Why does nobody want to suicide with opioids?

[Spitfire]

Yea, they really need to be combined with other types of medications to be sure and try and make it work.

A heroin addict with a large habit could consume and inject lethal amounts to a horse.

 

[spider2020]

A heroin addict with a large habit could consume and inject lethal amounts to a horse.

Right. The same applies to the many people with chronic pain or intractable pain syndrome that increase dosage over time not because O becomes ineffective, but because their conditions gets worsbe because of increasing chronicization of their syndroms.

O for ctb dosage is a real problem.

 

[Spitfire]

Right. The same applies to the many people with chronic pain or intractable pain syndrome that increase dosage over time not because O becomes ineffective, but because their conditions gets worsbe because of increasing chronicization of their syndroms.

O for ctb dosage is a real problem.

It should not be a problem to begin with to end their life if this is what they wanted.. in the first place. It is already known.

I want to believe in humanity to eventually change, I really do.. on soo many different levels, actually.

Some places in the world help people with their decision about it, legally.

We do not usually let animals suffer when we love and care about them they often get euthanized.

There is evidence of this that we already know... and it is possible it may eventually change for some of the people coming up in the future.

 

[MariV]

i have a lot of tapentadol and MST at home..i wonder if that would work

 

[voyager]

Mainly as mentioned, it's hard to get/administer for the average citizen and no certainty of what one acquired or how pure. Me, personally, I'd also want to be fully aware during the act. Be myself. Alcohol I can deal with but with drugs it's like I'm out of control. Not a bad thing under normal circumstances maybe, just not during ctb. Also if it's so blissful I'd maybe want to repeat it and kill myself later. Very counter-productive.

Would love anaesthetics/morphium etc. though. Had it a couple of times with surgery and it's so peaceful slipping away.

 

[ronigail9]

I survived a severe IV Fentanyl dose of about 1/2 gram. I was in the ICU with 27 doses of narcan over 2 days. I was found 3.5 hours after my shot by my sister who never before visited my house. It was very unfortunate

I woke up in hospital In some of the worst pain of my life everything was so much louder like 100x louder than I have ever heard
I was forced to go to mental hospital where I met my now Husband surprise

Fent is GREAT if you can find it and use alone

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Which type?
I would, just can't get my hands on them

 

[Meditation guide]

I survived a severe IV Fentanyl dose of about 1/2 gram.

How is that possible? And you were found 3.5 hours later? Wow.

 

[Bardia]

I would very much like to use opioids to seal the deal, but obtaining sufficient quantities for a sure death is troublesome, to say the least.

 

[Meditation guide]

I would very much like to use opioids to seal the deal, but obtaining sufficient quantities for a sure death is troublesome, to say the least.

I wonder what sufficient quantities would be.

 

[mathieu]

Opioids are unreliable. Read the PPeH

 

[MariV]

Opioids are unreliable. Read the PPeH

even a full box of mst(morphine)?

 

[mooncake]

I wouldn't because im intolerant to opiods. So it wouldn't be a comfortable death for me.

 

[Infinite Conscious]

I would love to use the opiates more than anything else, but I do have a high tolerance and fucked up opiate receptors after a long-term heroin addiction.
I can't even imagine how much I would need to CTB... not less than 10g, but considering the bad purity on the street, even that much could not be enough.

I have never tried Fentanyl, but if I come across it in the next 5 months (I plan to do it in February on my birthday at the latest)... I'll gladly give it a try.

 

[Bardia]

I wonder what sufficient quantities would be.

There are several variables: purity and type of the product, your body mass, how efficiently your body processes and breaks down the active ingredients, the means of dosing yourself, and so on.

 

[MartyByrde]

IV opiate + oral benzos + maybe a bit of alcohol

Time it right with the opiate to benzo interaction. Don't get drunk.

Sounds good to me!

Sounds like an average night for me.

 

[Meditation guide]

IV opiate + oral benzos + maybe a bit of alcohol

Would this work if taken orally? On a side note, I read that grapefruit juice potentiates, makes stronger, opioids.

 

[Bauhaus]

Would this work if taken orally? On a side note, I read that grapefruit juice potentiates, makes stronger, opioids.

Nope, bioavailability is much lower and you will throw up.

 

[Meditation guide]

Nope, bioavailability is much lower and you will throw up.

What if you take an anti emetic first?

