Method What are the downsides to SN?

[pfuxx1]

I hear all about the good, but nothing bad. Surely, it cant be a completely foolproof method. Or is it? I never heard of this stuff until I joined this site, and until just recently doing research I thought the only ways id be able to CTB personally is with a gun or insane mixture of illegal drugs. I've woken up from fentanyl and klonopin and alcohol mixture with no opi tolerance at all, but you can just order this shit on the clear web and its always lights out? Thats crazy to me. Like there's no restrictions on this shit? You'd think since its such a popular method to CTB, people are using it to murder people as well right? Idk its just crazy to me that you can buy something like that so easily
Im just skeptical, i just keep hearing about it on here so i know its a legit method, its just if its really that easy to just order some and that fatal i might just do it
And if you had to pick, would you choose SN or fentanyl/benzo/alc mix. Or both? I think my problem last attempt was i didnt take enough fet, but im sure i have access to enough fent and benzos to od now. I really want to shoot myself but idk if i can get a gun anytime soon if I have to OD i will fuck it.

 

[avaruus]

The most common side-effects seem to be somewhat heavy-ish nausea and anxiety, tho the latter might not be caused by the actual substance itself, just the situation in general.
I recommend reading the SN megathread for more detailed and accurate info



If you're interested, here is another good guide to SN

SN Bible Sodium Nitrite Method (Comprehensive Guide SN Method)

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[Meditation guide]

SN can cause in some people such painful stomachaches or headaches they call for help. SN is hard to get now in the U.S.

 

[day]

SN has a pretty lengthy shopping list to "pull it off" correctly.

Antiemetics are basically 100% required and even with them throwing up is likely.

The taste of SN is going to be horrendously salty.

SN takes a while to kill you it's not instant.

In the time you're waiting for the SN to kill you you'll experience some symptoms of ingesting it: Headache, tremors, palpitations, nausea, dizziness, anxiety, cold sweats, etc.

 

[DreamEnd]

There is a small risk of brain damage if you are saved too late. Idk how late but it's what I have read so far

 

[pfuxx1]

SN can cause in some people such painful stomachaches or headaches they call for help. SN is hard to get now in the U.S.

I just figured out the stuff on google will not make you CTB. I thought that was just way too easy and convenient to be true. Thats the way they were making it seem like. Im gonna probably stick to my og plans, im not about to be getting scammed on telegram and shit

SN has a pretty lengthy shopping list to "pull it off" correctly.

Antiemetics are basically 100% required and even with them throwing up is likely.

The taste of SN is going to be horrendously salty.

SN takes a while to kill you it's not instant.

In the time you're waiting for the SN to kill you you'll experience some symptoms of ingesting it: Headache, tremors, palpitations, nausea, dizziness, anxiety, cold sweats, etc.

Now that i know this, this doesnt sound like the way im trying to go. I want it to be lights out, either sleep peacefully with no worries or go out with a bang. i can get my hands on drugs easily and die in bliss, but sn im hearing is nearly impossibe to get right now and if its not quick i dont want it

 

[day]

Now that i know this, this doesnt sound like the way im trying to go. I want it to be lights out, either sleep peacefully with no worries or go out with a bang. i can get my hands on drugs easily and die in bliss, but sn im hearing is nearly impossibe to get right now and if its not quick i dont want it

Expect SN to take 20-45mins for unconsciousness if you plan on going that way. SN is easy to obtain depending on your countries regulations for the chemical.

 

[Minsu]

I'd say anxiety and the risk of failure since a lot of people vomit after they take it

 

[pfuxx1]

Expect SN to take 20-45mins for unconsciousness if you plan on going that way. SN is easy to obtain depending on your countries regulations for the chemical.

Im an American, ive talked to other americans on the site. They told me the type of SN you need is pretty much unobtainable unless you really go digging for it. Too many teens have CTB with it and it has caught media attention. Its still think its easier for me to get drugs than SN

 

[Talles]

The way I see it the biggest problem seems to be low availability of the method. SN is strictly controlled in many developed countries.
The side effects seem to be manageable, and honestly, drugs that would have less problems of the sort are probably harder to find unless you know someone.
If it was available I would definitely choose SN. OD'ing seems to have a greater number of variables that can influence success.

