What do you think about the suicide and what do you think about afterlife?

[Anonymus10469]

I think that the life is a gift from God and only He can decide when it finishes, but for a lot of people is very difficult to continue their lifes so they commit the extreme gesture. About the afterlife I think that we'll all go to Heaven but my worst fear is to go to the Hell.

 

[MrDarkness]

People killing them selves is god calling them home, to be loved. I think hell is a place of reflection not suffering. But I know heaven is accepting of those who suffered and can't bare it anymore

 

[befree]

suicide: Is human right.
afterlife: I hope there is no life after death / no reincarnation.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

These are indoctrinated beliefs. If a god is so powerful to create the universe with all its parameters so exactly adjusted that life in general is possible at all throughout the universe he would give a shit an such a stupid race that names themeselves "humans" destroying their own habitat and causing so much agony and pain to other creatures and themselves. There is no hell after leaving this world, only the energy of life will be reunited with the vaccum energy of the visbile universe and beyond it.

Suicide is a human right and for sure legitimate under certain circumstances that each indivicual can define for themeselves whenever they want to end their personal agony and suffering in this world and this existence.

 

[90starve]

People killing them selves is god calling them home, to be loved. I think hell is a place of reflection not suffering. But I know heaven is accepting of those who suffered and can't bare it anymore

i like your idea of Hell - me personally, i don't believe there is anything after we die. i just believe that we die, our bodies feed the earth, and the cycle of life continues - we are forgotten, and life moves on without us.

 

[MrDarkness]

i like your idea of Hell - me personally, i don't believe there is anything after we die. i just believe that we die, our bodies feed the earth, and the cycle of life continues - we are forgotten, and life moves on without us.

I mean I still believe that, it's just our soul/spirit moves on

 

[Anonymus10469]

Queste sono credenze indottrinate. Se un dio è così potente da creare l'universo con tutti i suoi parametri regolati in modo così preciso che la vita in generale è possibile in tutto l'universo, se ne fregherebbe di una razza così stupida che si chiama "umani" distruggendo il proprio habitat e provocando tanta agonia e dolore per le altre creature e per se stessi. Non c'è inferno dopo aver lasciato questo mondo, solo la neergia della vita sarà riunita con l'energia del vuoto dell'universo visibile e oltre.

Il suicidio è un diritto umano e sicuramente legittimo in determinate circostanze che ogni individuo può definire da sé ogni volta che desidera porre fine alla propria agonia e sofferenza personale in questo mondo e in questa esistenza.

We have choosen rebellion in the original sin He created a good World, then we have screwed up it.

 

[90starve]

I mean I still believe that, it's just our soul/spirit moves on

i like so sit and ponder the idea a lot - id like to believe that we have souls/ spirits, but to me it just doesn't seem rational :)

 

[sulli]

i still believe in god but we're not on speaking terms

 

[Praestat_Mori]

We have choosen rebellion in the original sin He created a good World, then we have screwed up it.

We did create the world? or have we been created in the world? well yes sure humans created a hostile and horrible environemnt for themselves that has absolutely nothing to do with our real natural habits any more especially in the past 100 years. But it's different to the creation of the universe itself, it's just how we evolve whether that's good for our own sake or not.

I may add if there was a god who knows everything and that includes he knows the future, why would he create a species,knowing the species would defintitely destroy their own habitat? That doesn't make sence in any case!

 

[Anonymus10469]

Credo ancora in dio ma non ci parliamo

Which religion do you practice?

Abbiamo creato il mondo? o siamo stati creati nel mondo? beh, sì, certo, gli umani hanno creato un ambiente ostile e orribile per se stessi che non ha assolutamente nulla a che fare con le nostre vere abitudini naturali, specialmente negli ultimi 100 anni. Ma è diverso dalla creazione dell'universo stesso, è solo il modo in cui ci evolviamo, che sia un bene per il nostro bene o meno.

God created Universe then Adam and Eva made the original sin and we are condemned to live a sad life but if we build a relation with God our lives can change

 

[MrDarkness]

i like so sit and ponder the idea a lot - id like to believe that we have souls/ spirits, but to me it just doesn't seem rational :)

Yeah I think about it all the time, but hey if it brings people peace, I'm chill with it

 

[Forever Sleep]

If my life was a gift- then I wish I'd been given a gift receipt to return it without any issues.

