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Iceangel

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This the moral to this story: if you really want to kill yourself go have sex one more time. If that doesn't help nothing will.
When I realized sex doesnt make me feel better anymore I realized this. Its so horrible something so amazing interests me so little now. Now the only time I have sex is when I want to be held so I at least dont feel totally alone in the world. Most of the time I cant even cum anymore :aw: i used to loveeee sex...
 
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When I realized sex doesnt make me feel better anymore I realized this. Its so horrible something so amazing interests me so little now. Now the only time I have sex is when I want to be held so I at least dont feel totally alone in the world. Most of the time I cant even cum anymore :aw: i used to loveeee sex...
Sounds like you need an aphrodisiac.
 
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Jean Améry

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When I realized sex doesnt make me feel better anymore I realized this. Its so horrible something so amazing interests me so little now. Now the only time I have sex is when I want to be held so I at least dont feel totally alone in the world. Most of the time I cant even cum anymore :aw: i used to loveeee sex...

That's sad, it really is. Especially the part about feeling you have to put out in order to experience intimacy. You should be able to get that without any strings attached. Hopefully your enjoyment of sex will come back at some point. Anhedonia or the inability to feel any joy is common in depression.

I'm sort of seeing a girl I like: what I want most at this point is for her to hug me but I don't know how to ask. It would probably not be very appropriate anyway.
 
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Iceangel

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Mar 9, 2019
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Sounds like you need an aphrodisiac.
Weed helps but ive grown quite a tolerance to it and im about to go dankrupt so thatll end soon too :(
That's sad, it really is. Especially the part about feeling you have to put out in order to experience intimacy. You should be able to get that without any strings attached. Hopefully your enjoyment of sex will come back at some point. Anhedonia or the inability to feel any joy is common in depression.

I'm sort of seeing a girl I like: what I want most at this point is for her to hug me but I don't know how to ask. It would probably not be very appropriate anyway.
Yeah i feel you, its easier to ask for sex than it is to ask someone to hug you just because you need it. Non sexual contact is far more intimate for me
 
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Jodes

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Nov 23, 2018
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I'm sorry to hear about your trauma but it doesn't give you the right to impose your moral views on people and try to guilt-trip them as if they are somehow responsible for your mental state.

Imagine we had to conform to everyone's moral views and make damn sure we didn't step on anyone's toes: free speech would not exist. Hell this forum would not exist.

What's next? Someone writes a story about having a great time drinking with friends and an alcoholic reacts snidely and insists the author is responsible for his desire to go binge-drinking again?

"But thanks for reinforcing my reasons to ctb. I do appreciate that."

This is totally unacceptable. Nobody here owes you anything and no-one here is responsible for your illogical reasoning (person X went to a hooker and had a good time, some guys think it's great he enjoyed himself therefore all men are not interested in a monogamous relationship and only want meaningless sex, ergo you'll always be alone) and your feelings getting hurt.

Aslong as they don't harm others people can do what they god damn well please. How can you hold the opposite view when you frequent a forum dedicated to discussing one of the gravest moral sins in society? Many people would take offence if they knew what was discussed here, especially those who lost people to suicide. By your logic they're right and we're wrong and we should shut the hell up and conform to society's moral standard.

The fact that GeorgeJL had some meaningless sex with a prostitute (well not even meaningless since it did lift his depression for a while) does not mean he wouldn't be faithful and respectful to a woman he decided to have a relationship with. He did in fact hint in his original post he'd rather have been with a woman he cared about and not some stranger. Yet that's not possible at the moment so he decided to have a good time with someone who agreed to go to bed with him in exchange for money. Who the hell cares? If you're suffering from depression or anything else that causes great pain and are thinking of suicide you're hurting deeply: anything that takes away some of that hurt and makes you enjoy yourself even if it's just for a while is great and should be applauded provided others didn't suffer for it.

Whether something was amiss legally depends on the legal system where it happened but morally I see no problem with this whatsoever as there clearly was no violence or coercion. Unlike in your case which is totally different: what that person did to you was highly immoral and completely wrong. I really am sorry that happened to you and the consequences it had and has on you but it has nothing to do with what you complain about here.

Like Meretlein wrote: sex between consenting adults (for whatever reason) is completely different from sexual violence which is both a crime and a moral barbarity. No-one has the right to violate another's body, no-one.

Men generally like sex and both men and women are sometimes promiscuous but that doesn't mean that both men and women don't want to find love and a deeply emotional and satisfying sexual life with another.

I for one would love to find my soulmate and live happily ever after with her (including great sex and to my experience sex with someone you love is always better than a one time fling) but I don't think there's anything wrong with people enjoying themselves sexually when not in a relationship. Conservative morality that seeks to impose thought control, constricting sexual morality (monogamy for one), blind conformity and group-think on people makes me want to puke. It's the main reason I strongly oppose psychiatric thought control and the suicide prohibition.

