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CrestfallenMima

CrestfallenMima

Staring into the abyss
Dec 28, 2021
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I'm considering caffeine OD over hanging as my primary suicide method. To me it seems like the only people who survived this method either got help before they could die or took not enough caffeine.

I'm thinking about drinking down a gram of caffeine powder, with antiemetics taken beforehand, in a remote location so I can't get help while I'm doing it. I know that it can take hours before you actually die and that it's going to be painful but I still prefer it over a lot of other methods on here. Anyways I'm not going to ctb right now, I just want your thoughts.
 
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Snake of Eden

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Jun 22, 2021
2,473
Bad idea.
 
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Jack'sWastedLife

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Oct 28, 2021
8
This is my method too. Quite a bit more of the powder though. I've done a lot of reading; doesn't seem like the worst way to go.
 
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littlelungs

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Oct 21, 2018
646
I personally wouldn't do it if I had other options, but I also don't know that much about it.
 
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CrestfallenMima

CrestfallenMima

Staring into the abyss
Dec 28, 2021
160
This is my method too. Quite a bit more of the powder though. I've done a lot of reading; doesn't seem like the worst way to go.
Do you know what's the worst what could happen if you survive? From my understanding you just end up vomiting and peeing a lot which is a far cry from getting brain damage and ending up in a wheelchair like other methods could cause.
 
lostautist

lostautist

wandering
Jan 12, 2022
225
1g probably isn't close to enough. but I do drink a lot of very strong coffee. I'll have a 6 shot tall with caffiene enriched coffee and add 4 40mg STOKs so that's probably 400-500mg in one serving and can do that several times a day.
 
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willitpass

willitpass

Don’t try to offer me help, I’ve tried everything
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this can cause multi organ failure if you were to survive. it would be excruciating. there is a chubbyemu video on caffeine overdose and it is not pretty
 
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Jack'sWastedLife

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Do you know what's the worst what could happen if you survive? From my understanding you just end up vomiting and peeing a lot which is a far cry from getting brain damage and ending up in a wheelchair like other methods could cause.
Yeah, it wouldn't be very pleasant if you tried and failed (headache, vomiting, etc.), but I didn't come across any permanent or debilitating results, at least in what I read anyway. Seems "safe" enough in that respect.
 
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mandyjohnuk

mandyjohnuk

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Jul 6, 2021
388
Bad way to go
Palpatations.
Sweats.
Vomiting.
Dioreah.
Eventually heart attack and death.
 
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Crazy4u

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Sep 29, 2021
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I don't think it is a good idea because success rate is low.
 
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You'd be better off breathing in a flowing N20 Nitrous oxide together with partial.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,802
Horrible idea. One of the most painful ways to go out. There's a lot of accounts you can read from people who were given drugs laced with caffeine powder instead of the actual substance, and they suffer excruciating symptoms that in many cases can be permanent.
 
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Manaaja

euROPE
Sep 10, 2018
1,474
The longer something takes the bigger the chance you will change your mind. Don't underestimate the survival instinct. If caffeine killed you in ten seconds, then it would be a very good method, but anything that takes more than a few seconds/minutes usually ends up with your survival instinct winning. There'd be a really huge chance your survival instinct would make you call for help. And like others said, it might be painful either physically or mentally or in both ways. Poisonings often have a low success rate.
 
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CrestfallenMima

CrestfallenMima

Staring into the abyss
Dec 28, 2021
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1g probably isn't close to enough. but I do drink a lot of very strong coffee. I'll have a 6 shot tall with caffiene enriched coffee and add 4 40mg STOKs so that's probably 400-500mg in one serving and can do that several times a day.
I don't drink coffee so I don't think I have any caffeine tolerance. Not to mention I'm really unhealthy, like I feel exhausted after a 4 minute walk unhealthy. So I honestly feel like a gram is already a overkill
Bad way to go
Palpatations.
Sweats.
Vomiting.
Dioreah.
Eventually heart attack and death.
Someone who did a caffeine overdose in this forum mentioned zoning out and not being able to feel pain at a certain point. They had a profile picture of a cat, if someone can find their thread that would be great
 
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lostautist

lostautist

wandering
Jan 12, 2022
225
I don't drink coffee so I don't think I have any caffeine tolerance. Not to mention I'm really unhealthy, like I feel exhausted after a 4 minute walk unhealthy. So I honestly feel like a gram is already a overkill

Someone who did a caffeine overdose in this forum mentioned zoning out and not being able to feel pain at a certain point. They had a profile picture of a cat, if someone can find their thread that would be great

Yeah, I still wouldn't recommend it. It's not really a poison and toxicity levels aren't really known... you might suffer hypertension. Or suffer like the video, but I highly doubt you'd experience the effects you would like to and die.
 
