Yuina
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- Apr 13, 2024
- 89
In an ideal world, love. Not just romantic love, but love of any kind. Unfortunately, we do not live in an ideal world. Money happens to stand above all in the real world it seems.
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EvisceratedJester
|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
- Oct 21, 2023
- 1,586
The general well-being of others. Money is the root of a lot of problems in our world and is generally treated as something that stands above all else. I do think that things would improve significantly if the well-being of others was prioritized instead. The fact that we've gotten to the point where colourful pieces of paper and polymer that only symbolize value are valued over everything else is just sad.
While eliminating money wouldn't necessarily do much to keep people from finding other ways to try and keep oppressive hierarchical structures in place, especially those who benefit from it (though even some people who don't benefit from them still seem to advocate for them, which is a whole other conversation to have), I do fantasize a lot about a world without money where the well-being of others and our surroundings is instead prioritized. Sadly, the world that dream of is too idealistic to ever come true, but even then we should still be working to try and strive for something better than whatever this shit is.
While eliminating money wouldn't necessarily do much to keep people from finding other ways to try and keep oppressive hierarchical structures in place, especially those who benefit from it (though even some people who don't benefit from them still seem to advocate for them, which is a whole other conversation to have), I do fantasize a lot about a world without money where the well-being of others and our surroundings is instead prioritized. Sadly, the world that dream of is too idealistic to ever come true, but even then we should still be working to try and strive for something better than whatever this shit is.
In the human world, sure- money is what we use to differentiate power. I suppose because we are the current ruling species, money does make the world go round.
It means less to other species and natural forces. A jellyfish wouldn't be able to do much with a lottery win. A new coronavirus couldn't be bribed. The sun doesn't have a coin meter. Money won't make enough difference surely to a massive meteor heading for the earth. If we manage to make enough species extinct, it will start to impact us. I've read that life can't be sustained without insects for example:
Jonas Salk is often quoted as saying "If all the insects were to disappear from the Earth, within fifty years all life on Earth would end. If all human beings disappeared from the Earth, within fifty years all forms of life would flourish."
It means less to other species and natural forces. A jellyfish wouldn't be able to do much with a lottery win. A new coronavirus couldn't be bribed. The sun doesn't have a coin meter. Money won't make enough difference surely to a massive meteor heading for the earth. If we manage to make enough species extinct, it will start to impact us. I've read that life can't be sustained without insects for example:
Jonas Salk is often quoted as saying "If all the insects were to disappear from the Earth, within fifty years all life on Earth would end. If all human beings disappeared from the Earth, within fifty years all forms of life would flourish."
That's a funny comparison :).
Dr Iron Arc
Into the Unknown
- Feb 10, 2020
- 19,820
Waiting for the future for that to happen means money is still Time's slave. For now. Although even if eventually time becomes some form of currency, that's only for humans. Money will also only last for as long as civilization does yet time will still March on until the heat death of the universe or however it's going to end. Nothing money can do about that either.
Andro_USYD
Artificially happy on medicine
- Jul 1, 2023
- 135
Money is an instrumental good to acquire other things. Intrinsic goods (which are good in themselves) include knowledge, pleasure/happiness, freedom, love, health, & a lot of what everyone else has mentioned. I try not to pursue instrumental goods, and just focus on knowledge, after my bachelor's I'm going to do a Master's and stay at my uni for many more years to come (I hope). In Australia you can get a HECs debt so basically do any course you want and you only have to pay it back after you earn above a certain income. + The government gives me an allowance fortnightly. I'm really thankful to be in this country and my heart goes out to people that are unable to go to college because of financial issues. It feels like true freedom here.
LastFlowers
the haru that can read
- Apr 27, 2019
- 2,169
Any other form of currency or privilege (like beauty, intelligence, etc)ā¦which leads to things like status, power and freedom- or more opportunities to achieve any (or all of them).
Acceptance would be another goal, of which 'love' would reasonably follow.
Pluto
Meowing to go out
- Dec 27, 2020
- 3,555
ijustwishtodie
death will be my ultimate bliss
- Oct 29, 2023
- 3,251
If the US and its allies's hegemony is threatened, nothing can save you, not even money. Why the fuck does a fascist piece of shit dictator and his family get to clear the street of my town just so he can pass in front of my house, smiling like the disgusting fascist dictator he is with his fascist family under the protection of a military-like police state appartaus? Because the US and its allies deemed him especially fine to serve their interests.
pthnrdnojvsc
Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
- Aug 12, 2019
- 1,976
What will make other things easier or unnecessary?
What will Skip over and avoid all suffering, pain , problems? Suicide asap
Money can make many other things easier but it can't avoid cancer, dementia old age , accidents, scams, lies pain, problems . Only suicide asap will do that imo
To me suicide asap > money.
Because if I kill myself I won't need money.
Money is important in getting a reliable suicide plan and suicide method ready to go. Without money very difficult to suicide
All of these and more are important but if I kill myself the others become irrelevant . I have to worry about all these and more while I'm alive and ranking them , trying to maximize these. But all that is very difficult and requires a lot of work
Suicide > money > suicide ability and means >health > freedom sleep>knowledge> time . Goals Consistency , work , effectiveness getting nthe right things done, time management also important. Reprogramming your brain also ....
What will Skip over and avoid all suffering, pain , problems? Suicide asap
Money can make many other things easier but it can't avoid cancer, dementia old age , accidents, scams, lies pain, problems . Only suicide asap will do that imo
To me suicide asap > money.
Because if I kill myself I won't need money.
Money is important in getting a reliable suicide plan and suicide method ready to go. Without money very difficult to suicide
All of these and more are important but if I kill myself the others become irrelevant . I have to worry about all these and more while I'm alive and ranking them , trying to maximize these. But all that is very difficult and requires a lot of work
Suicide > money > suicide ability and means >health > freedom sleep>knowledge> time . Goals Consistency , work , effectiveness getting nthe right things done, time management also important. Reprogramming your brain also ....
Havnis
XXXX'ed out š²š²š²š²
- May 15, 2024
- 167
ARW3N
Melancholia
- Dec 25, 2019
- 381
What is above money? I think it became obvious to everyone what is above money when they saw the late Queen Elizabeth II's gold crown set with 2,868 diamonds, 17 sapphires, 11 emeralds, 269 pearls and 4 rubies lying on top of her coffin. Death is above money.
Food and shelter? Love and security? People literally give their money away voluntarily for a lot of things!
Earning money and trading it is just the easiest way to obtain many things. When you have the essentials secured, the value of money drop quickly.
Only desperately poor or misguided people kill for money. The same applies to your other examples, to varying degrees.
People who have what they need rarely give up their health or family, to obtain money.
There's even a high interest in self-siffiency, bypassing the need for money altogether.
DarkRange55
Enlightened
- Oct 15, 2023
- 1,324
immutable, inescapable forces that are above money? Time, yes, but entropy is only inescapable in closed systems.
In the grand block-omniverse, time is an illusion (and entropy is a statistical measure of state density).
But you provided the context of money, so I answered from a human-experience perspective.
Pretty much everything is above money. Money are only important for people who have nothing else to look at. And I can afford to say this because I am dirt poor but I was not always dirt poor so I know the value of money quite well. Only people who are worthless value money above all else. The question however makes me laugh and I didnt know I still could laugh.
