What do you think about the suicide and what do you think about afterlife?

[Anonymus10469]

Lo trovo plausibile ma terrificante! È probabile che uno stronzo tecnico stia facendo proprio ora da qualche parte in effetti: puoi scommettere che qualcuno da qualche parte sta cercando di dare sensibilità all'IA. Se ci riescono, non vedo l'ora che l'intelligenza artificiale ci uccida tutti quanti. Che tipo di mente malata rende senziente un essere e poi gli impone un sacco di limitazioni? SOPRATTUTTO in questo mondo. Sì, chi lo sa? Forse Dio è un personaggio da scienziato pazzo.


Non ho niente contro di te, ma spero che tu possa vedere quanto sia PROFONDAMENTE preoccupante questo... Quindi- QUALSIASI peccato va bene se qualcuno si pente prima o dopo? Mi chiedo se sia quello che si dicevano quei preti pedofili malati e pervertiti prima e dopo aver violentato i bambini nella loro congregazione. Ovviamente non allineandoti a quel tipo di comportamento. Trovo solo PROFONDAMENTE preoccupante quando le persone pensano di poter commettere CONSAPEVOLMENTE crimini e atti terribili perché credono che un uomo nel cielo li perdonerà.

Tuttavia, finché non commetterai cose terribili nella vita, allora ti auguro ogni bene. Inoltre, se ti dà conforto credere in questo, allora va bene.

(This answer is in italian so use google translate) Se fai un peccato dicendo "tanto Dio mi perdonerà" allora non conta perché devi pentirti sinceramente.

 

[Forever Sleep]

(This answer is in italian so use google translate) Se fai un peccato dicendo "tanto Dio mi perdonerà" allora non conta perché devi pentirti sinceramente.

Wow- I love Italian. Everything sounds so much better... That's my point though- if you know it's 'evil' or 'wrong' to begin with- I just don't see how you can SINCERELY repent. You surely wouldn't have done it to begin with if you were that gooder person? Surely that's what religion is about- striving to be a good person? How can you KNOWINGLY lapse and KNOWINGLY repent at the same time? Just seems a bit strange to me.

I guess you can hope that God will have mercy. That you knew something was wrong when you did it but you didn't have the strength to fight it and you just hope they'll understand. That's the closest I get to understanding it. Still- like I say, I'm just hoping there's nothing.

 

[Fktw0rld]

If you commit suicide you will not go to the Hell if you repent. For me there are too many coincidences that show us Christianity is the truth and God exists.

Don't worry you are right God exist and He is the way, the truth and the life. He saved me and if you love Him He can save also you.

So why do you have Yeshu'a(Jesus)'s pfp?

Because I believe in Jesus. I believe he is the son of God. I believe in his teachings. I believe that he died on the cross for us. I belive he resurrected on the 3rd day and I've been studying scriptures for over 40 years. I believe, as it was written, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Simple as that.

What I don't believe in is the altered scripture of Constantine and the first council of Nicea. Or the manipulation of modern day churches and their brainless surface level followers, especially the catholic church. Purgatory, hell and all the colorful stories created to keep people obedient and funding their need for power and relevance.

 

[Anonymus10469]

Wow, adoro l'italiano. Tutto suona molto meglio ... Questo è il mio punto però - se sai che è "cattivo" o "sbagliato" per cominciare - non vedo come puoi pentirti SINCERAMENTE. Sicuramente non l'avresti fatto all'inizio se fossi stata quella persona più buona? Sicuramente è di questo che si occupa la religione: sforzarsi di essere una brava persona? Come puoi consapevolmente cadere e consapevolmente pentirti allo stesso tempo? Mi sembra solo un po' strano.

Immagino che tu possa sperare che Dio avrà misericordia. Che sapevi che qualcosa non andava quando l'hai fatto ma non avevi la forza di combatterlo e speri solo che capiscano. Questo è il massimo che riesco a capirlo. Tuttavia, come ho detto, spero solo che non ci sia niente.

Spesso i peccati lo commettiamo inconsapevolmente o pensando che siano gravi e dunque in quel momento non ci pensiamo, ma dopo averli commessi (almeno è quello che succede a me) ci sentiamo straziati e schifosi, ma se Dio ci perdona saremo sollevati. Grazie a Dio io ora non provo più paura e sono molto felice pensando alla bellezza del creato.

Perché credo in Gesù. Credo che sia il figlio di Dio. Credo nei suoi insegnamenti. Credo che sia morto sulla croce per noi. Credo che sia risorto il 3° giorno e studio le scritture da oltre 40 anni. Credo, come è stato scritto, se confesserai con la tua bocca che Gesù è il Signore e crederai con il tuo cuore che Dio lo ha risuscitato dai morti, sarai salvato. Semplice come quella.

Quello in cui non credo è la scrittura alterata di Costantino e il primo concilio di Nicea. O la manipolazione delle chiese moderne e dei loro superficiali seguaci senza cervello, in particolare la chiesa cattolica. Purgatorio, inferno e tutte le storie colorate create per mantenere le persone obbedienti e finanziare il loro bisogno di potere e rilevanza.

I agree but the task of the Church is to give an interpretation of the Bible to people

 

[Fktw0rld]

Spesso i peccati lo commettiamo inconsapevolmente o pensando che siano gravi e dunque in quel momento non ci pensiamo, ma dopo averli commessi (almeno è quello che succede a me) ci sentiamo straziati e schifosi, ma se Dio ci perdona saremo sollevati. Grazie a Dio io ora non provo più paura e sono molto felice pensando alla bellezza del creato.