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Sherri

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Sep 28, 2020
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Very bad idea, imo also .
 
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CrestfallenMima

Staring into the abyss
Dec 28, 2021
160

I feel like it varies between people. I once heard about a case of a teenager who collapsed on the floor after digesting just 500mg of caffeine powder at a party, without experiencing any seziures. I'm going to look for the article.
On a side note chubbyemu makes me feel like there's a incredibly easy suicide method we are missing out on, like he once did a video about a student who died after eating pasta.
I found the article but it was from the dailymail so it's most likely fake, nevermind
Edit: After doing more research I think the story is real and it could have been a adult.
 
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myopybyproxy

flickerbeat \\ gibberish-noise
Dec 18, 2021
864
Here is my experience. This was my first - and to date, only - suicide attempt from when I was 16.

I texted some friends goodbye - though I'm sure I would have survived regardless due to my method failing, this was how I was found and was the direct cause of the shitshow that ensued in the months following; do not notify anyone unless your goal is to be treated like an infant and prisoner for the next year at least - and took 20g caffeine in conjunction with 32.5g aspirin. No recent use or tolerance to either. I had not eaten in six to eight hours - I forget exactly. I had not slept in 36-40 hours.

I did not take antiemetics, which was my second mistake. I have bulimia - I thought I can simply tell myself not to vomit, just do the opposite of what I usually do. I found out the hard way that body and brain messages are very different. You can resist the former but eventually you will give in. As long as you are in human form it is inevitable. I failed to take this into account. Whereas the latter requires constant motivation and internal push - I forced myself to vomit for my eating disorder, it did not come easily to me. Do not mix up the body and brain signals.

The caffeine dissolved in contact with the most minute amount of moisture - they melted in my sweaty hands - and the taste was quite bitter. Once all 200 pills were swallowed, I sliced my thighs up for fun - shallow cuts, not intending to die from them - just to admire the blood and out of curiosity to spot any difference to usual due to the aspirin thinning my blood. I distinctly recall it looked like paint and that I was impressed with the pattern I drew on myself.

I then attempted to slit my wrists with a pencil sharpener blade. This required more force than I anticipated, and the small, rather dull blade kept getting stuck in my flesh. I was tired mentally and did not have the energy needed to succeed at this - just wanted to take something and fall away into nothingness, not have to put in effort, blah. Eventually, I gave up hope that I would bleed out. A wave of nausea unlike anything I have ever felt before overtook me. Though I tried, I was unable to resist. I partially missed the toilet but no matter. I hoped there were still enough pills in my stomach to do the job. Perhaps at this point there were.

I turned out the light and prepared to die from myocardial infarction. My heart rate was beginning to speed up. If I closed my eyes, flashes of light - akin to a pulsating galaxy - popped into my field of vision. I desperately wanted to lose consciousness and be dead already, but the flashing light and my pounding heart kept me stuck conscious. Yet the heart attack never came. At some point the sweating was no longer on my attention. I forget if I actually stopped sweating or only stopped paying attention to it. I expected to - but did not feel - alert. However, caffeine at normal doses does not affect me the way it does most people; I get only a mild head buzz rather than a true stimulation or sense of awakeness.

I laid down in the fetal position and vomited uncontrollably again shortly thereafter. Lying on the linoleum tiling, I became cold. I haphazardly put on my hat, socks, and clothes (I had been wearing only underthings). The cuts on my wrists stopped bleeding before I fell asleep - they were crusting over when I put my clothes on. I awoke to a bald man shining a flashlight in my eyes and asking me had I taken the entire contents of the empty pill bottles and did I drink anything.

Third lesson - don't wear anything you like. My clothes were ruined with vomit - even if they hadn't been, upon arrival the medics stripped me naked. I never found out where my clothes went - found out later they were tossed in a drawer, became mouldy, and had to be discarded. It's unfortunate. I was quite fond of that hat.

The practical lessons from my story end here - recounting the aftermath will only upset me. You can imagine it well enough yourself if you have any experience with psychiatry or the mental 'health''care' 'profession'. I put all the apostrophes because it is a bloody fucking joke. Pun intended - I self harmed more during 'treatment' than at any other point in my life.

I know that regardless of what others may tell you, you will make your choice. Although I may not agree with it, I respect that it is your choice to make. But I implore you, learn from my mistakes. Do not be like me.
 
