Discussion What if my own CTB leads to a underage CTB

[PanaxMan]

My younger brother has been struggling with depression for 8 years now.
He's 16 and that's sad if he does
I will eventually ctb, sure but what if my title became true.I would feel awful
What could happen? Sometimes I feel like I should ctb with him... he goes thru stages like he has bpd. (he doesn't) what can I do
At least, I'm not like him. but we all grew up mentally abused (still am) as we headed into our teenage years, they stopped physically doing it because it had no effect on us anymore. I feel like I get PTSD from those memories and sometimes I get them in my nightmares

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Once you're gone it's not your responsibility. It's logic that you are worried about what happens bc you r a human and we are social creatures. Your death will have impacts on your family and friends that's the ever unsolvable problem. Either you suffer for many more decades or your family / relatives will suffer and grief only for some time and eventually go on with their lives and learn how to deal with the fact. But obviously your brother has severe MH issues that also make him suicidal.

Really a very tough and complex situation your are trapped in. May I ask why you want to CTB?

I don't think there is a solution to that problem without causing suffering and pain on each side. I'm sorry you have to go through this.

 

[PanaxMan]

Once you're gone it's not your responsibility. It's logic that you are worried about what happens bc you r a human and we are social creatures. Your death will have impacts on your family and friends that's the ever unsolvable problem. Either you suffer for many more decades or your family / relatives will suffer and grief only for some time and eventually go on with their lives and learn how to deal with the fact. But obviously your brother has severe MH issues that also make him suicidal.

Really a very tough and complex situation your are trapped in. May I ask why you want to CTB?

I don't think there is a solution to that problem without causing suffering and pain on each side. I'm sorry you have to go through this.

Thanks, well I guess that solve that really. It makes alot of sense.

Once you're gone it's not your responsibility. It's logic that you are worried about what happens bc you r a human and we are social creatures. Your death will have impacts on your family and friends that's the ever unsolvable problem. Either you suffer for many more decades or your family / relatives will suffer and grief only for some time and eventually go on with their lives and learn how to deal with the fact. But obviously your brother has severe MH issues that also make him suicidal.

Really a very tough and complex situation your are trapped in. May I ask why you want to CTB?

I don't think there is a solution to that problem without causing suffering and pain on each side. I'm sorry you have to go through this.

Well

1. Lonely (can get jacked, can do all of that. but I would still feel empty as I was that person before)
2. nearly $40,000 in debt
3. PTSD from my disgusting childhood
4. PTSD took over my highschool career and ended my chances of being a star student
5. PTSD from the haunting memories by being treated like a slave
6. Parents on getting good grades, for school, making connections with people, with 0 time with myself. Claimed I never helped them when without me and my siblings we would be in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt

 

[Lifeaffirmingchoice]

Thanks, well I guess that solve that really. It makes alot of sense.

Well

1. Lonely (can get jacked, can do all of that. but I would still feel empty as I was that person before)
2. nearly $40,000 in debt
3. PTSD from my disgusting childhood
4. PTSD took over my highschool career and ended my chances of being a star student
5. PTSD from the haunting memories by being treated like a slave
6. Parents on getting good grades, for school, making connections with people, with 0 time with myself. Claimed I never helped them when without me and my siblings we would be in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt

That's a lot. I hope you find relief soon. IMO it will not affect your brother that much in terms of prompting him to ctb. You deserve relief from your pain.

 

[AllMyDreams]

Thanks, well I guess that solve that really. It makes alot of sense.

Well

1. Lonely (can get jacked, can do all of that. but I would still feel empty as I was that person before)
2. nearly $40,000 in debt
3. PTSD from my disgusting childhood
4. PTSD took over my highschool career and ended my chances of being a star student
5. PTSD from the haunting memories by being treated like a slave
6. Parents on getting good grades, for school, making connections with people, with 0 time with myself. Claimed I never helped them when without me and my siblings we would be in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt

That's awful your childhood was like that, I'm so sorry. Have you/your brother tried therapy for PTSD? I would try it before CTBing (it might well help). There are many people in your situation whether from traumatic childhoods or the military (including on this forum).

It is your decision and if you truly have tried everything and don't see another way out it is your right to CTB. But the fact that you're so considerate about your brother tells me your parents tried to but didn't completely destroy you. Re. the debt do you have a career/path of study that can help pay it off?

 

[needthebus]

My younger brother has been struggling with depression for 8 years now.
He's 16 and that's sad if he does
I will eventually ctb, sure but what if my title became true.I would feel awful
What could happen? Sometimes I feel like I should ctb with him... he goes thru stages like he has bpd. (he doesn't) what can I do
At least, I'm not like him. but we all grew up mentally abused (still am) as we headed into our teenage years, they stopped physically doing it because it had no effect on us anymore. I feel like I get PTSD from those memories and sometimes I get them in my nightmares

i almost killed myself a long time ago

my closest friend was struggling doing this incredibly hard first job, he was barely getting through it

i felt like if i ended things, he wouldn't be okay and might not make it through the job, which was a hard job he struggled to get, that was a very prestigious job, he was in agony

i didn't kill myself, he did make it through the job, and he ended up doing really well. I am glad I didn't do it then, and it was SO fucking hard, and I did meds and crying and being miserable, and I'll probably end up dying of suicide anyway at some point, but he got through that year possibly because I refused to just end it and he ended up doing well

Yes, you can wait until he's not 16 and is in a less abusive situation and is doing a bit better. Yes, he may end up having a much better life if you don't end it when he's 16.

Try doing a support group for children of emotional abusers or something like that to just keep going and have a support system. There's probably stuff out there.

People often change a lot between 16 and early 20s once they have a job and have more control over their life. He may stop being depressed once he gets out of his teens. Don't do it now.

Be tough, do the right thing and wait at least a few years