 

[pfuxx1]

The way I see it the biggest problem seems to be low availability of the method. SN is strictly controlled in many developed countries.
The side effects seem to be manageable, and honestly, drugs that would have less problems of the sort are probably harder to find unless you know someone.
If it was available I would definitely choose SN. OD'ing seems to have a greater number of variables that can influence success.

Thats what im not understanding. Whats the difference between the SN on Amazon and the SN that will kill you? Because its everywhere on amazon but If im correct, Amazon got sued for this a few years ago right? Something about suicide kits, in frequently bought items it would have SN, antienemtic, and instruction manual. They cant still be selling the same stuff right? Whats the catch?

Thats what im not understanding. Whats the difference between the SN on Amazon and the SN that will kill you? Because its everywhere on amazon but If im correct, Amazon got sued for this a few years ago right? Something about suicide kits, in frequently bought items it would have SN, antienemtic, and instruction manual. They cant still be selling the same stuff right? Whats the catch?

Sorry i sound dumb, but ive just been told thats atleast in the US, its not easy to get your hands on. But if you google "buy sodium nitrate", its everywhere and the first site that pops up is amazon. Its just not adding up to me.

 

[day]

Im an American, ive talked to other americans on the site. They told me the type of SN you need is pretty much unobtainable unless you really go digging for it. Too many teens have CTB with it and it has caught media attention. Its still think its easier for me to get drugs than SN

It's relatively easy to find on google I think people likely just don't know what they're looking for tbh.

 

[Talles]

One thing I realized is that if it is controlled in your country it will probably be off of Amazon.
My cousin moved to a country without such mechanisms and SN is available on Amazon quite cheaply.
Also, SN is Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate.

 

[pfuxx1]

One thing I realized is that if it is controlled in your country it will probably be off of Amazon.
My cousin moved to a country without such mechanisms and SN is available on Amazon quite cheaply.
Also, SN is Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate.

I think understand now. After doing research, in USA The Youth Poisoning Protection Act bans the sale of consumer products with a concentration of sodium nitrite greater than 10 percent. in June 2023. Looks like i might of missed out on the party, because i highly suspect that decision was made specifically related to the deaths of people who used this website. If i would of joined a little earlier it possible would of been a viable method, but at this point, you can be prosecuted for assisting in suicide if you are caught sending it, and amazon has been sued and ebay banned it in 2019. Whatever they're selling on here must be some sort of scam, or not be strong enough to CTB.

 

[DreamEnd]

I think understand now. After doing research, in USA The Youth Poisoning Protection Act bans the sale of consumer products with a concentration of sodium nitrite greater than 10 percent. in June 2023. Looks like i might of missed out on the party, because i highly suspect that decision was made specifically related to the deaths of people who used this website. If i would of joined a little earlier it possible would of been a viable method, but at this point, you can be prosecuted for assisting in suicide if you are caught sending it, and amazon has been sued and ebay banned it in 2019. Whatever they're selling on here must be some sort of scam, or not be strong enough to CTB.

they are still aavailable sources in the US and internationally if you are able to look deep enough

 

[heavyeyes]

I think understand now. After doing research, in USA The Youth Poisoning Protection Act bans the sale of consumer products with a concentration of sodium nitrite greater than 10 percent. in June 2023. Looks like i might of missed out on the party, because i highly suspect that decision was made specifically related to the deaths of people who used this website. If i would of joined a little earlier it possible would of been a viable method, but at this point, you can be prosecuted for assisting in suicide if you are caught sending it, and amazon has been sued and ebay banned it in 2019. Whatever they're selling on here must be some sort of scam, or not be strong enough to CTB.

From what I've seen the bill hasn't passed yet. It was introduced into Congress back in July. Nothing has moved forward yet https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/2233/text?s=1&r=15

It would ban the sale of sn to individuals but not businesses I believe. I'm not sure

 

[pfuxx1]

It's relatively easy to find on google I think people likely just don't know what they're looking for tbh.

they are still aavailable sources in the US and internationally if you are able to look deep enough

i dont trust any website, only place i could think to look is telegram vendors and you run a very high risk of getting scammed on that app. Especially with something like this, known for being used mainly for this purpose now and now being known to be hard to obtain. Seems like a hotbed for that because the people who are customers are desperate and in despair. I'm not trying to get scammed a million times by a bunch of people before i find the legit vendors.

