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kitkat7777

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Why do people think suicide is a cowards way out?
 
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SleepingGirl

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Because they're so scared of death and people who think differently then them they project onto the people that want to die by actively attacking them.
 
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ThatFlyGuy

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Feb 20, 2023
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I can only assume they see it as such a selfish act because you're killing your self while others have to live through life and your death, ie theoretically making you a coward if you're the most dim witted fella out there

I've honestly always though suicide is human nature, when you are suffering from a cut you take painkillers, when you are suffering from life, you can try to recover or try to end it all, stopping pain isn't some "selfish act", it's just your reaction to the pain of the world.
 
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kitkat7777

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I can only assume they see it as such a selfish act because you're killing your self while others have to live through life and your death, ie theoretically making you a coward if you're the most dim witted fella out there
Honestly tho..if suicide was a option avaliable for an ethical and painless way out...alot of them would be signing up too. Truth is it takes alot more than people think to put a gun to the head..jump off a building..etc.
 
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ThatFlyGuy

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Its hard for most people to change there beliefs maybe with time I could see them consider it as okay but I wouldn't expect the most of them to commit to it.
 
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Rob1984

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I don't think everybody believes it is a cowards way out. In some situations, people truly are being cowards for committing suicide. A lot of people make a big mistake in life, and instead of taking responsibility, they run away by CTB. Aside from people who use suicide to run from a mistake of theirs, I think the other reason people may view suicide as cowardly is because it is often a permanent solution to a temporary problem which affects everyone in that persons life. A lot of young people who CTB do it irrationally because they can't grasp how short-term their problem may be. I knew a teenager who CTB cuz he broke up with his gf. Now that may sound like a silly reason for a teen to CTB, but that teen thought it was reasonable; he couldn't imagine spending the rest of his life without his gf.

Those are some reasons people say suicide is cowardly. But not everybody thinks it is, and not everybody CTBs for the same reason.
 
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nembutal

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they expect strength from every individual born into this earth. you must conquer whatever hardship life throws your way. "life is fair because its unfair to everyone". "life is hard". why struggle through it then? when you ask someone this question they often grow silent. or opt out with some religious excuse.

this raises questions about whether medically assisted suicide receives the same criticism. i would think those who are physically disabled would be given a pass on this harmful rhetoric. as always mental pain remains invisible.
 
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Viranamari

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Feb 22, 2023
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From my experience, it's because they think everyone has hardships in life. (I agree with the hardship part, the only difference is how severe the problem is) And that CTB is escaping your troubles and not facing your hardships.
Personally, I ignore people who say suicide is for cowards. It's my life and I have every right to whether or not I should CTB. I hope this helps.
I don't think everybody believes it is a cowards way out. In some situations, people truly are being cowards for committing suicide. A lot of people make a big mistake in life, and instead of taking responsibility, they run away by CTB. Aside from people who use suicide to run from a mistake of theirs, I think the other reason people may view suicide as cowardly is because it is often a permanent solution to a temporary problem which affects everyone in that persons life. A lot of young people who CTB do it irrationally because they can't grasp how short-term their problem may be. I knew a teenager who CTB cuz he broke up with his gf. Now that may sound like a silly reason for a teen to CTB, but that teen thought it was reasonable; he couldn't imagine spending the rest of his life without his gf.

Those are some reasons people say suicide is cowardly. But not everybody thinks it is, and not everybody CTBs for the same reason.
That might be true that CTB is sometimes done out of impulse.
I really can't imagine the amount of guilt the girlfriend has to go through.
 
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itsallpointless

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Because they don't have the guts to deal with others pain
 
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umbra_

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Feb 21, 2023
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I think a lot of people who say that don't understand the level of pain suicidal folks are experiencing.
 
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missingpeace

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Feb 4, 2023
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Because they think it takes more bravery to live then die when the opposite is true.
 
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absolomonisgone

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Jan 23, 2023
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I don't think everybody believes it is a cowards way out. In some situations, people truly are being cowards for committing suicide. A lot of people make a big mistake in life, and instead of taking responsibility, they run away by CTB. Aside from people who use suicide to run from a mistake of theirs, I think the other reason people may view suicide as cowardly is because it is often a permanent solution to a temporary problem which affects everyone in that persons life. A lot of young people who CTB do it irrationally because they can't grasp how short-term their problem may be. I knew a teenager who CTB cuz he broke up with his gf. Now that may sound like a silly reason for a teen to CTB, but that teen thought it was reasonable; he couldn't imagine spending the rest of his life without his gf.