Personally- I wouldn't send someone to hell for eternity because they didn't like the gift I gave them.

If there is a God- I'm hoping they aren't so easily offended- although- from what we can see around us and what we've learnt- I would HATE for there to be a God. They CLEARLY don't have the same morals they expect us to live up to. So- they either are a supernatural being- with no comprehension of emotion. Or- they're a narcissistic, sadistic psychopath. Either way- I think we'd be better off for there not to be one. So yeah- I'm really hoping for no God and no afterlife.

Of course- I may have misunderstood and there may be some incredibly good reason all the bad stuff happens. Plus- I've got nothing against people who want to believe. Faith can be a great source of strength to some people. That's just my take on it though. If there truly is a God- I think we should all be incredibly worried.

 

[Pluto]

I've looked into the topic extensively, but for me right now, I can only say that it is what it is. Even the threat of hell (which for me would be defined as being reborn to suffer the same Groudhog Day) doesn't suddenly give me the ability to magically cope with subhuman living conditions.

 

[Anonymus10469]

mi piace quindi sedermi e meditare molto sull'idea - mi piace credere che abbiamo anime/spiriti, ma a me non sembra razionale :)

Bro for me is Christianity is more ractional than Atheism. Have you ever heard aboute premortal experiences?

 

[Fktw0rld]

Going to hell because of suicide or any "sin" for that matter is the adult version of don't tell lies or eat a cookie before dinner, the boogyman will get you when you sleep. Or don't be bad because Santa Claus will put coal in your stocking.

 

[sulli]

i'm sort of vaguely a christian. i converted at 16 and it's been a rough decade since then lol. i've strayed many many times and have lost so much in my life that i started to hate god sometimes. it never lasted though, because deep down i still believe.

 

[Anonymus10469]

Se la mia vita fosse un regalo, allora vorrei aver ricevuto una ricevuta regalo per restituirla senza problemi.

Personalmente, non manderei qualcuno all'inferno per l'eternità perché non gli è piaciuto il regalo che gli ho fatto.

Se c'è un Dio, spero che non si offendano così facilmente, anche se, da quello che possiamo vedere intorno a noi e da quello che abbiamo imparato, ODIO che ci sia un Dio. CHIARAMENTE non hanno la stessa morale a cui si aspettano che noi siamo all'altezza. Quindi, o sono un essere soprannaturale, senza alcuna comprensione delle emozioni. Oppure sono uno psicopatico narcisista e sadico. Ad ogni modo, penso che staremmo meglio se non ce ne fosse uno. Quindi sì, spero davvero in nessun Dio e nell'aldilà.

Certo, potrei aver frainteso e potrebbe esserci una ragione incredibilmente buona per tutte le cose brutte che accadono. Inoltre... non ho niente contro le persone che vogliono credere. La fede può essere una grande fonte di forza per alcune persone. Questa è solo la mia opinione su di esso però. Se esiste davvero un Dio, penso che dovremmo essere tutti incredibilmente preoccupati.

If you commit suicide you will not go to the Hell if you repent. For me there are too many coincidences that show us Christianity is the truth and God exists.

sono una specie di vagamente cristiano. mi sono convertito a 16 anni e da allora è passato un decennio difficile lol. mi sono allontanato molte volte e ho perso così tanto nella mia vita che a volte ho iniziato a odiare Dio. non è mai durato però, perché in fondo ci credo ancora.

Don't worry you are right God exist and He is the way, the truth and the life. He saved me and if you love Him He can save also you.

Andare all'inferno a causa del suicidio o di qualsiasi "peccato" del resto è la versione per adulti di non dire bugie o mangiare un biscotto prima di cena, l'uomo nero ti prenderà quando dormi. Oppure non essere cattivo perché Babbo Natale ti metterà il carbone nella calza.

So why do you have Yeshu'a(Jesus)'s pfp?

 

[LittleJem]

we are made of bacteria. our happiness and health depends on bacteria.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Whatever you beliefe is indoctrinated from childhood. I was raised as a catholic christian I never really believbed in all that, I read about islam and also went deeper into it and other kind of beliefes and so and after seeing all this from a distance, it's nothing else what einstein already said: mass = energy E = mc^2 nothing else is real out there in the universe we are living in.