 

[DreamEnd]

i dont trust any website, only place i could think to look is telegram vendors and you run a very high risk of getting scammed on that app. Especially with something like this, known for being used mainly for this purpose now and now being known to be hard to obtain. I'm not trying to get scammed a million times by a bunch of people before i find the legit vendors.

I feel like telegram vendors of SN are very rare and you are most likely to get scammed. This substance is legal in most countries and sourcing it through telegram may just be suspicious, idk. There are at least a couple verified sources on the clearweb last time I checked.

 

[pfuxx1]

From what I've seen the bill hasn't passed yet. It was introduced into Congress back in July. Nothing has moved forward yet https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/2233/text?s=1&r=15

It would ban the sale of sn to individuals but not businesses I believe. I'm not sure

It will though. and yes, im pretty sure just individuals. businesses can get their hands on all kinds of chemicals and drugs an individual cant.

I feel like telegram vendors of SN are very rare and you are most likely to get scammed. This substance is legal in most countries and sourcing it through telegram may just be suspicious, idk. There are at least a couple verified sources on the clearweb last time I checked.

Still, this stuff is just not easy to source anymore i believe, atleast in US. The compound is now associated with suicide, specifically with teenagers. Thats just not a good look. They really dont want people obtaining it anymore.

 

[heavyeyes]

It will though. and yes, im pretty sure just individuals. businesses can get their hands on all kinds of chemicals and drugs an individual cant.

Unfortunately yes it will pass but it hasn't yet. Stop spreading misinformation

 

[pfuxx1]

Unfortunately yes it will pass but it hasn't yet. Stop spreading misinformation

I might be depressed but im realistic

 

[betternever2havbeen]

Unfortunately yes it will pass but it hasn't yet. Stop spreading misinformation

Not that I'm even in the US but do you know how long that sort of thing takes to pass?

 

[heavyeyes]

Not that I'm even in the US but do you know how long that sort of thing takes to pass?

Not exactly sure but it could take many months. I'm guessing not much progress has been made because there are other more important bills that take priority over this one

 

[pfuxx1]

Not exactly sure but it could take many months. I'm guessing not much progress has been made because there are other more important bills that take priority over this one

I wanna believe it bro but i just cant see them bringing up teen suicide and not passing it, like i wanna believe you but just i cant see them overlooking it. like i said im messed up too but i know how normal people view CTB and its not in a good light

 

[heavyeyes]

I wanna believe it bro but i just cant see them bringing up teen suicide and not passing it, like i wanna believe you but just i cant see them overlooking it. like i said im messed up too but i know how normal people view CTB and its not in a good light

Bills take a while to pass regardless. That's how the process is. Right now it still has to go through the Senate and the House but there's still nothing scheduled for it yet

 

[color_me_gone]

SN and inert gas (exit bag) both work by hypoxia.
SN must >= 95% purity to work.
I think many suppliers have voluntarily either stopped selling SN,
or reduced the purity so low, as to be ineffective.

The same happened with helium inert gas for exit bag.
Many people were buying canisters of helium for filling balloons,
to use for exit bags.
When the suppliers found out, they mixed 25% air with the helium,
rendering the balloon canisters ineffective to ctb.

It is my own personal opinion that hypoxia is one of the most forgiving ways to ctb,
if you fail your attempt.

 

[Eudaimonic]

It is my own personal opinion that hypoxia is one of the most forgiving ways to ctb,
if you fail your attempt.

How is hypoxia one of the most forgiving ways? The brain is deprived of oxygen and accrues damage as a result.

 

[eve2004]

I'm too chicken to try but scoring F in any decent sized city is probably easier than finding SN these days. F or similar will always be my first choice.

 

[Meditation guide]

SN has a pretty lengthy shopping list to "pull it off" correctly.

Antiemetics are basically 100% required and even with them throwing up is likely.

The taste of SN is going to be horrendously salty.

SN takes a while to kill you it's not instant.

In the time you're waiting for the SN to kill you you'll experience some symptoms of ingesting it: Headache, tremors, palpitations, nausea, dizziness, anxiety, cold sweats, etc.

No antiemetics are not required at all. SN if it's pure kills in about 30 minutes. You will be unconscious in 15 minutes or less.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

And if you had to pick, would you choose SN or fentanyl/benzo/alc mix.

I don't consider SN for myself bc it will be very difficult for me to get the required meds, I don't like vomiting, I don't like nausea.
I'd prefer fent but ofc not street quality! With F I'd need help because I can't IV anything by myself.