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noname223

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Oh damn boy. This one gonna be a long one.

Self-esteem is up. I had a 3 hours debate with friends about German politics and I crushed them. They are pretty savvy but I think their arguments were weak.

Then self-help group. There is a woman who seems to have sympathy for me. I think I am pretty open about my feelings and insecurities in this group. I got many compliments of women for that. But many were in relationships. The woman took the same bus as me I think to spend more time with me. She said another bus would have been better for her. I don't think she considers to leave her bf for me. But I think I am interesting for her. I wonder whether she wants to cheat emotionally on her bf just as the chemistry master student did. I doubt it. I think I am pretty deep. I am not sure about her intentions. She will soon leave the country for one year anyway. My friends say it is paranoid. Maybe they are right. But I doubt she has serious interest in me anyway. More that I am so interesting because I am so deep and emotionally available. The woman said in the group she has sexual dysfunction. I was moderator and that's my nightmare scenario. Talking about sexuality makes me so insecure. I had a few sexual experiences but not that many. It made me paranoid that topic. I think she noticed I was rather uncomfortable. But I overanalyzed the situation and pressured me not to show a weird facial expression or to grin. In the bus she asked me whether she overshared in the group when she opened up about that one thing. And I said the truth. I was very in my own thoughts not to show an inadequate expression and I was more concerned with myself. I am insecure what other people think of me. And I said to her I am a pathological oversharer in this group who trauma dumps all the fucking time. She had to chuckle about that. She said she wants to have children. But does not know whether she and her boyfriend can have children or whether they have to adopt them. She might have something genetically. But the "condition" of her bf sounded very strange. He does not want to have children because in his family there is this condition which is often inherited. It is something that can be inherited, maybe has something to do with genes. And it is unbelievably stigmatized. Even when I brought up my psychosis she said it is way more stigmatized. I wonder which condition is so stigmatized that you can literally talk with noone about it. And it can be inherited. The way she talked about it sounded very strange. Maybe you will laugh about my theory. But could it be a micro penis? Maybe I am just too paranoid. But I cannot think about a condition that spreads in the family that is so extremely stigmatized. Usually when it is inherited there is less stigma. Bro I should not speculate. But let's be honest I will never be able to shut my mouth in this forum. And everyone stays anonymous anyway. I have a little bit of a guilty conscience I have to admit that.

My dad is in a clinic. I think he has a depressive episode because he realized I cannot work. Which is totally insane and ridiculous. People say to me I must mean a lot to my dad if he suffers to much because of me. The thing is I said to my dad like countless literally more than 100 times that I am unable to work since 5-6 years. That I am extremely sure about it. And that he should not think something else. His reply was: "I don't believe. You live in a fantasy world." I think he meant with that: That in my fantasy world work is unnecessary because I live like in a fairy tale. And everything was for granted. But he does not get that I am literally unable to work. That I get fired when I am trying to hold a job. And yes I was fired. And he still did not believe it. I was in college half-time student abusing medication because I am way too ill for studying. And my family he included pressured me to keep going. Which ended in an almost attempt at the end of 2024. And when I told my dad that I ordered something lethal he replied. "I never thought you would actually do it. I thought these were all only (empty) words." Bro I also told him that this is a stupid stance. Anyway, he considers people who ctb stupid anyway he said that when I liked David Foster Wallace so much. So I guess I don't have to worry about my dad he could end his life. He even pressured me to keep going with college after it almost drove me to kill myself.

Well my aunt contacted me. I hate that bitch. I literally don't know her. But I am not interested to be in contact with her. My whole family sucks ass. After all the abuse I went through. And all this living nightmare. I think she is childless and regrets it. And now she wants to be in contact with me instead. Bro my family can go fuck themselves. My aunt wants that I visit my dad together with her and my sister. My dad wants that I am close to my sister. But the truth is my sister can go fuck herself. She blamed me for the child abuse I went through. She said to me it was my fault. She said if it was that hard for me why didn't I hit my mom back. What a fucking bitch to say something like that. Blaming an innocent child for something like that. My sister is surprised that I am not interested in contact with her. There was a time some years ago where we played video games. And I told her my opinion on suicide. And my mental state. And oh boy. She told my dad she dislikes being in contact with me because I am always so negative. And well that's fine. But my dad wants us to be close. I wanted to talk my way out of meeting my dad. Especially, with my family. With my cyncial sister she would blame me anyway. They wanted that we drive in the same car. And I said I prefer taking the train. Actually, I like travelling with a train more than with a car. But the primary reason is I want to avoid as much contact with my sister as possible.

I am a nursing case. And for my survival I am dependend on the help of others. My dad wants that my sister is the person who cares for me. I am supposed to kiss her ass for that. Bro I won't do that. I rather kill myself. I even said that literally to one therapist. Two of my closest friends are willing to care for me. One of them might leave the country which makes me nervous. I need at leaste one, two of them were better. I prefer this solution so much more to ass kissing of my sister. My dad said I shall not trust my friends with that. And that family is so much more important. But my family consists of complete morons. I think he wants to talk with me that my sister shall care for me. He even told me if I want such a big favor of her I need to work on our relationship. Bro I won't do that. I rather kill myself. I won't do that. And I am pretty sure she is not willing to do it anyway. She is dismissive and would also be as abusive as my mom. I have too much dignity than to beg my sister. And she would blame everything on me. And criticize me. She has no more depression after the psychoses. And works fulltime. Me instead I am a nursing case. She already criticized me in our few chat messages. I am so glad I could dodge the car drive with her. Fuck all of them.
 
