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AdultVirgin

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Its almost like you've done something wrong if you haven't violated a woman

Even if it hasn't been your choice

Adult virgins should be celebrated, and considered moral leaders, but society seems to want to do the exact opposite

Women especially seem disgusted by male adult virgins

This is something no one ever really talks about

But adult virgins seem to be regarded as inferior human beings just about everywhere you go, except for on incel forums such as incels.is and mensrights.space

There is so such "virgin shaming" nowadays, but in the past, it used to be quite the opposite

Some say that this change is due to the rise of feminism

That the more female-dominated society gets, the more the males that women naturally find unattractive will have their social status lowered

It seems to be that virgins make non-virgins look like creepy predators, but no one else seems to see it this way

In fact, they see it the exact opposite way

Virgins are considered everything bad - predatory, pathetic, everything

They get shat on from ALL angles

They should get a big reward

The catholic church has always known this, and has rewarded them by making them priests and bishops

But the catholic church doesn't seem to openly celebrate virginity anymore

I wonder if the new pope is even a virgin?
 
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Cauliflour

The one who doodles.
Mar 24, 2025
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It's cause traditional gender roles state that women have to be all pure and shit before marriage and men are the leaders so they have to do it right and thus having a high body count is seen as cool. Bullshit really.

It's not feminism's fault, it's just the leftover shit from a time before that is refusing to move along because men wanting to deviate from their traditional role is seen as "weak" because they're supposed to be the strong ones on top and that's why things such as men's mental health are never taken seriously. Trust me, it's annoying on the opposite side too. I don't think men and boys should be pressured into having a lot of sex just because society tells them it's what's expected of them. We need to help both sides, not just one but that's too complicated for a lot of people to understand with their TikTok rotted brain so it's never promoted like that.

Also are you asexual or something? You talk about sex like it's all rape and assault. That women never ever enjoy it and that men have no control, so that the ones who have never done it must be due to having standards. I think the reason why priests have to be celibate is because back in the olden days, everyone got married but if the priest of the village was married then he wouldn't have all his time to devote to religion and helping out the community, and the celibacy thing was to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
 
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Bradux512

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Apr 22, 2025
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Its almost like you've done something wrong if you haven't violated a woman

Even if it hasn't been your choice

Adult virgins should be celebrated, and considered moral leaders, but society seems to want to do the exact opposite

Women especially seem disgusted by male adult virgins

This is something no one ever really talks about

But adult virgins seem to be regarded as inferior human beings just about everywhere you go, except for on incel forums such as incels.is and mensrights.space

There is so such "virgin shaming" nowadays, but in the past, it used to be quite the opposite

Some say that this change is due to the rise of feminism

That the more female-dominated society gets, the more the males that women naturally find unattractive will have their social status lowered

It seems to be that virgins make non-virgins look like creepy predators, but no one else seems to see it this way

In fact, they see it the exact opposite way

Virgins are considered everything bad - predatory, pathetic, everything

They get shat on from ALL angles

They should get a big reward

The catholic church has always known this, and has rewarded them by making them priests and bishops

But the catholic church doesn't seem to openly celebrate virginity anymore

I wonder if the new pope is even a virgin?
This world is so upside down...
A female adult virgin PRAISED
A female sleeps around SLUT SHAMED
A male sleeps around CASANOVA...
 
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Emerita

Ending my suffering
Jan 16, 2025
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Shaming someone for not having had sex reveals a lack of empathy and critical thinking, it's blind adherence to societal norms. The stigma on men because it reinforces patriarchal expectations not feminist values. Real feminism advocates for gender equality, aiming to dismantle rigid gender norms so that identity isn't confined to expectations. But many beliefs about sex are socially conditioned. There is no 'normal' age, frequency, or amount for consensual sex everyone's experiences are unique. Socially it is expected to meet certain 'milestones' along the way, some people are uncomfortable with something they see as abnormal and will rationalize, ie., seeing virgins as flawed, instead of seeing humans as more diverse. Those who constantly feel judged for their lack of sexual experience may internalize this, harming their self-esteem and even making it harder to seek sexual experiences. Others might externalize it, blaming others. While some remain secure in their choices may still face pathologization or disbelief, those struggling with shame maybe more likely to be seen negatively due to real or perceived cognitive dissonance in their behavior
 
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Dejected 55

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May 7, 2025
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People never made sense to me. Even when I was a kid.