Those are some reasons people say suicide is cowardly. But not everybody thinks it is, and not everybody CTBs for the same reason.
Suicide is a permanent solution to the permanent problem called life if see life as a permanent problem permanent problem called life makes everything not temporary as is part of the whole problem if life is the problem everything in it is problem and must be ended
 
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Rational man

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Its a reminder to the living that we all do die and that living with pain and suffering is worth it because they can't deal with our end of life. Some cultures see ctb as honourable such as in Japan. Other cultures connect a religious theme such as the sanctity of life. CTB is a one- way ticket so it should never taken lightly or impulsively.
 
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SamTam33

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Oct 9, 2022
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Somebody said it once and everyone started repeating it.

When asked to explain any personal tenets, most people always lead with "Well that's what I was taught" and/or "Well that's how I was raised", and/or "Well the Bible says."

Very little original thought going on inside most brains.

In most any other instance, death is viewed as brave or noble or sacrificial, e.g. Jesus died for our sins.

Die in war - even though you enlist knowing there's a high probability? Brave.

Die during child birth, even though no one made you have babies? Noble.

Jump in front of a bullet... you get the picture.

But if we kill ourselves, it's cowardly. Oh ok.

Well, color me a coward.
 
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SuicidalSheep

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They live in a just world fallacy, think life is a meritocricy, with optimism bias, pro life social propaganda and lots of survival instinct pro life bias and think suicide is way easier than it actually is while never thinking about the fact that suicidal people never even consented to life in the first place.

The people who call it cowardous think it's a selfish, easy way out of avoiding the facing of responsibilities and working hard through challenges which hurts the people around them. The suffering of the suicidal person is not considered, nor is the responsibility of their surroundings, instead it is all placed on the suicidal person. Most people will never question their illogical beliefs as long as it's what their taught and hear around them. No matter how hard the cognitive dissonance.

Meanwhile they don't understand how difficult it is to get through survival insinct, pain, and jow risky a lot of suicide is. It could leave you worse off like a vegetable through permanent damage if you fail. In reality, suicide takes a lot of guts and pain, and the people around them are cowards for not being able to handle the negative reality we live in.
 
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FuneralCry

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Sep 24, 2020
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If someone says such a thing then they shouldn't be listened to, it's ridiculous and ignorant to believe that suicide is "cowardly". I believe that people who say things like that live under this delusion that existence is always worth enduring and prolonging, they don't want to accept the fact that suicide is a perfectly logical and valid option so they shame suicidal people, and won't even try to understand.

But anyway no matter what people say I will always admire those who choose to ctb and the courage that they had. It certainly isn't straightforward after all to end all the suffering. I believe especially those who resorted to terrifying methods like hanging and jumping were very brave.
 
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yive

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Nov 6, 2020
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the manipulative concept of "strength" was invented by people/society to glorify those who endure suffering. like a candy as a reward for the slave obedience. i mean, they can call us "cowards", "weak" all they want, cause we refuse to be like these glorified endurers, but they'll never prove that there is something wise about their "being strong" concept and just coping with everything. it's like "being strong for the sake of being strong" and that's it, just stupid. for the sake of society saying you: "oh, you are so strong!!!". so my advice is never listen to this manipulative bullshit. there is nothing wrong with being a "coward" by their definition, i want to say. have you ever thought: maybe it is wise to be a coward in this world?

EDH says: "Stupidity = to cause (or allow) suffering to yourself"
 
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Rob1984

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Suicide is a permanent solution to the permanent problem called life if see life as a permanent problem permanent problem called life makes everything not temporary as is part of the whole problem if life is the problem everything in it is problem and must be ended

I want to respond, but I genuinely do not understand what you just said :/
 
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Ruma

Ruma

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Dec 26, 2021
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Suicide is far from cowardly,it takes balls of steel to take your own life!
 
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Rob1984

Rob1984

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Jan 8, 2021
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I really can't imagine the amount of guilt the girlfriend has to go through.

It was horrible. At the time, the boy publicly blamed her for his death on social media, and as a result she was bullied for "indirectly killing" the boy. A lot of people tried comforting her, but there was a handful of kids who really psychologically hurt her for the entire thing (as if she wasn't already traumatized enough). Few weeks later, she attempted to CTB, but failed and was hospitalized. Never saw her after that, and her family ended up moving cities pretty quickly b/c of the entire thing. I don't know anything beyond that b/c I can't find her on google. It's safe to say her entire life is poisoned from this, along with her family. Words cannot express how tragic the whole thing was. 😞
 
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Archness

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Jan 20, 2023
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Because they earnestly bellive we live in a "Just World" where all problems and pain can just be fixed. You must simply "fix" all your problems. You must stop running from your problems and face them head-on. But what good is that when you can't even make a dent? At that point you're either a coward for running or weak for being unable to solve it.