I only had two girlfriends and they were both dealing with severe mental issues (one tried to commit suicide frequently and slept around, the other cut herself and had anorexia) yet I loved them deeply, was faithful to them and had a lot of patience with their issues. Does that sound like a man who only cares about (casual) sex and is only interested in using women for his pleasure?

I take offence at your unjust characterisation (which you pulled out of thin air as you simply don't know me, nor GeorgeJL btw) and your attempt to make me and others feel guilty for something that is only wrong by your small-minded conservative moral standard (having/wanting casual sex with a consenting partner, be it prostitution or something else) and has no bearing whatsoever on you and your mental state. We are not responsible for how you feel.





Get off your high horse. Your comment is as misguided as the view of the person you reacted to: this thread has nothing to do with sexual abuse or abuse of any kind. At least she has the excuse of getting triggered by trauma. What's yours?

This truly is rich: some bloke frequenting a suicide forum judging others... This is only an 'issue' in your conservative world view (which would preclude suicide btw). Most people would say it's nobody's business what people do aslong as it's consensual.

I honestly fail to grasp how anyone can be pro choice when it comes to suicide yet dissaprove of how others choose to use their freedom even when it doesn't affect others negatively. Given that a suicide usually involves at least some grieving survivors it would make more logical sense to oppose suicide than it would be to condemn casual sex or prostitution.

The only 'issue' (psychobabble btw) here is you being judgemental.
My issue is EXTREMELY simple. Prostitution is extremely rarely above board and consensual, and your lack of clarification in your original post highlights some combination of ignorance or neglect to that fact. At the very least, by being ambiguous you're encouraging and showing acceptance of casual prostitution.
 
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Angst Filled Fuck Up

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I've never had any interest and have had easy access to sex by way of a partner pretty much all my life. But I've always been kind of on the fence about prostitution as a general topic. I think it's more or less okay if it's a mutual agreement and nobody was forced into it - and with the caveat that the sex worker has a good head on their shoulders and is safe/not using drugs or whatever. I guess the only qualm I would have in that instance is whether the work itself causes psychological harm to either party. I can't really say with any certainty whether it does or not, but I imagine it would in some cases.

Basically I'm ambivalent unless there's some element of dysfunction involved, then it's a solid no. Of course, some would argue that it's messed up by its vary nature. It's also still illegal in the vast majority of the US.
 
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I've never had any interest and have had easy access to sex by way of a partner pretty much all my life. But I've always been kind of on the fence about prostitution as a general topic. I think it's more or less okay if it's a mutual agreement and nobody was forced into it - and with the caveat that the sex worker has a good head on their shoulders and is safe/not using drugs or whatever. I guess the only qualm I would have in that instance is whether the work itself causes psychological harm to either party. I can't really say with any certainty whether it does or not, but I imagine it would in some cases.

Basically I'm ambivalent unless there's some element of dysfunction involved, then it's a solid no. Of course, some would argue that it's messed up by its vary nature. It's also still illegal in the vast majority of the US.
I think there are certain types of people who under absolutely professional conditions would be happy with entering prostitution. But if it's just for the money, that opens up problems. If absolutely any kind of vulnerability might be being exploited on either side, again, solid no. By no means a comprehensive list. But the current industry fucking stinks. No offense but the areas in the US where prostitution is legal still operates like a fucking joke. It should be meticulously professional.

Sorry, I think it's another angry day. FFSFML
 
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So the other day my friend wanted to go bang an escort. I didn't want to go because I was all depressed and shit. But he convinced me to go. I took some Viagra and some weed. Then when I was bagging her I asked her to ride on top of me. And OMG I was able to fully let go and surrender to the pleasure and I had the best orgasm of my life. It was so intense that I felt like I went to another dimension almost. Like a wave of pleasure came over my whole being. It was out of this world. I wish everyone could get the chance to experience that. Then my depression cleared up pretty fast after that. LOL I can only imagine how much better it would be if I did it with someone I really loved and cared about. Then me and my friend were in the car waiting to get sober and I kept cracking jokes here and there laughing my ass off.

I am not trying to be a white knight here. I am very much pro-choice when it comes to suicide. But at the same time I think if you can get the chance to let go and enjoy do it.

The only other experience that comes close was when I took 2c-b and 4-aco-dmt. I was in pure sublime bliss for hours, it was a magical mystical spiritual experience. And it's not addictive either. You can buy any of these things at dream marketplace.
Do you think orgasms can help in recovering from suicidal ideation ?
I've never had any interest and have had easy access to sex by way of a partner pretty much all my life. But I've always been kind of on the fence about prostitution as a general topic. I think it's more or less okay if it's a mutual agreement and nobody was forced into it - and with the caveat that the sex worker has a good head on their shoulders and is safe/not using drugs or whatever. I guess the only qualm I would have in that instance is whether the work itself causes psychological harm to either party. I can't really say with any certainty whether it does or not, but I imagine it would in some cases.

Basically I'm ambivalent unless there's some element of dysfunction involved, then it's a solid no. Of course, some would argue that it's messed up by its vary nature. It's also still illegal in the vast majority of the US.
Most sex workers are female so I am wondering, they probably do not orgasm during their work so do they ever have orgasms? what does everybody think?
 