Boys praised for having sex... girls shamed for it. Boys expected to have experience before marriage, girls shamed for it.

Except... who are those boys getting their experience from? Outside of gay/lesbian people, those boys are having sex with girls and being praised for doing so all while those exact same girls are shamed for it. It makes exactly ZERO sense.

I was a virgin until 28 and had my first experience with an escort. It was an empty experience for me. I didn't know how to feel about it so I tried talking to my father. He congratulated me. That confused me even more. I decided that he was probably just glad I turned out not to be gay after all. Since I wasn't a womanizer, didn't talk with people about how I wanted to "do" whatever woman was nearby, wasn't out to get in all the women I saw pants, didn't hang posters of bikini or nude woman on my walls growing up, and didn't have a girlfriend... a lot of people, parents included, figured I was gay.

For what it's worth, I have nothing against gay people either. You love who you love, and in my opinion this world is often so horrible and it is so nearly impossible to find anyone to have in your life who loves you... I'm for damn sure not going to take issue with anyone finding someone to love who loves them whether you're gay, straight, or whatever as long as we are talking two (or more I suppose if that's your thing) consenting adults.

I still tried to go on dates and have an actual relationship, but when those never happened I kept trying escorts just to feel something... but it was always empty. I stopped with escorts at 33. I'm 55 and haven't had any form of contact with a woman since then. Haven't had a date even since about that same time, a little longer actually.

I would rather have no sex than to pay for it and feel disconnected and empty. I would rather be alone than in a bad relationship. But I never ever wanted to spend the rest of my life alone. I do wish I were still a virgin, but you can't unring that bell. Since it was always with escorts and never with someone who actually wanted to be with me for who I am... it's so empty and I learned literally nothing from it, and I wish I were still a virgin now so that I didn't have that baggage in my life. Of course it doesn't matter since virgin or not, women never are attracted to or love me anyway.

I am sure, though, that as I got older and continued to have virtually no experience... that plays a part too. Women don't want men who are inexperienced. Women don't want a man that no other woman wants. That screws with my brain too. I never wanted to be a player or learn how to attract all the women. I don't want to date 3 women at the same time, even if that were possible for me to do. I only ever wanted to spend time getting to know a woman with mutual attraction and we spend time together, hopefully it's a lifelong lasting relationship... but if we tried and it didn't work, I could make peace with that and maybe try again. But that has never happened.

In my opinion men and women should neither be praised or shamed for their sexual experience. Some guys aren't going to like women with lots of experience. That's fine. Some women aren't going to like men for inexperience, and that's fine. All combinations are out there in the world and as long as you aren't being a hypocrite I think it's fine. By which I mean... don't be a guy who has had a dozen partner and expect your next woman to have had 2 or fewer. If you prefer women with less experience, I feel like you should have less experience yourself.

Speaking of me... when I was young and still a virgin, I did hope to meet a virgin. Not because I was judging her, but because I felt like we would be learning and growing together and sharing all that uniquely with each other. But when I made the choice to have sex with escorts because I was afraid of not knowing what sex was like or knowing if I was any good at it... that went out the window. I would be fine with a woman who has had similar experience to myself. That's the evolution of experience. I wouldn't turn down a virgin partner, but I would feel guilty for having had the kind of experience I've had if she had none. Of course I don't like the idea that I might be competing with her past lovers either... but maybe she would feel like she is competing with mine even if I tell her mine were all escorts... or maybe some women would reject me outright for having sex for money at all.