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Sep 12, 2020
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I have only seen this method described as extremely painful.

If you choose an extraordinarily painful method, SI will be even more difficult, even impossible to overcome in most cases. You must possess and iron will and a pain tolerance that goes beyond the limit of the types of physical pain that are endured in daily life. Most people will not be able to handle it.
 
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GentleJerk

GentleJerk

Carrot juice pimp.
Dec 14, 2021
1,372
This caffeine OD idea pops up way more often that it should. It's bizarre.
 
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Chiisai

Chiisai

To infinity and beyond!
Sep 1, 2021
754
Big nope. Drank an equivalent of a crate of monster energy drink and it just gave me a really bad headache lasting a day and some palpitation that lasted a few minutes. The headache just made me want to CTB more.
 
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Someone123

Illuminated
Oct 19, 2021
3,875
I'm considering caffeine OD over hanging as my primary suicide method. To me it seems like the only people who survived this method either got help before they could die or took not enough caffeine.

I'm thinking about drinking down a gram of caffeine powder, with antiemetics taken beforehand, in a remote location so I can't get help while I'm doing it. I know that it can take hours before you actually die and that it's going to be painful but I still prefer it over a lot of other methods on here. Anyways I'm not going to ctb right now, I just want your thoughts.
I just looked at a scientific paper on this subject based on cases in japan- it was published 1/16/21 on a website called medicalcasereports. Out of 101 hospital admissions 7 patients had a cardiac arrest and 3 of them died. This seems like a long shot method to work with a lot of potential for damage if it doesn't work.
 
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Jan 17, 2022
146
Not the most popular method but it can work. You just gotta take enough caffeine.
 
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CrestfallenMima

CrestfallenMima

Staring into the abyss
Dec 28, 2021
160
Here is my experience. This was my first - and to date, only - suicide attempt from when I was 16.

I texted some friends goodbye - though I'm sure I would have survived regardless due to my method failing, this was how I was found and was the direct cause of the shitshow that ensued in the months following; do not notify anyone unless your goal is to be treated like an infant and prisoner for the next year at least - and took 20g caffeine in conjunction with 32.5g aspirin. No recent use or tolerance to either. I had not eaten in six to eight hours - I forget exactly. I had not slept in 36-40 hours.

I did not take antiemetics, which was my second mistake. I have bulimia - I thought I can simply tell myself not to vomit, just do the opposite of what I usually do. I found out the hard way that body and brain messages are very different. You can resist the former but eventually you will give in. As long as you are in human form it is inevitable. I failed to take this into account. Whereas the latter requires constant motivation and internal push - I forced myself to vomit for my eating disorder, it did not come easily to me. Do not mix up the body and brain signals.

The caffeine dissolved in contact with the most minute amount of moisture - they melted in my sweaty hands - and the taste was quite bitter. Once all 200 pills were swallowed, I sliced my thighs up for fun - shallow cuts, not intending to die from them - just to admire the blood and out of curiosity to spot any difference to usual due to the aspirin thinning my blood. I distinctly recall it looked like paint and that I was impressed with the pattern I drew on myself.

I then attempted to slit my wrists with a pencil sharpener blade. This required more force than I anticipated, and the small, rather dull blade kept getting stuck in my flesh. I was tired mentally and did not have the energy needed to succeed at this - just wanted to take something and fall away into nothingness, not have to put in effort, blah. Eventually, I gave up hope that I would bleed out. A wave of nausea unlike anything I have ever felt before overtook me. Though I tried, I was unable to resist. I partially missed the toilet but no matter. I hoped there were still enough pills in my stomach to do the job. Perhaps at this point there were.

I turned out the light and prepared to die from myocardial infarction. My heart rate was beginning to speed up. If I closed my eyes, flashes of light - akin to a pulsating galaxy - popped into my field of vision. I desperately wanted to lose consciousness and be dead already, but the flashing light and my pounding heart kept me stuck conscious. Yet the heart attack never came. At some point the sweating was no longer on my attention. I forget if I actually stopped sweating or only stopped paying attention to it. I expected to - but did not feel - alert. However, caffeine at normal doses does not affect me the way it does most people; I get only a mild head buzz rather than a true stimulation or sense of awakeness.

I laid down in the fetal position and vomited uncontrollably again shortly thereafter. Lying on the linoleum tiling, I became cold. I haphazardly put on my hat, socks, and clothes (I had been wearing only underthings). The cuts on my wrists stopped bleeding before I fell asleep - they were crusting over when I put my clothes on. I awoke to a bald man shining a flashlight in my eyes and asking me had I taken the entire contents of the empty pill bottles and did I drink anything.

