Method What methods do you NOT recommend and why?

[Donewith_]

May I ask you to rephrase that? Are you asking or telling me? To be clear, I was speaking my opinion in general terms.

If asking, you nor I are ever going to live long enough to address every single possible combination and outcome. If you want hard data, that information is already available to you on this site, and elsewhere.

Mate, I am not trying to pick on you. Well, I thought you have some reference about their non-reliability.My method is amitriptyline Cocktail, i don't want it to fail, I want to check all the possible factors that might go wrong. So ,.Was asking you.

 

[Help_Me]

Ok, this might sound obvious, but I won't recommend all cliche methods seen on TV and mass media :
1. Cutting veins. This is the most recognizable one (and most useless). You will shed a lot of blood for nothing and wake up in hospital with 99% chance. There is a chance scars won't heal soon, and all people around thinking you're mental. Also, people always mistaken this method with self-harm. People who slice their skin do not intend to ctb. They are just mentally ill (I am one of them) and have some unbearable problems.

2. Jumping from height. The possibility of staying alive and being unable to move scares the sh*t out of me.

3. Strong medical supplies with alcohol. You will get poisoned most likely, someone can easily call the ambulance and you will be sent to hospital for stomach pump

 

[onewayroad]

Other people have said it too but jumping would be the last thing I'd choose. Even if you're jumping out of a plane there's still a chance that you'll live for minutes or hours smashed to bits with your insides on the outside.

Yeah no thanks.

 

[Trashcan]

Anything you're not comfortable with. A lot of people on here promote their own method and think everyone should do it, but the methods aren't one-size-fits-all. It's great for you that you got N, but not everyone is comfortable with that method. Or whatever your method is.

 

[Retched]

Anything you're not comfortable with. A lot of people on here promote their own method and think everyone should do it, but the methods aren't one-size-fits-all. It's great for you that you got N, but not everyone is comfortable with that method. Or whatever your method is.

I'd be comfortable with N or exit bags. The problem is the ordering of N and the hiding of exit bag/tank. I've ordered SN, but don't know if I will have the guts to take it or not, as I read more, the more painful it becomes. Every method is painful in some way or another.

 

[gingerplum]

A chemist here listing painless chemical methods suggested a caffeine OD to induce a heart attack. Yeah, no. I can't believe anyone would use "heart attack" and "painless" in the same sentence.

Edit: Heart racing, nearly pounding out of your chest, shaking all over, until you're distracted by the panic of crushing chest pain and vomiting from the myocardial infarction. I know they were only trying to be helpful, but that was downright irresponsible.

 

[Arak]

Benedryl OD:. Because I had one and lost tons of hair for a year. Could have been worse but I went to Emergency Care.
Any OTC OD: they are unreliable and gruesome deaths if left alive
Street-drug OD: never know the strength you get
Jumping off cliff/plane/hang-gliding/building: know too many who survived and are severely injured. Did lots of research for my own crippling injuries, and these were the people who had ones like mine and worse (barring car wrecks).
Crashing cars: see above
Ligature compression: failed myself 2x. Think it is too hard manually to do--literally hurts--and uncertain of reliability
Guns: You have to hit the right spot and deal with kickback, which is hard, from experience at shooting ranges
Detergent suicide/lethal chemical concoctions: very dangerous to others including up to 1/2 mi away and not altogether reliable. Can be prosecuted as terrorist in some countries. Can be left with bad side effects.
Slitting wrists/other veins: hard to do w/o extreme force and medical training/knowledge. Even then, veins/arteries retract, so you may hesitate even w/ knowledge based on pain

Basically, there are risks to every method. None are that reliable. These are the ones off the top of my head. I could argue against all methods if asked because some will work for somebody and fail for most others.

My comments: jumping can be good, as long as you jump from at least 150 metres, land on a hard surface and above all: do not land on your feet !

I think that guns can be good (see statistics), as long as you have an at least medium calibre bullet, hit the brain stem and manage the recoil.

I guess there are no good methods.

 

[TiredHorse]

I think that guns can be good (see statistics), as long as you have an at least medium calibre bullet, hit the brain stem and manage the recoil.

The recoil comes after the shot --at which point you'll (theoretically) be dead and beyond caring. The only critical componants of using a gun to ctb (once you own it and the ammo) are conducive setting, correct shot placement, and the strength/dexterity to pull the trigger.