In the end none of it matters to me because I've given up... but I don't know why society is so screwed up in all these competing beliefs and "rules" for how men and women should treat sex.
 
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vitbar

Escaped Lunatic
Jun 4, 2023
456
Hate is weird, but I understand a degree of unease about getting into a relationship with a virgin when not one yourself. My own unease comes from a few places: Fear of added awkwardness, fear of my partner not having figured out what they like in a lover, and a sense of pressure because it's a "milestone" of sorts.

To put it another way: My views on virginity and sex are different having had sexual relationships. Before losing it I put a lot more weight on losing it, and that difference in perspectives can be off-putting, or at least I prefer partners to be on the same side of this "milestone". Not that I would never date a virgin, it's not really a big deal besides my overthinking here.

tbh the topic of virginity has been tarnished by people like Elliot Rodger too.
 
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bankai

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Mar 16, 2025
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would rather have no sex than to pay for it and feel disconnected and empty.
very commendable. I watched a documentary about the Amsterdam sex trade, very disturbing. lot of trafficking and suffering.
 
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foreverfalling

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Jul 22, 2022
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Other way around, people that are looked down upon remain virgins, because no one wants to have sex with them or anything to do with them. If you've got the looks, money or status then you're not going to remain a virgin.
 
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Apathy79

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Oct 13, 2019
662
Yeah I'm not sure being a virgin on its own is the big deal. It's more the type of men that are still virgins into their 30s or whatever tend to have a bunch of qualities that are undesirable, and those qualities are the real issue. The other big one these days is being so petrified of being seen as creepy that they never express anything that could even be interpreted as interest to any women ever and just hope it somehow works out anyway.
 
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WhatCouldHaveBeen32

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Oct 12, 2024
166
Where does this happen? Who does this? The church? Why care for what a corrupt shithole thinks about you?

If someone berates you and looks down upon you for such a small thing, then they aren't worth your time, if you want them to be worth your time, if you want to associate with people who'd treat you like this, then I don't know what to tell you.

When I was 13 I had long hair for a boy, you know what I did if people talked about it like it was the plague? (they assumed I was gay and they were religious , gay = bad) I stopped talking to them, I started to ignore them.

What can they do to me? Nothing, because they were the same as dogs behind a cage, they can bark all they want, in truth when shit hits the fans, those people become small puppies, it's not like they have some control over your life, stop thinking about shit like this.

If the people that mattered in your life started talking about you in this manner and start to belittle you for something so minor , then yes, I would start to worry somewhat, maybe reevaluate who I've been spending time with, but who cares about what an evil organization (church) thinks? Those pedos can rot in hell for all I care.

Also you shouldn't care about this because you are pressured into a relationship to prove them wrong, for your information, relationships in theory should be something you do with someone out of mutual respect and love, I can point you to 50 families who ended up together just because religion said it's the right thing to do, all these families are in absolute turmoil every single day. You can't force stuff like this.

Also I don't think any of my girl- friends who are feminists hate virgins? I think they hate actual creeps/sexists, people who when given the opportunity insult them just for the fact that they are girls , in games, in public , etc.

If those creeps happen to be virgins it doesn't mean that they hate all virgins, that's a dumb thing to say honestly. I can hate any person I want for something, if that person happens to be black and trans does that make me transphobic and racist? What does that trait about them have to do with the initial hate I have for them, I hate them because they are an asshole, plain and simple, the rest is just their own life.

And remember, there can be Jews that are Nazis, Trans people who are Muslims, Girls who are sexist, Men who are sexist. You need to view individuals as human, humans are flawed and can always and have always managed to be evil to a certain extent, no umbrella or catalogue of "tags" (I don't know how to express it) will give someone immunity from being an asshole. I know girls who want to be tradwifes and hate gay guys because the church told them so, they can go fuck themselves lol. They are girls yes, so? I judge the human, not the gender, not the race. You should start doing the same.

