Method Volunteering as a Ukraine Fighter

[0x64]

I was thinking of signing up to become a foreign fighter in Ukraine, hopefully die in combat and have a somewhat honerable death. Does anybody else have any thoughts on the idea?

 

[ctb_warrior]

I was thinking of signing up to become a foreign fighter in Ukraine and hopefully die in combat and have a somewhat honerable death. Does anybody else have any thoughts on the idea?

That's a crazy idea. Besides, it's not guaranteed that you'll end up dying. But if you have the vigour to do something like, go ahead and give it a try

 

[0x64]

That's a crazy idea. Besides, it's not guaranteed that you'll end up dying. But if you have the vigour to do something like, go ahead and give it a try

I'm filling out the application but no guarantee they'll accept me. Even if I don't die I'll have access to a firearm at least.

 

[ctb_warrior]

I'm filling out the application but no guarantee they'll accept me

I think if you really thinking of CTB, consider and weigh other methods on the site.

 

[0x64]

I think if you really thinking of CTB, consider and weigh other methods on the site.

Unfortunately the options are very limited due to SN being practically impossible to obtain and firearms being very restricted. I could be eligible for DWD but no family would agree and no money.

 

[ctb_warrior]

Unfortunately the options are very limited due to SN being practically impossible to obtain and firearms being very restricted. I could be eligible for DWD however no family would agree.

That's true. Most methods are difficult to execute. Ukraine fighter also doesn't guarantee that you'll get killed. You may just get injured heavily. So, that may be a much worse idea as on the ground supplies would be limited and ppl getting killed in front of the eyes.

 

[khora]

I was thinking of signing up to become a foreign fighter in Ukraine, hopefully die in combat and have a somewhat honerable death. Does anybody else have any thoughts on the idea?

Do it and if you don't want to work in the front lines attempt to become a drone pilot.
Forget a boring fucking suicide like the rest of these fucks, bring the suicide, fear, hatred and terror to your enemies with bullets, with your own hands..
It's a better life having at least had the courage to confront such fears most wouldn't of even dreamed of experiencing in such a life; don't expect to die too quickly either. You'll understand a different kind of beauty...
That's if you do get accepted and somehow survive.
If you're willing to go through with the training; willing to withstand against the tidal wave of combat and war in general you'll become someone you didn't know was even possible of existing.
Leave this life behind. It's definitely worth the shot. Good luck.

 

[unluckysadness]

Very bad idea. If you don't die, you may end up as a vegetable with severe injuries and no possibilities to ctb anymore. And don't forget : it's a war so they will ask you to kill people. I don't think it's what you want.

 

[itsgone2]

I was thinking of signing up to become a foreign fighter in Ukraine, hopefully die in combat and have a somewhat honerable death. Does anybody else have any thoughts on the idea?

You can do this?
What happens if you're selected?

 

[0x64]

Very bad idea. If you don't die, you may end up as a vegetable with severe injuries and no possibilities to ctb anymore. And don't forget : it's a war so they will ask you to kill people. I don't think it's what you want.

That's the downside I guess

You can do this?
What happens if you're selected?

I fight a foreign war and yess they do have foreign fighter volunteer website.

Do it and if you don't want to work in the front lines attempt to become a drone pilot.
Forget a boring fucking suicide like the rest of these fucks, bring the suicide, fear, hatred and terror to your enemies with bullets, with your own hands..
It's a better life having at least had the courage to confront such fears most wouldn't of even dreamed of experiencing in such a life; don't expect to die too quickly either. You'll understand a different kind of beauty...
That's if you do get accepted and somehow survive.
If you're willing to go through with the training; willing to withstand against the tidal wave of combat and war in general you'll become someone you didn't know was even possible of existing.
Leave this life behind. It's definitely worth the shot. Good luck.

Thanks.... But you could give me all the enrichments in life and I'd still be unhappy and in pain.

 

[khora]

That's the downside I guess

I fight a foreign war and yess they do have foreign fighter volunteer website.

Thanks.... But you could give me all the enrichments in life and I'd still be unhappy and in pain.