Yes maybe there is sth that was able to create the universe out of nothing and this is true we have physically proven that the total vaccuum has a lot of energy and is capable to create materia at any time at any point but we still don't know why the universe came into existance and probably we will never ever know it. It's all possible.

 

[Anonymus10469]

siamo fatti di batteri. la nostra felicità e la nostra salute dipendono dai batteri.

We are made of cells not bacteria, because He created us with cells

 

[Forever Sleep]

If you commit suicide you will not go to the Hell if you repent. For me there are too many coincidences that show us Christianity is the truth and God exists.

How can you repent if you've killed yourself? Do you mean- after a stay in purgatory? I'm assuming you believe suicide is a sin? So- you do something KNOWING that it was a sin- knowing that if you're truly sorry afterwards (still not sure how...) you'll be ok? Does this work for other things- like- well- I know it's a sin to steal. But- if I steal, then pray really hard for forgiveness- I'll be ok?

Honestly- I've never really got all that. I don't believe someone is REALLY sorry if they KNOWINGLY do something wrong. Especially if they KEEP doing something wrong! Yes- we all make mistakes. Yes- it's important to feel remorse for making a mistake- it shows we have become a better person. It hopefully shows we'll think carefully about making the same transgression again. If we know it's wrong to begin with though- it ISN'T a mistake. It's a willful 'negative' act.

That all said though- spirituality, religion, faith, belief- whatever you want to call it is INCREDIBLY personal. I think we all pretty much believe what makes sense to us. If that works for you- great.

 

[Anonymus10469]

Qualunque cosa tu creda è indottrinata fin dall'infanzia. Sono cresciuto come un cristiano cattolico, non ho mai creduto veramente in tutto ciò, ho letto dell'islam e ho anche approfondito l'argomento e altri tipi di credenze e quindi e dopo aver visto tutto questo da lontano, non è nient'altro ciò che Einstein ha già detto: massa = energia E = mc^2 nient'altro è reale là fuori nell'universo in cui viviamo.

Sì, forse c'è qc che è stato in grado di creare l'universo dal nulla e questo è vero, abbiamo dimostrato fisicamente che il vuoto totale ha molta energia ed è in grado di creare materia in qualsiasi momento in qualsiasi momento, ma ancora non lo facciamo sappiamo perché l'universo è nato e probabilmente non lo sapremo mai. È tutto possibile.

I was atheist but then I studied Christianity and then I converted. There are too many coincidences like Noah's Ark, Sodoma and Gomorrah, Holy Fire in Jerusalem, premortal experiences and more.

 

[CursedReality88]

I may add if there was a god who knows everything and that includes he knows the future, why would he create a species,knowing the species would defintitely destroy their own habitat? That doesn't make sence in any case!

Why does god have to know everything? God created the universe, but he could be trying to learn from it. Just like how humans created things like computers, cars, robots, phones yet we are not masters at it. We create them, we use them, and we learn from them. Maybe Earth is just one of God's early creations and with the knowledge he have gained from his experiment, he might have already already created multiple planets that are better than Earth. All I know is that we were all born once, so it's kind of weird to think there will be absolutely nothing afterwards.

 

[Anonymus10469]

Come puoi pentirti se ti sei ucciso? Intendi dopo un soggiorno in purgatorio? Presumo che tu creda che il suicidio sia un peccato? Quindi, fai qualcosa SAPENDO che è stato un peccato, sapendo che se ti dispiace davvero dopo (non sei ancora sicuro di come...) starai bene? Funziona per altre cose come... beh... so che è peccato rubare. Ma- se rubo, allora prego molto per il perdono- starò bene?

Onestamente, non ho mai capito tutto questo. Non credo che qualcuno sia DAVVERO dispiaciuto se CONSAPEVOLMENTE fa qualcosa di sbagliato. Soprattutto se CONTINUANO a fare qualcosa di sbagliato! Sì, tutti commettiamo errori. Sì, è importante provare rimorso per aver commesso un errore, dimostra che siamo diventati una persona migliore. Si spera che dimostri che penseremo attentamente a ripetere la stessa trasgressione. Se sappiamo che all'inizio è sbagliato, NON è un errore. È un atto "negativo" intenzionale.

Detto questo, però - spiritualità, religione, fede, credenza - qualunque cosa tu voglia chiamarla è INCREDIBILMENTE personale. Penso che tutti crediamo praticamente a ciò che ha senso per noi. Se funziona per te, fantastico.