Don't go down some weird pipeline into hating a certain group, except the church and mega corporations that use propaganda, you can hate those fuckers all day everyday; these is just how humans are, you will find a piece of shit in every group and sometimes you will find a person worth your time, don't judge an entire group of people but be on your guard to be disappointed. I have terrible parents, yet I don't hate other people's parents , I only hate the shit ones.

So what if you are a virgin? who cares about that old 70 yo relic religious fat fuck who is a piece of shit that judges you? who cares about what some backwards middle of the nowhere person has to say about you? Live what rest of your life you have without giving a fuck about these bastards, they are dumb, they are scared of what doesn't fit the norm, try to be a good person to those who are good to you and try to be neutral to those who are evil to you, cut them off , don't feed them more hate back. Just ignore them, they hate that.

And don't go hugging the first person who feeds you what you want to hear, that person doesn't feed you this information to help you, they just want your money and attention, they wouldn't do it if there wasn't something to get out of you. Those people also don't come to these conclusions themselves, they are always taught to say them but they don't really take time to analyze what the hell they are saying, grifters exist to make more grifters, they are like the buzzlightyear meme. You know why some politicians say things so proudly? it's because they don't understand what they are saying, they are saying the things they are taught to say, they have no autonomy nor critical thinking.

I'm typing this because I'm tired to see threads like this, try to read what I said and understand that there is no grand oppression from people as equally oppressed as you, the hate that comes is from people who believe that they are superior to you and in no reality could they be your friend or family unless YOU yourself want to be an asshole and are angry that you haven't succeded yet and "are excluded from your rightful place" , see the Jews that got angry at the Nazis for killing them, then the remaining Jews went to kill Polish people; this is a thing that actually happened. Don't be like that, if people reject you for something so minor, no need to associate with them anymore.

Also if you are doing it; Stop going for the classic grifter pumped full of steroids who sells you lies and reads his thoughts from a paper, he is a hairless ape, nothing more. At least this was my theory from where you would get such views and takes. When will people learn that muscles =/ good person. We are Homo Sapiens, not Homo Habilis, we should value intelligence and critical thinking, not shitty vanity and lies, and the people who value that vanity and lies should be an auto exclusion from your friends/family list from now on because they are only doing harm to you.
 
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CatLvr

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Aug 1, 2024
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NOTE: TL;DR is at the bottom ( not my fav place to be 🤭🤗) but the message here isn't about me and what I enjoy:*****

I had a guy tell me one time he'd date me if I lost 20 pounds. I told him that was too bad because I didn't date guys who were shorter than me.

I've had several guys tell me that they'd date me but I'm a slut and they can't take me "take me home to momma". I asked every single one of them why they thought I would EVER date someone like them. (We were all sleeping together -- what you kids call friends with benefits now.)

I've had more than one guy bemoan the fact that their girlfriend, wife, SO didn't have the same skills I had but I was "not respectable" and so they couldn't leave their girlfriend, wife, SO. And I dumped every single one of them like a hot potato.

I wasn't going out with them because I caught feelings for them (and I made that completely clear at the very beginning)⁸. No, I was a single mom who spent the majority of her time with her kids. (I was a bartender and these guys were fellas I picked out, screwed at 2:30 in the morning and then went home to catch a few Zzzzzzzs before my kids got up to get ready for the day.)

If anyone even hinted they were catching feelings I dumped them on the spot. I wasn't looking for a man to take care of me and my kids. I was looking for a good time for 15-20 minutes because I was ... Dare I say it outloud lest anyone think I'm a slut?? ... HORNY! And like everyone else on the planet I enjoy a good romp from time to time. 🤷🏻

Does that make me a slut?? Really?? I didn't hear anyone complaining when they were "enjoying" my company. I learned early in my life that if you are careful -- and pay attention -- you can figure out what someone REALLY enjoys (or wants from you if your interaction with them is OUTSIDE the bedroom) without too much effort at all. THAT is what makes a good lover. It's not that complicated and sometimes it is a curse. I am not beautiful by any stretch of the imagination, btw. What I am is approachable, attentive and willing to try just about anything. And that makes me a pariah -- well until some married guy who hasn't had a decent piece of ass in several years gets a bump-up. Jeez ...