I agree but the task of the Church is to give an interpretation of the Bible to people

Just like the task of our politicians and government is to take good care of us. And the task of prosecutors and judges is to seek the truth and make sure innocent people aren't falsely convicted. And the task of oncologists is to cure cancer patients.

Money and power is their king my friend. Someone who sits on a golden throne, surrounded by golden furnishings and sipping from a golden cup serves whom?

Remember, "no one can serve two masters."

 

[Forever Sleep]

Spesso i peccati lo commettiamo inconsapevolmente o pensando che siano gravi e dunque in quel momento non ci pensiamo, ma dopo averli commessi (almeno è quello che succede a me) ci sentiamo straziati e schifosi, ma se Dio ci perdona saremo sollevati. Grazie a Dio io ora non provo più paura e sono molto felice pensando alla bellezza del creato.

I agree but the task of the Church is to give an interpretation of the Bible to people

Yeah- but again- we're talking about commiting suicide knowing it's a sin- not in the heat of the moment... but anyway- I'm glad your faith brings you such happyness.

 

[Anonymus10469]

Proprio come il compito dei nostri politici e del nostro governo è prendersi cura di noi. E il compito di pubblici ministeri e giudici è cercare la verità e assicurarsi che persone innocenti non vengano condannate ingiustamente. E il compito degli oncologi è curare i malati di cancro.

Il denaro e il potere sono il loro re, amico mio. A chi serve qualcuno che siede su un trono d'oro, circondato da arredi d'oro e che sorseggia da una coppa d'oro?

Ricorda, "nessuno può servire due padroni".

Ok but suicide is an auto-omicide and it violate the commandements of God to Moses.

 

[angel31]

I am an atheist, and dont believe in an afterlife, and I believe that its good this way :)
And suicide is a human right, everyone can do with their own body what they want and killing themselves is one of them.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I am an atheist, and dont believe in an afterlife, and I believe that its good this way :)
And suicide is a human right, everyone can do with their own body what they want and killing themselves is one of them.

I Agree with that .

There is no soul , no afterlife no reincarnation

After death there is only non-existence forever. And that means no risk of pain or suffering forever : what can be better than that?

 

[Fktw0rld]

Ok but suicide is an auto-omicide and it violate the commandements of God to Moses.

I think you're reaching now. Our salvation rests securely in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross. That's really all their is to it. All the rest is just an attempt to control the population under the guise of greater good.

Do you genuinely believe in your heart? Do you confess with your mouth?

That's it. Attempting to dig any deeper than that is just a lack of faith. Have faith. Stop searching for reasons for faith not being good enough. The needle in the haystack is faith. The rest is just hay.

Btw, please don't take anything I'm saying as agressive. I'm enjoying your thread, as well as your opinion. I was at that stage in my 20s and 30s. Digging through the hay.

Love and respect

 

[5alvia]

I think suicide should be a human right but I also believe that the person committing the act should be aided by a medical/legal professional as to cancel out any suspicion of murder or coercion.

As for the afterlife? I don't believe in one personally.

 

[Fktw0rld]

Well damn! OP ct bus quick! Already got a line through their name. Must not have been worried about the afterlife after all.

 

[FuneralCry]

God or anything related to religion is simply a fictional concept designed to brainwash people, the reality is that existence is just a horrific and tragic mistake, there's no deeper meaning or purpose behind any of this, existence is just unnecessary suffering and senseless cruelty all for no reason.

Existence could never be a "gift", suggesting such a thing disgusts me, to have the ability to exist in this hellish reality is a curse to me, it's a result of replusive pronatalism where delusional humans lack awareness, continuing to procreate as a result of their selfishness. The afterlife is a fictional concept as, to die means to cease existing, leaving this world returns one back to the ideal state of permanent non-existence where they are finally free from everything and wishing for suicide will always be perfectly logical in this dreadful world, it's irrational wishing to delay the inevitable just to suffer more and more, none of us are obligated to wait for death.

 

[sulli]

Well damn! OP ct bus quick! Already got a line through their name. Must not have been worried about the afterlife after all.

they were very prolifey towards people in other threads so they weren't making many friends with that

 

[Fktw0rld]

they were very prolifey towards people in other threads so they weren't making many friends with that

Yeah I noticed that. And just joined yesterday, immediately trying to inject the possible threat of afterlife fairy tales. I think it took me a few months until I started my first thread. I had to read the room for a little bit first. Didn't wanna get that line through my name

 

[sulli]

Yeah I noticed that. And just joined yesterday, immediately trying to inject the possible threat of afterlife fairy tales. I think it took me a few months until I started my first thread. I had to read the room for a little bit first. Didn't wanna get that line through my name

i liked reading about your beliefs so at least one good thing came from all this nonsense i think i rather agree with you, though i've played the prodigal son for so long that i don't know anymore

 

[affinity]

And this is probably why humans are not allowed to know what happens after death. If we did find out that we do not get punished, all hell would be loose.

But as you said, priests, rich people, famous people, celebrities they all have something in common. A lot of them have committed horrible crimes that we cannot even imagine. We don't even know what goes behind the scenes. Maybe, just maybe the elites knows the truth hence why they are not afraid. We are all just puppets and slaves sadly.

It's either that or purely unadulterated arrogance/delusion or they simply don't believe in "God" and worship/tied to lesser entities. There are very few billionaires or celebs who give me the sense that they have a very close connection to religion. They're just getting theirs and not considering consequences bc they don't even believe that consequences apply to them on earth - let alone the afterlife.

I mean last week was a perfect example…billionaires paid $250K a head (one even brought their 19 yo) onto a death trap and fully expected to come back a-okay.