Third lesson - don't wear anything you like. My clothes were ruined with vomit - even if they hadn't been, upon arrival the medics stripped me naked. I never found out where my clothes went - found out later they were tossed in a drawer, became mouldy, and had to be discarded. It's unfortunate. I was quite fond of that hat.

The practical lessons from my story end here - recounting the aftermath will only upset me. You can imagine it well enough yourself if you have any experience with psychiatry or the mental 'health''care' 'profession'. I put all the apostrophes because it is a bloody fucking joke. Pun intended - I self harmed more during 'treatment' than at any other point in my life.

I know that regardless of what others may tell you, you will make your choice. Although I may not agree with it, I respect that it is your choice to make. But I implore you, learn from my mistakes. Do not be like me.
Knowing me, I will definitely mess this up so I'm leaning more towards hanging right now but just in case I will keep caffeine OD in my mind. Thank you for your comment it's really informative
 
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myopybyproxy

flickerbeat \\ gibberish-noise
Dec 18, 2021
864
If you were determined to die from overstimulation, I would go with methamphetamine. More potent than caffeine, so you need to consume less of it. Can be taken other than oral ROA, thus avoiding the possibility of failure as a result of vomiting the active dose. If sufficient quantity is taken and you know you won't be found for a few hours, it can be fatal, especially if combined with poor hydration and nutrition prior. I imagine if taken with a substance that reduces the body's ability to sweat - ie, a hypohidrotic - would be even more effective as the body has nowhere to release the toxins.

This seems incredibly painful and a rather drawn out way to go. If you can get meth anyway you can probably access superior methods. Superior being my opinion, although one which seems to be widely held.

I recall there was a case in the news where US border agents forced a boy to drink the 'apple juice' he was carrying - knowing what it was - and he ended up dying of a meth OD. Don't think they suffered any consequences from that. Bastards.
 
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CrestfallenMima

CrestfallenMima

Staring into the abyss
Dec 28, 2021
160
I have only seen this method described as extremely painful.

If you choose an extraordinarily painful method, SI will be even more difficult, even impossible to overcome in most cases. You must possess and iron will and a pain tolerance that goes beyond the limit of the types of physical pain that are endured in daily life. Most people will not be able to handle it.
What if I did it while intoxicated, do you know if it will make this or other methods any easier?
 
UpandDownPrincess

UpandDownPrincess

Elementalist
Dec 31, 2019
833
What if I did it while intoxicated, do you know if it will make this or other methods any easier?
Adding alcohol to most methods just increasing the chance of vomiting, which usually means a poorer chance of death.

On exception is opiate od, where the alcohol can potentiate - but still increase the risk of vomiting.

There was a fairly recent posting of someone who drank too much while trying to use CO. The vomiting made the whole plan unworkable.
 
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CrestfallenMima

Staring into the abyss
Dec 28, 2021
160
If you were determined to die from overstimulation, I would go with methamphetamine. More potent than caffeine, so you need to consume less of it. Can be taken other than oral ROA, thus avoiding the possibility of failure as a result of vomiting the active dose. If sufficient quantity is taken and you know you won't be found for a few hours, it can be fatal, especially if combined with poor hydration and nutrition prior. I imagine if taken with a substance that reduces the body's ability to sweat - ie, a hypohidrotic - would be even more effective as the body has nowhere to release the toxins.

This seems incredibly painful and a rather drawn out way to go. If you can get meth anyway you can probably access superior methods. Superior being my opinion, although one which seems to be widely held.

I recall there was a case in the news where US border agents forced a boy to drink the 'apple juice' he was carrying - knowing what it was - and he ended up dying of a meth OD. Don't think they suffered any consequences from that. Bastards.
It does seem like a better method to caffeine OD. But I do live in the UK so there's no way I'm getting my hands on meth.
 
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myopybyproxy

flickerbeat \\ gibberish-noise
Dec 18, 2021
864
It does seem like a better method to caffeine OD. But I do live in the UK so there's no way I'm getting my hands on meth.
Nah, meth is like the fentanyl of stimulants. Cheaper per potency unit so it is dumped into everything that's meant to have a stimulating effect. It will likely be in your speed, crack, coke, Adderall and Ritalin, ecstasy and MDMA etc. There will also likely be ephedrine and caffeine in those. As well as miscellaneous other active and inactive substances. But even if you do get your hands on something sold as actual meth, it will likely still be a mixture of things.

With an unregulated market, all bets are off. Three cheers for the war on (people who use) drugs.
 
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