Anyway, I don't understand why either "state" (guys being virgins or gals being experienced) is such a big deal. It's called life and we are ALL at different stages, depending on the strengths and weaknesses we all came into being with.

You can look at it as being unfair but I choose to stop and think -- what can I change?? What can I NOT change and have to learn to live with?? Why? What happened in my previous existence in this universe did I do (or not do)?? Or believe or not believe?? Or refuse to give grace to? Or was I just too damned judgemental about?? Or what beliefs did I carry (being an empath can be a curse) that made it easy for others to use and abuse me (thus making me partially responsible for their uhmmmm "short-comings" and maybe not teaching them that respect for others boundaries is a good thing to have).

*****TL;DR: I have been labelled a slut. And I don't get the big deal with labels. Not for people like me or people who are virgins well into their young adulthood. Of all the things that should be important when choosing a companion, body count is on the back of Page 2857292047829 at the very bottom of the list.

Yes, I know. I'm a weirdo.
 
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AdultVirgin

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NOTE: TL;DR is at the bottom ( not my fav place to be 🤭🤗) but the message here isn't about me and what I enjoy:*****

I had a guy tell me one time he'd date me if I lost 20 pounds. I told him that was too bad because I didn't date guys who were shorter than me.

I've had several guys tell me that they'd date me but I'm a slut and they can't take me "take me home to momma". I asked every single one of them why they thought I would EVER date someone like them. (We were all sleeping together -- what you kids call friends with benefits now.)

I've had more than one guy bemoan the fact that their girlfriend, wife, SO didn't have the same skills I had but I was "not respectable" and so they couldn't leave their girlfriend, wife, SO. And I dumped every single one of them like a hot potato.

I wasn't going out with them because I caught feelings for them (and I made that completely clear at the very beginning)⁸. No, I was a single mom who spent the majority of her time with her kids. (I was a bartender and these guys were fellas I picked out, screwed at 2:30 in the morning and then went home to catch a few Zzzzzzzs before my kids got up to get ready for the day.)

If anyone even hinted they were catching feelings I dumped them on the spot. I wasn't looking for a man to take care of me and my kids. I was looking for a good time for 15-20 minutes because I was ... Dare I say it outloud lest anyone think I'm a slut?? ... HORNY! And like everyone else on the planet I enjoy a good romp from time to time. 🤷🏻

Does that make me a slut?? Really?? I didn't hear anyone complaining when they were "enjoying" my company. I learned early in my life that if you are careful -- and pay attention -- you can figure out what someone REALLY enjoys (or wants from you if your interaction with them is OUTSIDE the bedroom) without too much effort at all. THAT is what makes a good lover. It's not that complicated and sometimes it is a curse. I am not beautiful by any stretch of the imagination, btw. What I am is approachable, attentive and willing to try just about anything. And that makes me a pariah -- well until some married guy who hasn't had a decent piece of ass in several years gets a bump-up. Jeez ...

Anyway, I don't understand why either "state" (guys being virgins or gals being experienced) is such a big deal. It's called life and we are ALL at different stages, depending on the strengths and weaknesses we all came into being with.

You can look at it as being unfair but I choose to stop and think -- what can I change?? What can I NOT change and have to learn to live with?? Why? What happened in my previous existence in this universe did I do (or not do)?? Or believe or not believe?? Or refuse to give grace to? Or was I just too damned judgemental about?? Or what beliefs did I carry (being an empath can be a curse) that made it easy for others to use and abuse me (thus making me partially responsible for their uhmmmm "short-comings" and maybe not teaching them that respect for others boundaries is a good thing to have).

*****TL;DR: I have been labelled a slut. And I don't get the big deal with labels. Not for people like me or people who are virgins well into their young adulthood. Of all the things that should be important when choosing a companion, body count is on the back of Page 2857292047829 at the very bottom of the list.