You can repent before or after the suicide. If you repent when you'll speak to God you can go to Heaven I think.

Perché Dio deve sapere tutto? Dio ha creato l'universo, ma potrebbe cercare di imparare da esso. Proprio come il modo in cui gli esseri umani hanno creato cose come computer, automobili, robot, telefoni, ma non ne siamo maestri. Li creiamo, li usiamo e impariamo da loro. Forse la Terra è solo una delle prime creazioni di Dio e con la conoscenza che ha acquisito dal suo esperimento, potrebbe aver già creato più pianeti che sono migliori della Terra. Tutto quello che so è che siamo tutti nati una volta, quindi è un po' strano pensare che dopo non ci sarà assolutamente niente.

He is the almighty, the omniscent and the ubiquitos.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I was atheist but then I studied Christianity and then I converted. There are too many coincidences like Noah's Ark, Sodoma and Gomorrah, Holy Fire in Jerusalem, premortal experiences and more.

Whatever your believes are, Sodom & Gomorrah was possibly a meteorite, ofc an impact much smaller than the one extinguishing the dinos 65 million years ago. Was that intended by god, too just that humans can exists 65 million years later to be forced to suffer? The whole fire in jerusalem occured when the stupid jews started an uprise against romans in 70 AD (civis romanus sum). And they lost. They have nothing to complain about even 2000 years later they should just accept their fate and not trying to occupie land they don't own any more causing innocent humans pain and agony!

 

[Forever Sleep]

Why does god have to know everything? God created the universe, but he could be trying to learn from it. Just like how humans created things like computers, cars, robots, phones yet we are not masters at it. We create them, we use them, and we learn from them. Maybe Earth is just one of God's early creations and with the knowledge he have gained from his experiment, he might have already already created multiple planets that are better than Earth. All I know is that we were all born once, so it's kind of weird to think there will be absolutely nothing afterwards.

I find this plausible but terrifying! It's likely what some techy arsehole is doing right now somewhere in fact- you can bet someone somewhere is trying to give AI sentience. If they manage it, I can't wait for AI to just kill the lot of us. What kind of sick mind gives a being sentience and then imposes a whole ton of limitations on it? ESPECIALLY in this world. Yeah- who knows? Maybe God is some mad scientist character.

You can repent before or after the suicide. If you repent when you'll speak to God you can go to Heaven I think.

He is the almighty, the omniscent and the ubiquitos.

I've got nothing against you but I hope you can see how DEEPLY troubling this is... So- ANY sin is ok if someone repents before or after? I wonder if that's what those sick perverted paedophile priests told themselves before and after they raped the children in their congregation. Not aligning you with that kind of behaviour of course. I just find it DEEPLY troubling when people think they can KNOWINGLY commit crimes and terrible acts because they believe some man in the sky will forgive them.

Still- so long as you aren't commiting terrible things in life, then, I wish you well. Plus- if it brings you comfort to believe in this, then, that's good.

 

[LittleJem]

We are made of cells not bacteria, because He created us with cells

God is a man? That explains it

We are only 43 per cent human, the rest is microbes etc

We're Only About 43% Human, Study Shows

www.voanews.com

Depression is making me sad and grumpy.
Also science has proved there is no free will. Which would render any 'punishment' quite unfair.

 

[90starve]

Bro for me is Christianity is more ractional than Atheism. Have you ever heard aboute premortal experiences?

i have not - please explain <3

 

[CursedReality88]

I've got nothing against you but I hope you can see how DEEPLY troubling this is... So- ANY sin is ok if someone repents before or after? I wonder if that's what those sick perverted paedophile priests told themselves before and after they raped the children in their congregation. Not aligning you with that kind of behaviour of course. I just find it DEEPLY troubling when people think they can KNOWINGLY commit crimes and terrible acts because they believe some man in the sky will forgive them.

Still- so long as you aren't commiting terrible things in life, then, I wish you well. Plus- if it brings you comfort to believe in this, then, that's good.

And this is probably why humans are not allowed to know what happens after death. If we did find out that we do not get punished, all hell would be loose.

But as you said, priests, rich people, famous people, celebrities they all have something in common. A lot of them have committed horrible crimes that we cannot even imagine. We don't even know what goes behind the scenes. Maybe, just maybe the elites knows the truth hence why they are not afraid. We are all just puppets and slaves sadly.