And yet here you are looking for something like everyone else, trying, fighting your own fight somehow; if that doesn't say something about you then what the fuck does? when you wish to see nothing but your heart keeps beating that's all you need. Nothing else. What is it to find reason? when you look for reason, when you aren't dead? it's a matter of questioning and that fire exists in your heart no matter what you do to take it out. As it will always be as is in you is in me.
And still, what happened on this earth remains as silent as it came, but you can see it a mile away in everyone's face, just returning to nothing but ashes again and again. You want to be seen? But are you really going to walk the extra mile to put up a real fight? Are you willing to bloodstain your hands and climb atop the bodies of everyone around you? Take your bite or die screaming. Everything's forgotten. So make your memories and burn.

 

[ctb_warrior]

And yet here you are looking for something like everyone else, trying, fighting your own fight somehow; if that doesn't say something about you then what the fuck does? when you wish to see nothing but your heart keeps beating that's all you need. Nothing else. What is it to find reason? when you look for reason, when you aren't dead? it's a matter of questioning and that fire exists in your heart no matter what you do to take it out. As it will always be as is in you is in me.
And still, what happened on this earth remains as silent as it came, but you can see it a mile away in everyone's face, just returning to nothing but ashes again and again. You want to be seen? But are you really going to walk the extra mile to put up a real fight? Are you willing to bloodstain your hands and climb atop the bodies of everyone around you? Take your bite or die screaming. Everything's forgotten. So make your memories and burn.

Being a fighter to die and being a fighter to be a fighter are two different things.
If he is just looking to be a fighter to end his suffering, what you are saying will not be valid in this case.
Yes if he wishes to be a fighter to transform into a fighter that's where your point makes sense.
On the other hand, wars do not kill the actual people behind the war. Wars kill innocent people most of the time. Ever heard Bush or Trump dying in a war? Not a coincidence for sure
If it was a freedom fight against the oppression, it would definitely make sense to become a fighter. But wars like these, where mostly innocent people who didn't sign up for this war get killed. Why to have bloodstain of innocent people on oneself?

 

[LastNite]

Dying to a drone is brutal. Watch combat footage before you go through with all of this. There is no going back.
Getting captured is also no good. They torture POW.

 

[0x64]

Dying to a drone is brutal. Watch combat footage before you go through with all of this. There is no going back.
Getting captured is also no good. They torture POW.

I've seen footage from both infantry and drones, it's not pleasant.

 

[explosiveKai99]

I was thinking about this a lot during sleepless nights withdrawing from alcohol.

Basically my line of thinking was I need some kind of purpose to throw my life away. Also camaraderie. Dying in a war seems better that dying from mental exhaustion under capitalism.
My family hates me, everybody spits on me. Maybe being a warrior gets some respect.

But it would also be breaking my non-violence principle. They give you a weapon and tell who to kill, you don't know nothing about them. This feels also incredibly dirty. Moral rules are rules. If every single soldier decline to participate on both sides, war would just stop. So from this point of view it becomes a moral issue.

From yet another point it seems like semi-philosophical problem, are you the one who eats others or are you prey being eaten? Maybe my problem is never taking action, never taking advantage of another guy and that's why I'm poor and a loser?

My family basically told me I'm too much of a pussy to join military, and even my side would be screaming at me, calling me weak just to get off. They say there is violence, your commander takes it out on you like in a dumb american movie.

Technical wise, I would need permission from my country's minister of defense, but it's probably a formality. Some clothes for the beginning, transport, nothing much.

I was thinking about it around February. And I'm still here, wasting my life. Fuck.

 

[0x64]

I was thinking about this a lot during sleepless nights withdrawing from alcohol.

Basically my line of thinking was I need some kind of purpose to throw my life away. Also camaraderie. Dying in a war seems better that dying from mental exhaustion under capitalism.
My family hates me, everybody spits on me. Maybe being a warrior gets some respect.

But it would also be breaking my non-violence principle. They give you a weapon and tell who to kill, you don't know nothing about them. This feels also incredibly dirty. Moral rules are rules. If every single soldier decline to participate on both sides, war would just stop. So from this point of view it becomes a moral issue.