Yes, I know. I'm a weirdo.
The only thing i'd condemn you for is rejecting a guy for being shorter than you

Many women seem to do that, which is one of the reasons they say women are primitive and simple

Its definitely no better than rejecting a guy for being black
It's cause traditional gender roles state that women have to be all pure and shit before marriage and men are the leaders so they have to do it right and thus having a high body count is seen as cool. Bullshit really.

It's not feminism's fault, it's just the leftover shit from a time before that is refusing to move along because men wanting to deviate from their traditional role is seen as "weak" because they're supposed to be the strong ones on top and that's why things such as men's mental health are never taken seriously. Trust me, it's annoying on the opposite side too. I don't think men and boys should be pressured into having a lot of sex just because society tells them it's what's expected of them. We need to help both sides, not just one but that's too complicated for a lot of people to understand with their TikTok rotted brain so it's never promoted like that.

Also are you asexual or something? You talk about sex like it's all rape and assault. That women never ever enjoy it and that men have no control, so that the ones who have never done it must be due to having standards. I think the reason why priests have to be celibate is because back in the olden days, everyone got married but if the priest of the village was married then he wouldn't have all his time to devote to religion and helping out the community, and the celibacy thing was to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

i'm not asexual

but I believe that sex could be like rape and assault for an adult as much as it could be for a child

adults are very very similar to children
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

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Too many people care way too much about sex, it's brainrotted society to the point where many young men are taught that they can't bond with a woman without sex, sex is the ultimate goal in relationships and the deepest form of intimacy, etc. It's why relationships fall apart if a partner gets sick and can no longer do it everyday, or for example why many women who give birth lose their husbands during the healing period where they physically can't have sex anymore.

Way too much value is placed on getting laid and it's very harmful to both men and women's self esteem, if your self-worth is solely based on how much you screw. Don't listen to the people on those forums, they're projecting their own insecurities when they put down virigins, there is nothing wrong imo with not wanting to have sex. A better determinant of "success" socially should be someone's overall social abilities and being able to form bonds with people.
 
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The only thing i'd condemn you for is rejecting a guy for being shorter than you

Many women seem to do that, which is one of the reasons they say women are primitive and simple

Its definitely no better than rejecting a guy for being black
But it was okay for him to tell me I was too fat for his tastes. Dude, he fired the first shot. But that was okay, huh?? 🤷🏻

And I'll have you know I have dated black guys. And a guy from Pakistan. And an oil and gas engineer. And a couple of guys who were virgins (we were all in college). I know it's hard to believe but I was a virgin once. 🙄

Personally, I have always preferred black men. They have, to the man, been respectful, kind and very affectionate. Certainly not something I could say about a lot of white men -- though some were. Or American Natives. Or the Pakistani.

I'm trying to figure out what your point is ... Is it okay for a man to belittle a woman, but she is not supposed to say anything back. Except "Well, I guess I better get that 20 pounds off so you will fuck me" of course. 🙄🙄🙄

And just so you know, I'm not offended by your comment. Just shows me the kind of person you are. Women may be "primitive and simple" but men are primitive, simple ... And childish ... 😉😋😘 I still love them though. They are definitely handy at times. 🥰🥰🥰

My biggest problem with men is even if you are upfront about your motives (not looking for a relationship, just a good time) they STILL get their feelings hurt when you cut things off when they tell you THEY want to leave their wives and kids and move in with you and your kids. Wtf, dude?!?!?

If you "get with" a guy who will leave his wife and kids for you what do you have?? A guy who will leave you and your kids, that's what. 🤷🏻
 
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But it was okay for him to tell me I was too fat for his tastes. Dude, he fired the first shot. But that was okay, huh?? 🤷🏻

And I'll have you know I have dated black guys. And a guy from Pakistan. And an oil and gas engineer. And a couple of guys who were virgins (we were all in college). I know it's hard to believe but I was a virgin once. 🙄

Personally, I have always preferred black men. They have, to the man, been respectful, kind and very affectionate. Certainly not something I could say about a lot of white men -- though some were. Or American Natives. Or the Pakistani.

