What do you guys think about the simulation hypothesis?

[iwanttodie019]

That our universe is a simulation run by an advanced civilization
and if that's true,then after death do we wake up in the reality aboove us?

 

[hurts2b]

If the world is a simulation that remains. Totally irrelevant. Because I can still suffer. And I can still experience bodily discomfort. And nothing about that changes whether or not I'm actually just a line of code.

I still need a warm place to sleep at night. I still need to free myself from poverty. I'm still mentally ill.

I don't see the point of speculating about the next reality when in this one... I can't meet my own needs.

 

[iwanttodie019]

If the world is a simulation that remains. Totally irrelevant. Because I can still suffer. And I can still experience bodily discomfort. And nothing about that changes whether or not I'm actually just a line of code.

I still need a warm place to sleep at night. I still need to free myself from poverty. I'm still mentally ill.

I don't see the point of speculating about the next reality when in this one... I can't meet my own needs.

after death,we wake up in the reality above us and then you u can ask them why they created a sim in the first place and why consciousness and suffering

 

[explosiveKai99]

That would just mean discovering god or gods. If somebody has such power to create entirety of our universe, or world, or whatever. I guess we could assume that our universe is not infinite then (to preserve computing power), but just obfuscates our knowledge.
But I don't like these computer analogies actually. If that's true it would be more mystical and our overlords so above our perception that we could never understand them.

But sometimes I fantasize that after death I come out of a weird salvia trip still holding the bong, and my shocked alien buddies ask worrily: you ok bro? You been there a while.

 

[iwanttodie019]

That would just mean discovering god or gods. If somebody has such power to create entirety of our universe, or world, or whatever. I guess we could assume that our universe is not infinite then (to preserve computing power), but just obfuscates our knowledge.
But I don't like these computer analogies actually. If that's true it would be more mystical and our overlords so above our perception that we could never understand them.

But sometimes I fantasize that after death I come out of a weird salvia trip still holding the bong, and my shocked alien buddies ask worrily: you ok bro? You been there a while.

The god also has gods since the reality above is may not be base reality

 

[anonymoususer278387]

I've "hallucinated". this world is definitely not the only world

-anon

 

[Set Real Goul]

There are two things I really don't like: nietzscheanism and this whole simulation thing, and they both drive me crazy. If we're living in a simulation, then there's no way we could ever know it, because it would be too perfect for us to detect, and we couldn't prove it. If we're living in a simulation, then all of our knowledge is false, so there's no point in trying to figure out what's outside the simulation. and even if it is true — so what if we're in a simulation? It's like descartes' demon, just messing with us for no reason, just to blow our minds

 

[limenlux]

There are two things I really don't like: nietzscheanism and this whole simulation thing, and they both drive me crazy. If we're living in a simulation, then there's no way we could ever know it, because it would be too perfect for us to detect, and we couldn't prove it. If we're living in a simulation, then all of our knowledge is false, so there's no point in trying to figure out what's outside the simulation. and even if it is true — so what if we're in a simulation? It's like descartes' demon, just messing with us for no reason, just to blow our minds

I was hopping in to add my own "so what/how would we know" to the thread, but I see you've already done so, and better. You even threw in some hostility toward Nietzsche for good measure!

I've tried desperately to understand this subject as it relates to Jean Baudrillard's Simulacres et Simulation, because I think there might be something fascinating there, but it's beyond my understanding.

I don't know if this is a true story, but I heard that the Wachowskis screened The Matrix for Baudrillard, as it references him and his work, and afterward Baudrillard commented that The Matrix was exactly the sort of film that the Matrix would create. That must have felt deflating.

 

[Set Real Goul]

I've tried desperately to understand this subject as it relates to Jean Baudrillard's Simulacres et Simulation, because I think there might be something fascinating there, but it's beyond my understanding.

In general, the problem with some philosophers is that they resemble if they aren't outright a form of literature, or better yet, poetry, which gives us a good description of some fragment of life, or simply a reason to think and look at something from another angle, along with some useful heuristic device. For example, Kierkegaard and his either/or, Nietzsche and ressentiment, Michel Foucault and the structures of ressentiment, Derrida and his deconstruction (sometimes referred to as a kind of linguistic weapon), and many others.

So perhaps there is simply nothing there to understand. Sometimes philosophical terms are kind of like horoscopes or, you know, all orange cats are stupid. You either see it or you don't. And it doesn't really provide you with an argument or anything practical

 

[Forever Sleep]

I struggle to follow the logic supporting this hypothesis. Similar to any kind of reincarnation or afterlife theory really. My question is- why create life in the first place? What is the end goal here?

With reincarnation or an afterlife, the goal seems to be to learn and better ourselves while on earth- to then be rewarded in heaven or, be able to escape the cycles of reincarnation. So- all of this crap is to 'win' a holiday? It just seems such an anticlimax- to me. You wouldn't study for a degree only to go on holiday- surely? You'd be learning that knoweledge/ those skills- to then apply them- surely? So- what do we apply all this mortal life experience/ knowledge to in an afterlife?

If it's a simulation then- our lives have some ulterior cause for being necessary. If we are a slave race then- we are providing some 'product' for those we are enslaved to. *Spoiler alert*, in the series 'The Matrix', it's body heat to power AI. I've also heard the theory that our captors are 'farming' our emotions.

I just wonder how efficient either of those practices are. If they need living bodies to create heat- why allow us to die at all? Why allow some people to be antinatilist? Why not put a stop to climate change and the risk of more pandemics? That is surely risking more and more people.

Other animals give off more heat than we do. So- why are we the dominant species? Why not pick cows for example?

I suppose one further question would be- were we created to be a slave race by our masters or, did they happen upon earth and then enslave its inhabitants? Does earth even exist? Did it exist and, now it only exists in simulation?

If our enslavers are feeding off of our emotions, I would think there would also be ways they could 'farm' more intensively. Wouldn't we just accept the reality we found ourselves in- if we knew nothing else?

Regardless though- if it is a simulation, there doesn't seem like there's much we can do about it. Similar to the idea of meeting God. Asides from asking what the hell they thought/ think they were/ are doing- in either scenario- we're powerless.

It will be utterly shit though- to find ourselves awake and once again- having to comform in a society we have next to no power to change for the expectations/ needs of others.