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Final Escape

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Jul 8, 2018
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Do you think orgasms can help in recovering from suicidal ideation ?

Most sex workers are female so I am wondering, they probably do not orgasm during their work so do they ever have orgasms? what does everybody think?
I'm a sex worker and I do orgasm although mostly by choice. I won't with some people. Sometimes I just don't feel like it or I already did with a different guy earlier that day lol!
 
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kkatt

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Nov 12, 2018
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So the other day my friend wanted to go bang an escort. I didn't want to go because I was all depressed and shit. But he convinced me to go. I took some Viagra and some weed. Then when I was bagging her I asked her to ride on top of me. And OMG I was able to fully let go and surrender to the pleasure and I had the best orgasm of my life. It was so intense that I felt like I went to another dimension almost. Like a wave of pleasure came over my whole being. It was out of this world. I wish everyone could get the chance to experience that. Then my depression cleared up pretty fast after that. LOL I can only imagine how much better it would be if I did it with someone I really loved and cared about. Then me and my friend were in the car waiting to get sober and I kept cracking jokes here and there laughing my ass off.

I am not trying to be a white knight here. I am very much pro-choice when it comes to suicide. But at the same time I think if you can get the chance to let go and enjoy do it.

The only other experience that comes close was when I took 2c-b and 4-aco-dmt. I was in pure sublime bliss for hours, it was a magical mystical spiritual experience. And it's not addictive either. You can buy any of these things at dream marketplace.
I'm glad you found a moment of true happiness in your life.
BUT having been a sex worker in the past,I'd just like to point out that your choice of language is somewhat derogatory.
 
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Final Escape

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My issue is EXTREMELY simple. Prostitution is extremely rarely above board and consensual, and your lack of clarification in your original post highlights some combination of ignorance or neglect to that fact. At the very least, by being ambiguous you're encouraging and showing acceptance of casual prostitution.
Yea it's consensual but on the otherhand it's not. Sure the women are consenting but because they need the money or in some cases they had been forced into it. I was not forced into prostitution but untreated mental health stuff forced me into it. I did see a client for awhile where it felt consensual because we actually had great chemistry and was attracted to the guy but that's not how it usually works.

Normally it does suck and u wish u didn't have to do it. I often feel like I betrayed myself after I see someone. Or I can feel kind of bad inside after for a little while. I've had some scary experiences where I accidentally took a client that was dangerous and that can throw u into a long lasting emotional flashback where it takes a bit to come back out of that after a situation triggered it. I'm much more careful to avoid guys that might be problematic now because of experience and seeing patterns when they contact me.
 
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So the other day my friend wanted to go bang an escort. I didn't want to go because I was all depressed and shit. But he convinced me to go. I took some Viagra and some weed. Then when I was bagging her I asked her to ride on top of me. And OMG I was able to fully let go and surrender to the pleasure and I had the best orgasm of my life. It was so intense that I felt like I went to another dimension almost. Like a wave of pleasure came over my whole being. It was out of this world. I wish everyone could get the chance to experience that. Then my depression cleared up pretty fast after that. LOL I can only imagine how much better it would be if I did it with someone I really loved and cared about. Then me and my friend were in the car waiting to get sober and I kept cracking jokes here and there laughing my ass off.

I am not trying to be a white knight here. I am very much pro-choice when it comes to suicide. But at the same time I think if you can get the chance to let go and enjoy do it.

The only other experience that comes close was when I took 2c-b and 4-aco-dmt. I was in pure sublime bliss for hours, it was a magical mystical spiritual experience. And it's not addictive either. You can buy any of these things at dream marketplace.
Coke viagra and escort is better
Yea it's consensual but on the otherhand it's not. Sure the women are consenting but because they need the money or in some cases they had been forced into it. I was not forced into prostitution but untreated mental health stuff forced me into it. I did see a client for awhile where it felt consensual because we actually had great chemistry and was attracted to the guy but that's not how it usually works.

Normally it does suck and u wish u didn't have to do it. I often feel like I betrayed myself after I see someone. Or I can feel kind of bad inside after for a little while. I've had some scary experiences where I accidentally took a client that was dangerous and that can throw u into a long lasting emotional flashback where it takes a bit to come back out of that after a situation triggered it. I'm much more careful to avoid guys that might be problematic now because of experience and seeing patterns when they contact me.

But you could of easily limited the risks on ur choices. Ie working from hotels. Only taking booking online from clients that check out etc. To just have an open door knocking shop and no clue who the punters are or where came from or even worse than that working the streets then yeah you open the door for a whole load of abuse and being treated like dirt. Ones that do as they enjoy sex and money can do very well if don't fall into traps taking risks for money "I'll pay extra if u do car meet and drive out to woods" etc as too many temped by the "ill pay extra part" and not the "he can do anything at woods and don't even have to pay or not only take his own money back but rob yours too" safety before money everytime... kinda ironic talking about "safety first" on this forum I know
 
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