 

[Bauhaus]

Orally you would have to take a huge amount and no anti emetic will help.
Rectally could be an option, bioavailability is 60%, from what I read here.

 

[Meditation guide]

Rectally could be an option, bioavailability is 60%, from what I read here.

Why would bio availability orally be lower? What if you take it with equal amount of benzo?

 

[Bauhaus]

Prolly because of first pass metabolism, when you take it IV or rectally it's absorbed into your blood directly.

 

[Sk1n1M1n]

It's the itching and feeling hot wakes me up tried to get high on the stuff for a long time my body is used to it now.

 

[ronigail9]

How is that possible? And you were found 3.5 hours later? Wow.

I still wonder how it is possible to this day. People do survive and some other people call them miracles. I counted every IV dose of narcan administered to me in the hospital which was 27 including at home and in the ambulance as recorded on the hospital report I requested. My favorite clothes I wanted to die in, an expensive knit sweater and shit cut right down the middle

I wish so much that I had died. But now I am married.

 

[Aap]

There is no "max" for dilaudid. That's nonsense. Hydromorphone and related natural (morphine) or semi-synthetic (oxycodone) dosages can be scaled as high as is needed for an individual (be they naive or tolerant) for the desired effect.

 

[Life_is_comedy]

When I read the partners thread I always wonder why almost nobody wants to use opioid overdose for suicide.. I mean this seems to be the most peaceful way and probably without severe damage if you wake up again.
In contrast to SN which most people here seem to prefer. But it has some really negative reports by people who failed with it. Like pain, nausea, I would get panic waiting like 15-30 minutes until it kicks in. And if you survive I could imagine this will last for days or weeks or you might even get irreversible damage...

Thing is opoids that can cause death are hard to come by. Yes, there are morphines available in pharmacies but you need a prescription for that and the ones being sold in the shelves are slow acting and release. It's not gonna kill you if you if you overdose.

Morphine used is hospitals to administer death are the ones I'm looking for but good luck getting one if you don't work in a hospital.

 

[mathieu]

even a full box of mst(morphine)?

It might work if you have no tolerance whatsoever but I've taken huge amounts of morph and heroin and I'm still here.

 

[MariV]

It might work if you have no tolerance whatsoever but I've taken huge amounts of morph and heroin and I'm still here.

well i also have several boxes of tapentadol (big ones), diazepam, zolpidem...mb all together would work. but probably SN is better

 

[Sinkinshyp]

on the net this morning was the top ways americans die and here is: dang it I copied it and than copied something else and lost it. But OD via meds was in there maybe 18th or so specificially named Oxycodone as the top one.

 

[Depressive1995]

why you talking like i can just go up to any pharmacy and buy this stuff

already hard to get SN. how would i even get opiod

ai would advise you telegram drug groups, at least they are preaenrt in germany and probably also in other countries

Ohhh IV In Your Arm & You Drift Off Forever My Idea Of The Perfect CTB Why This Cannot Be Legal For Anyone Suffering Physical Or Mental Pain I Don't Know Mental Pain Is Not Easy To Live With Add Physical Pain Life Can Be Very Hard To Carry On Living With

I Completely Understand Why People CTB Because There Is Not A Legal Way Out
It's A Big Shame:(
We Don't Ask To Be Born We Should Have A Say If We Want To Die

yeah man that's fucking it, but these fucking governments don't care about this, these it's same with the whole war on drugs, it's insane, inhumane, crucial, just unbelievable but most normal people just don't care because they are hypocrite, ignorant human

It should not be a problem to begin with to end their life if this is what they wanted.. in the first place. It is already known.

I want to believe in humanity to eventually change, I really do.. on soo many different levels, actually.

Some places in the world help people with their decision about it, legally.

We do not usually let animals suffer when we love and care about them they often get euthanized.

There is evidence of this that we already know... and it is possible it may eventually change for some of the people coming up in the future.

these nazis will never change at least not if not many people worldwide protest against inhumane yinsane politics like euthanasia ban and war on drugs..

I would love to use the opiates more than anything else, but I do have a high tolerance and fucked up opiate receptors after a long-term heroin addiction.
I can't even imagine how much I would need to CTB... not less than 10g, but considering the bad purity on the street, even that much could not be enough.

I have never tried Fentanyl, but if I come across it in the next 5 months (I plan to do it in February on my birthday at the latest)... I'll gladly give it a try.

nice I wish you luck man
there is lnly one fucking way for me:opioids!