People who say you're "brave" for enduring pain with nothing getting done (but damage I guess), or "strong" for litterally just being alive, are basically virtue-signalling.
"I'm a good person, I told 'em they're strong and brave to make things better!"
But anyway no matter what people say I will always admire those who choose to ctb and the courage that they had. It certainly isn't straightforward after all to end all the suffering. I believe especially those who resorted to terrifying methods like hanging and jumping were very brave.

Truth. To take a step back and asses, to decide if life's worth living, going so far to kill themselves, knowing and understanding what death entails, and having the will to go through. There are certainly some positive aspects to people making this choice.

Because they're so scared of death and people who think differently then them they project onto the people that want to die by actively attacking them.

Heh, "Projection" is an odd way to put it. That seems like, them kicking someone they see as "weak" in my eyes. If someone called you a cowered for being suicidal, do you think they'd give a shit if you actually did it?
 
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lost&lonely

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Jan 6, 2023
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Why do people think suicide is a cowards way out?
Because they have absolutely no idea of the pain we have thrust upon us on a daily basis. Just because they can't see an illness they cant comprehend, but rest assured if it were them then they would contemplate a way out just as we do.
 
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SleepingGirl

SleepingGirl

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Heh, "Projection" is an odd way to put it. That seems like, them kicking someone they see as "weak" in my eyes. If someone called you a cowered for being suicidal, do you think they'd give a shit if you actually did it?
I suppose it all really depends on the person. I'm mostly generalizing things, most hatred and anger akin to one attacking another like calling you a 'coward' for one wanting to escape through death is usually driven by fear or pain whether it's towards the enactment of dying or the idea that the suicidal person has enough balls to kill themselves to escape this hellscape but the one attacking them does not so they feel resentment thinking they took the easy way out. They could however also have never fully mentally developed in the brain as a child in which case if they couldn't feel basic empathy or attachment then no, they wouldn't give a shit.
 
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Archness

Archness

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Jan 20, 2023
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Personally I think hatred and anger are mostly based on superiority, or inferiority. Tearing others down to make yourself higher.

calling you a 'coward' for one wanting to escape through death is usually driven by fear or pain whether it's towards the enactment of dying or the idea that the suicidal person has enough balls to kill themselves

I doubt such people would have the awareness to entertain that idea, but your idea that those people project their own fears, or cowardice against to those who lack it, calling them cowards, actually does make sense. Good point.
 
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Rob1984

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Jan 8, 2021
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Suicide is far from cowardly,it takes balls of steel to take your own life!

I think suicide is mostly unrelated to cowardliness or bravery. It seems to revolve around hope and desperation. The more and more desperate someone becomes, the more they overcome their survival instinct. That's why people often CTB after something really bad happens in their life- it's a sudden overload of desperation and lost of all hope.
 
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Archness

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I think suicide is mostly unrelated to cowardliness or bravery. It seems to revolve around hope and desperation. The more and more desperate someone becomes, the more they overcome their survival instinct. That's why people often CTB after something really bad happens in their life- it's a sudden overload of desperation and lost of all hope.

Suicide certainly revolves around hope and desperation, but regardless it does take a strong will to overcome SI.
 
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SexyIncél

SexyIncél

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Aug 16, 2022
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I knew a recovered suicidal person who told me that suicide's the coward's way out. I assume it was partly rhetoric to stop me from dying. Partly a lie she tells herself to keep going

Often, madness keeps us going
 
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Unsure and Useless

Unsure and Useless

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Feb 7, 2023
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Because, to them, what better way to stop people from ending their own suffering than through shaming them into not doing it?
 
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loneliestman

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Why do people think suicide is a cowards way out?
People say it's a cowards way out because your choosing not to fight and they don't understand it. They don't understand that you fight every day in your mind. Life is hard and it has peaks and troughs but the reality is that life is simply hard and complicated. We all have our challenges. If you feel that you have no other option than to CTB (I always found that a stupid acronym, thought it should be KTB as in kick the bucket) then maybe ask yourself why are you here asking for help/advice. I want to CTB/KTB but I'm afraid! I'm afraid how my son will feel, I'm afraid how my friends will feel and I'm afraid how my family will feel. I want to do it, I know it's the right thing to do but I also know I'm not well and things could get better. I respect everyone's choice but as an overthinking impulsive person I also feel I'm being selfish when I think these notions. I don't think it's right to try to talk anyone out of their plans but maybe they might try being an empath and remember no matter how hard things are; simply talking to a friend or saying something out loud could actually help. How would you feel if your brother sister or best friend CTB'd. it's sad and you'd probably wish they had talked to you about it. Maybe just talk to your friends or family. Maybe just do it. Only you know! I hope you talk to someone, even me if you want to, SM me. Like I said, I feel like CTB'ing every day. But I'm still here and so are you. I hope things get better. And your no coward !! Cowards cower and your here talking !
 
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