020
- 1,063
Of course, the PPeH will say to purchase a regulator from MDB. Both are owned by Dr. Nitshche. It is called, "self-dealing!"
As Aap said, in normal conditions there is no way one can survive anoxia after an hour. Severe brain damage is to be expected after the first minute(s), death after 15.
Here is a graphic from michigican medical school at michigan university:
Here is a graphic from michigican medical school at michigan university:
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Greenberg
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Really nice graphic, would you mind if I were to include it on my blog? Thanks in advance.
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