But it can be difficult/complex/expensive to acquire a gun, which --even setting aside aesthetic concerns-- makes the method less than ideal.

As Trashcan says, there's no one-size-fits-all solution, and what is ideal for one person is impossible for another.

 

[longingforrelease]

I'll start with the method I posted here. Shallow water blackout. If you want to dig deep in the thread list, you can read about how it failed me.

It's a natural phenomenon that can happen to anybody, but in reality, it's extremely hard to pull off intentionally. I made it sound easy, and it's not. I would delete that thread if I could. I don't want to be the reason somebody becomes a vegetable because I told them about SWB. I would rank SWB very low on the list of methods you should consider. Both for difficulty to pull off, and the dangerous consequences of failure.

Hi Ben, I don't know if you remember me, but we discussed this method a while ago. I had been leaning toward a scuba related death, because I need it to look accidental. But from what I learned from you and then others, SWB became my intended method. I see now you speak against it, and I appreciate your having done so. But that does complicate things for me. Would you mind if I sent you DM about this?
Sorry things didn't go as planned, friend.
b

 

[stargazer]

Self-immolation someone said already, and I would add drain cleaner, detergent, laundry liquids, chemicals, petrol, diesel basically that sort of stuff. I wouldn't want to ingest. And I wouldn't bother with aerosols.

 

[iamaditto]

Cutting your wrist.

It's way too painful with a high chance of failure.

This method is usually attempted on impulse. Because it's freaking easy to cut yourself, no need for any preparation.

Don't do it, please.

What if I have high pain tolerance, plan it out, and frequently cut myself pretty deep? I know this method is pretty terrible but it's tempting because I already have the blades and everything.

 

[TiredHorse]

What if I have high pain tolerance, plan it out, and frequently cut myself pretty deep? I know this method is pretty terrible but it's tempting because I already have the blades and everything.

If you really truly want to exsanguinate, use a bigger artery, like the femoral or brachial. The radial isn't reliably big enough.

 

[Comatose11]

Anything you're uncomfortable with. Say for example you don't like N because it's expensive and you think it getting through customs is too risky. Then don't use N. If you don't like hanging because you're too worried about suffocate, don't use hanging.

 

[AveryConure]

From personal experience, never ever OD unless you're doing the Amy cocktail, have a shitload of benzo's and narcotics to use, or you're okay with putting a needle in yourself to OD on heroin. Fentanyl also works but it's hard as balls to get unless you're basically already dying from cancer.

 

[meowcat]

It seems you need hundreds of pills to get the job done. That many pills can be hard and expensive to aquire. That's why od on pull can leave you in bad shape and really sick. Its a miserable way to be. I am trying myself to get the cocktail just right. The ones in the resource section seem reliable enough but the meds listed are hard to get and outdated. Sigh I'm looking for amitriptyline myself now. If I had 200 Valium I'd take them lol

I'm fairly optimistic that these pills can be bought OTC in some third world countries like Mexico.

 

[stellabelle]

Diphenhydramine overdose. It is absolutely miserable and excruciatingly painful. I survived a near fatal OD and it was awful. Heart starts pounding like it's going to fall out of your chest, stomach hurts so badly, seizures begin, and you can barely breathe while still conscious.

 

[MsM3talGamer]

Avoid anything to do with vehicles, especially trains as I've seen too many horror stories. OTC ODs are not recommended either due to rarely working and can leave you with damaged organs. If hanging make sure it's with a rope that won't snap. If jumping make sure that there's nothing and no one to land on below.

One of the major factors to bear in mind is: whatever method one chooses, do it away from other people. Otherwise you're likely to be found and "saved" by a dipshit pro-lifer whatever horrible condition you're in.

 

[Wannadie]

Right, Partial is the one that comes to mind for me, or at least I would make people aware that unless you have the balls to just drop and not back out even disregarding discomfort, then it's not going to be as simple as most people describe unfortunately. Seems a LOT of people here have tested and attempted partial and decided they would rather wait months to obtain something more peaceful and I think that says something.

I get your point but still 3 out of 4 people I know who actually died this way died by partial hanging. The 4th one with helium. It's a hard method because you're so aware of blacking out and it's so easy to just put your feet under you again but if you manage to get past that it's super effective at least

On topic: Tylenol and similar drugs od and slicing your wrists

 

[Toenditall]

cutting wrists ive tried it like 10 years ago its realy hard to cut deep enough

 

[bigj75]

Caffeine overdose

 

[John Smith]

Don't jump off anything unless you can properly fly on the way down, learnt that one the hard way.
Personally even when bonkers enough to jump i could only do it if no one would see me splat, same goes for trains, yes i'd do it, but i can't be the cause of someone else's suffering so its a no go for me.