I'm trying to figure out what your point is ... Is it okay for a man to belittle a woman, but she is not supposed to say anything back. Except "Well, I guess I better get that 20 pounds off so you will fuck me" of course. 🙄🙄🙄

And just so you know, I'm not offended by your comment. Just shows me the kind of person you are. Women may be "primitive and simple" but men are primitive, simple ... And childish ... 😉😋😘 I still love them though. They are definitely handy at times. 🥰🥰🥰

My biggest problem with men is even if you are upfront about your motives (not looking for a relationship, just a good time) they STILL get their feelings hurt when you cut things off when they tell you THEY want to leave their wives and kids and move in with you and your kids. Wtf, dude?!?!?

If you "get with" a guy who will leave his wife and kids for you what do you have?? A guy who will leave you and your kids, that's what. 🤷🏻

Your weight is relatively within your control

Your height is not within your control at all
 
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i'm not asexual

but I believe that sex could be like rape and assault for an adult as much as it could be for a child

adults are very very similar to children
>concent is key bbg. Sex is rape if it's rape, not if it's good ol consentual sex. (Please always ask if ur partner is okay w what ur doing I've been victim to not being asked and it was a little traumatic)
Ah also weird values
Also saying adults are similar to children is kinda disturbing...

>catlvr "its hard to believe i was virgin once"
ON GOD... and so real. I've like fucked so many people it's kinda weird to think about, and I think it I were to fuck anymore my heart would end up breaking irreparably :c
Also w the whole guys wanting to abandon their kids thing. Probably related to non loyal men being more promiscuous. Kinda sad that someone like that would have kids in the first place :c
Like ik my dad fucks around w a few girls but he'd never abandon me for them.

Your weight is relatively within your control

Your height is not within your control at all
Srs dude? Just because it's within your control doesn't make it a not rude thing to say.
 
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Your weight is relatively within your control

Your height is not within your control at all
Spoken like a "REAL" man, dude. Lol

You ever heard of PCOS?? Yeah ... I have tried every diet on the planet. The weight comes off but it doesn't STAY off. Even when I was doing RunNGuns and training every day -- walking/running with weights 10 pounds more than the weight of all my gear and climbing up and down off the top of my shed so many times week after week for 6 months that my neighbors all thought I'd lost my mind -- I couldn't keep the weight off.

But ... Yeah, totally my fault he didn't by a pair of those elevated shoes and wear them. Or hang upside down every day to "stretch his spine out". 🙄🙄🤣🤣🤣

Sheesh ... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Fact is he was an asshole. To just assume that I would starve myself JUST to get a piece of THAT dick is hysterical. How presumptuous. I might have been easy but that doesn't mean I'm willing to let someone berate me like that without responding. Besides, if he was that tone deaf in social settings (he said that to me while we were in a group of people, some who didn't even know me) can you just imagine how horrible he would be in bed?? 🙄🙄 And THAT was the reason he didn't get to partake of my extensive skill set. 😉 I don't respond well to people who think it is okay to try and make me feel like shit.
 
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(Please always ask if ur partner is okay w what ur doing I've been victim to not being asked and it was a little traumatic)
Sorry that happened to you. I agree you should always ask, consent should not just be assumed, consent is ongoing and needs to be respected. It's crucial to ask, listen, and respect boundaries.
 
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>concent is key bbg. Sex is rape if it's rape, not if it's good ol consentual sex. (Please always ask if ur partner is okay w what ur doing I've been victim to not being asked and it was a little traumatic)
Ah also weird values
Also saying adults are similar to children is kinda disturbing...