From yet another point it seems like semi-philosophical problem, are you the one who eats others or are you prey being eaten? Maybe my problem is never taking action, never taking advantage of another guy and that's why I'm poor and a loser?

My family basically told me I'm too much of a pussy to join military, and even my side would be screaming at me, calling me weak just to get off. They say there is violence, your commander takes it out on you like in a dumb american movie.

Technical wise, I would need permission from my country's minister of defense, but it's probably a formality. Some clothes for the beginning, transport, nothing much.

I was thinking about it around February. And I'm still here, wasting my life. Fuck.

My family also hates me, and the same philosophical question do I really want to kill someone who doesn't want to be there, is suffering and has family back home who loves them?

It doesn't necessarily mean you have to kill someone if you take your life on the battlefield.

 

[ctb_warrior]

My family also hates me, and the same philosophical question do I really want to kill someone who doesn't want to be there, is suffering and has family back home who loves them?

It doesn't necessarily mean you have to kill someone if you take your life on the battlefield.

I guess when you are on the battlefield, the others will compel you to shoot your gun at the opposite side. So, even if you don't want to have bloodstain, they'll make it happen in some way or the other

 

[19-21-8-5-14-25]

This has made me think... Maybe I can finally become useful and actually a man.

 

[Set Real Goul]

I was thinking of signing up to become a foreign fighter in Ukraine, hopefully die in combat and have a somewhat honerable death. Does anybody else have any thoughts on the idea?

Dude, how honestly ready are you for ctb, and how risky do you think your behavior there is going to be? Because "hopefully die in combat" is a pretty bad motivation unless you're literally trying to get into valhalla. I'm just saying, if we're talking about your future comrades, your death could put them in a bad situation

You should think carefully about all of these things:
How motivated are you, or how depressed are you? I mean, are you high-functioning despite being depressed? What's your physical condition like?
Even though you'll go through BMT and specialized training, it's going to be very stressful.
What do you know about your unit? (you don't need to name it.) But if you don't know enough, you can ask about it on Threads or twitter and the soldiers there can give you some idea of what it's like (I'm serious).
Do you have any social problems? Because this is a place where you'll have to interact with a lot of other people, regardless of your specialty
And you need to be prepared to kill enemy soldiers, because they won't think twice about sparing you during an assault. My uncle got into a difficult situation when two of his comrades refused to fight and froze at the sound of gunfire. He managed to shoot two rus, while two others fled — he was lucky. If you're not prepared for something like that, you're putting not only yourself at risk, but also your comrades, who never agreed to take that risk on your behalf

I didn't mean to sound rude or make this feel like an interview, but these are all things worth taking into consideration

 

[0x64]

Dude, how honestly ready are you for ctb, and how risky do you think your behavior there is going to be? Because "hopefully die in combat" is a pretty bad motivation unless you're literally trying to get into valhalla. I'm just saying, if we're talking about your future comrades, your death could put them in a bad situation

You should think carefully about all of these things:
How motivated are you, or how depressed are you? I mean, are you high-functioning despite being depressed? What's your physical condition like?
Even though you'll go through BMT and specialized training, it's going to be very stressful.
What do you know about your unit? (you don't need to name it.) But if you don't know enough, you can ask about it on Threads or twitter and the soldiers there can give you some idea of what it's like (I'm serious).
Do you have any social problems? Because this is a place where you'll have to interact with a lot of other people, regardless of your specialty
And you need to be prepared to kill enemy soldiers, because they won't think twice about sparing you during an assault. My uncle got into a difficult situation when two of his comrades refused to fight and froze at the sound of gunfire. He managed to shoot two rus, while two others fled — he was lucky. If you're not prepared for something like that, you're putting not only yourself at risk, but also your comrades, who never agreed to take that risk on your behalf

I didn't mean to sound rude or make this feel like an interview, but these are all things worth taking into consideration

Your point of view is actually very helpful and making me re think the method. I understand your uncles point of view as a security contractor we've had life and death situations where colleagues have frozen or ran away and it's caused fatalities. I'm somewhat functional. I don't want to go out by a chance of taking the comrades with me.