I used to want a nice way where i could just go to sleep, but after waking up in icu a few times feeling even shitter for having taken a bed needed by someone who did want to live, i have defaulted back to my thoughts as a nipper (when i jumped) that i don't really care anymore about the method as such, as long as I'm dead at the end then thats all that matters, a little or a lot of suffering along the way to me is now irreverent verses the pain both physical & mental cause me. Strangly spending the last 26yrs swallowing vast amounts of prescribed morphine isn't as much fun as it sounds....Well some of it was fun at least lol

You've jumped before? How high? And what was hard about properly flying down?

 

[Letmego. Please]

Well i was a little bit mad at the time & being held in a city i didn't know, i only found out later that they had planning rule that stated no building could be taller than the cathedral, so my wonky brain thought 50ft would do it, after all i had heard of plenty of peeps that had died falling off a ladder, turns out its not about the hight so much as how you hit the ground, sadly i didn't fly as such, just got royally scuppered by gravity and the pavement.

So no not a good idea on my part & there is nothing high enough, not even jumping out a plane & 'forgetting' to open the parachute that would guarantee completely to me that i wouldn't still be alive after i hit the ground.

 

[Mljonzy]

Overdosing on meds or legal drugs is the worst way i think, it has a very very low success rate and it kills you in a brutal way most of the time. I know a guy that tried overdosing on over the counter drugs, he was rushed to hospital after he couldn't stop throwing up and had to have an emergency liver transplant. Now he is chronically sick.

 

[John Smith]

Well i was a little bit mad at the time & being held in a city i didn't know, i only found out later that they had planning rule that stated no building could be taller than the cathedral, so my wonky brain thought 50ft would do it, after all i had heard of plenty of peeps that had died falling off a ladder, turns out its not about the hight so much as how you hit the ground, sadly i didn't fly as such, just got royally scuppered by gravity and the pavement.

So no not a good idea on my part & there is nothing high enough, not even jumping out a plane & 'forgetting' to open the parachute that would guarantee completely to me that i wouldn't still be alive after i hit the ground.

Did you land on your head?

 

[Letmego. Please]

Sadly no or i'd be dead by now lol i had the misfortune to land on my feet, crushing both feet & ankles and then 4 or so crush fractures of the spine, bit of an ouch that...

 

[therhydler]

Sadly no or i'd be dead by now lol i had the misfortune to land on my feet, crushing both feet & ankles and then 4 or so crush fractures of the spine, bit of an ouch that...

Shit that sounds terrible I'm really sorry that happened

 

[Jiva]

Choking by a plastic bag. I tried it and it was the most scariest experience in my life. Slow choking by this method makes me big panic. I don´t want try it never more.

 

[iwantttogo]

but is there really anything that hard about partial suspension on its own? it seems all the stories here of people backing out are just that, people who back out. if they didnt back out, there isnt anything suggesting it wouldnt go well. the other things like people saying they layed there for hours but never passed out is obviously because they aren't hitting the right spot. so maybe it takes a bit of shifting around to find that spot but once you do whats the issue? how more peaceful can you get if you're unconscious

Right, Partial is the one that comes to mind for me, or at least I would make people aware that unless you have the balls to just drop and not back out even disregarding discomfort, then it's not going to be as simple as most people describe unfortunately. Seems a LOT of people here have tested and attempted partial and decided they would rather wait months to obtain something more peaceful and I think that says something.

think some of the cocktails that contain benzos aren't actually bad though, just that a large benzo dose is a good way to sedate yourself for hours on end, great for the cocktails where the method of death isn't very peaceful.

 

[John Smith]

Sadly no or i'd be dead by now lol i had the misfortune to land on my feet, crushing both feet & ankles and then 4 or so crush fractures of the spine, bit of an ouch that...

did you try to land on your head and it just didn't work out or what happened?

 

[Letmego. Please]

Shit that sounds terrible I'm really sorry that happened

Thank you, it was as they say kinda life changing, its mostly daft things like 'how the hell do people just roll over in bed?' that baffle me now. And as i say to anyone looking sorry for me in my £3500 super light & bloody fun downhill set of wheels....Yeah but it takes me years to get through a pair of shoes...