>catlvr "its hard to believe i was virgin once"
ON GOD... and so real. I've like fucked so many people it's kinda weird to think about, and I think it I were to fuck anymore my heart would end up breaking irreparably :c
Also w the whole guys wanting to abandon their kids thing. Probably related to non loyal men being more promiscuous. Kinda sad that someone like that would have kids in the first place :c
Like ik my dad fucks around w a few girls but he'd never abandon me for them.


Srs dude? Just because it's within your control doesn't make it a not rude thing to say.
adults really are similar to children

equal human beings

that shouldn't be anymore disturbing than the idea that blacks are similar to whites
 
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adults really are similar to children.
No what, even from a biological standpoint children are completely different to adults. Let alone all the social relevancies too.

Adulthood is biologically directly related to being able to have offspring and raise young. Sex and adulthood are super intertwined. It's really creepy to say adults shouldn't be having sex because they're similar to children when they straight up arent.
 
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No what, even from a biological standpoint children are completely different to adults. Let alone all the social relevancies too.

Adulthood is biologically directly related to being able to have offspring and raise young. Sex and adulthood are super intertwined. It's really creepy to say adults shouldn't be having sex because they're similar to children when they straight up arent.

biologically and physically they are different

mentally they are similar
 
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biologically and physically they are different

mentally they are similar
NO, they are not. Not even close. Look at all the studies that have proven that even teenagers' brains are still developing and not the same as adults.
 
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NO, they are not. Not even close. Look at all the studies that have proven that even teenagers' brains are still developing and not the same as adults.

I know that I was ready for an "adult" life, when I was a "child"
 
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Your weight is relatively within your control

Your height is not within your control at all
Rude is still rude, though. Mean is still mean. Now, I also believe in honesty, as in... I wish women who rejected me in the past could have been honest with me. I mean, if it was something personal to them that had nothing to do with me then they don't owe me any of that... but if it was something about me that turned them off, I would have at least liked to know even if wasn't something I could or would want to change. At least I would have learned something. But I would have appreciated them not being mean in the process.

Meanwhile... many years ago I was eating lunch with a guy from work. A table very near to us had two women sitting and talking. We weren't trying to overhear them, but they were talking loud enough and the place was just quiet enough that we could hear their conversation. I don't remember all of it or verbatim, but the gist was... One woman was relating a recent dating experience. She had been on a date with a guy, and she said the guy was telling her that he wouldn't date a fat girl or a girl who became fat. He said he "could tell" by looking at a girl who was likely to get fat later and he would just dump them early. He said she looked like someone who wouldn't get fat. She said she wasn't going to see that guy anymore, which was good to me. Seemed like he was a problem waiting to happen. I really wanted to go over to their table and say something nice to her and tell her that dude sounded like an asshole, but that would mean revealing hearing their entire conversation and I thought that might be embarrassing to her so I said nothing.

But afterwards, I couldn't help but think that even though she had dumped him... this was a dude who probably got dates all the time. Women, even if they dumped him quickly after talking to him, were way more willing to give him a chance than someone like me. I'm not super ugly, but I'm not handsome. I'm always friendly and kind and considerate, though. I have never been rich but until now I've mostly been in good situations. Even (and like now) having a house and a car... what I don't have is the player mentality of I can take or leave women that everyone says is what women like. And to be fair, I see those jerky guys having women all the time and I've never had anyone... so maybe it is true. That is also depressing.

Even the Harvey Weinsteins of the world... those guys have people lining up to defend him still today. I'm not talking about victims who begged people to help... I'm talking about people who just looked the other way and hand-waved it afterwards. OJ was getting girlfriends long after his situation too. Extreme examples maybe, but it seems like the worst guys who aren't even shy about it never seem to have problems finding women. Why is that? It makes no sense.

Most guys aren't horrible... I'm not saying that. I'm just saying the horrible ones never seem to have an issue finding someone to exploit.

But, side-tangent ramble there... if you aren't attracted to someone with extra pounds to obese, that's fine. You don't have to be. You can choose to tell her that or not, but if you do be kind about it! Why make someone feel bad when you don't have to?
 
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