 

[MaxStirner]

I was thinking of signing up to become a foreign fighter in Ukraine, hopefully die in combat and have a somewhat honerable death. Does anybody else have any thoughts on the idea?

Have you considered what using one of the most harrowing geopolitical events of the 21st Century, especially for Europe, as a method of suicide says about you and your ambitions?

I am not trying to discourage you from making any decision. I am asking why this would be considered an option on your behalf in the first place. You could research any method listed on this website. You also mentioned that you view this as an honorable death, which, for the fighters who have died for Ukraine, it absolutely is.

Is this really just an attempt at dying, or are you trying to make a choice that you view as having a lot of dignity behind it? If so, why do you feel like this is the way to go about having that dignity?

Let's also assume you're selected. You would be going to the front lines with people who are willing to make the final sacrifice for Ukraine. Would you be able to serve alongside individuals who went about this not with suicidal intent, but to answer a call that came because a foreign leader decided a sovereign nation should be under his control? I also think you haven't considered more of what this conflict means to people who are from this area in the world. Not just Ukraine, but neighboring countries and NATO members. I am not implying that the desire to serve militarily or to take one's own life is wrong. I believe in choice. But choices communicate intent.

So, really: what is your intent with this idea?

 

[0x64]

Have you considered what using one of the most harrowing geopolitical events of the 21st Century, especially for Europe, as a method of suicide says about you and your ambitions?

I am not trying to discourage you from making any decision. I am asking why this would be considered an option on your behalf in the first place. You could research any method listed on this website. You also mentioned that you view this as an honorable death, which, for the fighters who have died for Ukraine, it absolutely is.

Is this really just an attempt at dying, or are you trying to make a choice that you view as having a lot of dignity behind it? If so, why do you feel like this is the way to go about having that dignity?

Let's also assume you're selected. You would be going to the front lines with people who are willing to make the final sacrifice for Ukraine. Would you be able to serve alongside individuals who went about this not with suicidal intent, but to answer a call that came because a foreign leader decided a sovereign nation should be under his control? I also think you haven't considered more of what this conflict means to people who are from this area in the world. Not just Ukraine, but neighboring countries and NATO members. I am not implying that the desire to serve militarily or to take one's own life is wrong. I believe in choice. But choices communicate intent.

So, really: what is your intent with this idea?

I respond later in going out every few minutenatm

 

[Intoxicated]

But wars like these, where mostly innocent people who didn't sign up for this war get killed. Why to have bloodstain of innocent people on oneself?

Plain innocent Russians who are against the war are a relatively small minority of those who die from Ukrainian forces. Russian invaders consist mostly of very well paid killers who signed up a contract with the Ministry of Defense of Russia, which offers a lot of money to the hired men. Most of them joined the army under contract on a voluntary basis, although there are cases of coercion to conclude a contract. Some Russian soldiers are ex-prisoners who received a full pardon for their crimes and were released from jail in exchange for participation in the war. Some of them were imprisoned for grave crimes like murder or robbery with violence. There are known cases when such ex-prisoners committed new grave crimes after returning from the army, then they were put back in jail and hired by the Ministry of Defense again.

If it was a freedom fight against the oppression, it would definitely make sense to become a fighter. But wars like these, where mostly innocent people who didn't sign up for this war get killed. Why to have bloodstain of innocent people on oneself?

In fact, it is a freedom fight against the oppression. The actions of the Russian army are unambiguously qualified as unlawful aggression in accordance to the international conventions, as defined by General Assembly of the UN:

https://iilj.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/General-Assembly-Resolution-3314.pdf

(the relevant statements are declared in Article 1, Article 2, Article 3 paragraphs a, b, d, g, and Article 5); see also

UN General Assembly demands Russian Federation withdraw all military forces from the territory of Ukraine

On 2 March, the UN General Assembly adopted — by an overwhelming majority of 141 against 5 — a resolution rejecting the Russian Federation's brutal invasion of Ukraine and demanding that Russia immediately withdraw its forces and abide by international law. The resolution was prepared by the...

www.eeas.europa.eu

not to mention numerous war crimes committed by Russians against citizens of Ukraine.