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r.m.216

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So sorry you're going through this.
 
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Your dad and sister are awful. "Why didn't you hit your mother"; now I am not a hypocrite but I am 20 something years old now, I can see biological drives and natural tendencies and prevent myself from partaking in them, but that's me, an adult who's been through who knows how many shitty situations.

How the fuck is she expecting a kid to overcome their love for their parent and more so the fear of hitting the parent and then getting hit harder or making the parent cry (which is a tactic parents use to further manipulate their children). This is why abuse against children perpetrated by parents should lead to long life prison by the way. Kids are literally slaves to their parents because of how life and hardwiring works, the power imbalance is absolute both emotionally and physically; It also can't be climbed over NO MATTER WHAT in 99.99% cases.

It's not your fault and you shouldn't be going through this and I'll say the quiet part (which many of us who were abused are thinking about daily) out loud, you aren't even responsible to deal with this but for some reason society just doesn't care to do it's job. It's not your fault and it's also NOT your responsibility; society won't accept this as an answer, it will say it's entitlement. Wrong, they were provided by their parents, we weren't.

They will also give examples of kids who managed to go through it but that is a moot point because you are expected to be cared and loved by your family, that should be a guaranteed and any deviation from that should allow you to whine as much as you want and there should also be consequences for the abusers and help for you but alas we don't live in a life with the bare minimum; I bet Satan trips twice a day on his way to work because the bar is that low; 40 years ago he was playing limbo with it as a reference.
 
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noname223

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Your dad and sister are awful. "Why didn't you hit your mother"; now I am not a hypocrite but I am 20 something years old now, I can see biological drives and natural tendencies and prevent myself from partaking in them, but that's me, an adult who's been through who knows how many shitty situations.

How the fuck is she expecting a kid to overcome their love for their parent and more so the fear of hitting the parent and then getting hit harder or making the parent cry (which is a tactic parents use to further manipulate their children). This is why abuse against children perpetrated by parents should lead to long life prison by the way. Kids are literally slaves to their parents because of how life and hardwiring works, the power imbalance is absolute both emotionally and physically; It also can't be climbed over NO MATTER WHAT in 99.99% cases.

It's not your fault and you shouldn't be going through this and I'll say the quiet part (which many of us who were abused are thinking about daily) out loud, you aren't even responsible to deal with this but for some reason society just doesn't care to do it's job. It's not your fault and it's also NOT your responsibility; society won't accept this as an answer, it will say it's entitlement. Wrong, they were provided by their parents, we weren't.

They will also give examples of kids who managed to go through it but that is a moot point because you are expected to be cared and loved by your family, that should be a guaranteed and any deviation from that should allow you to whine as much as you want and there should also be consequences for the abusers and help for you but alas we don't live in a life with the bare minimum; I bet Satan trips twice a day on his way to work because the bar is that low; 40 years ago he was playing limbo with it as a reference.
Thank you for this very kind and thoughtful reply! Sending hugs and love back! :)
This community is so lovely.
 
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noname223

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Tomorrow, I will see them and I just hate these people. What they have done to me. Which wreck I have become.

I think my sister would like to guilt-trip me because my dad is now in a clinic for his depression because I cannot work. I certainly don't have a guilty conscience. Within the last 10 years I had 7 clinic stays and I almost killed myself last year because of the child abuse I endured. I dodged time alone with my sister so that she has no opportunity to say this cynical shit to me. My dad wants that we become close. But this bitch can go fuck herself. I certainly won't beg for her help.

My guess is tomorrow will be a very horrible day. But I will be able to vent in my self-help group on Monday. I hate that these people are my family.
 
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noname223

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It wasn't as horrible as expected. But it wasn't good either. I don't want to learn more about the history of my family. These people should not have procreated. I wish these people never met. It was a huge mistake to get children.

My aunt is okay. I still don't want contact with her. She is a smartass but not a good one. She reminds me of myself and I hate myself.

My sister is ignorant. I am a different person. I still think I am ignorant too so is my dad but in a different way.

My dad might get fired. The financial situation will become more dire. So much shit could happen. I needed good news, I needed a miracle but the opposite happens.
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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Interesting aftermath. I told my mom that this aunt of me can go fuck herself. I am not interested to have contact with her. What does this woman think? She did not care for me since more than 25 years and now she suddenly cares? This woman regrets that she never had children and now she remembers that she has a family. Sorry for you but I won't play this game with you. She also pretends if she knew about the child abuse she would have saved us.

I also got pretty angry when she lectured me how important family is. I give a fuck about my sister. They wanted that we have a closer relationship. My sister is cynical about my abuse, blamed it on me, called me unthankful. I think my family on both sides are horrible. They would not have let that happen if they were good people. Only my mom abused me. My dad and grandparents looked away. As an adult they pretended they never took notice of it which is a blatant lie. They are all in denial which is cynical. Technically, my aunt did not know anything. So why be mad at her? Well, fuck my whole family. I have a lot of self-hatred. My dad was also a perpetrator by letting that happen. How good can the family values actually be? Such an argumentation has flaws. I saw parallels between me and my aunt. She is also a wanna be smartass. She has a low level job and pretends to be in a leading position. I think she is full of shit. She pretends to be good in languages and made a very basic mistake in German grammar. In dialect some people use the wrong form. But I also dislike dialect. I don't feel connected to where I live. I never had a home. The area where I live is conservative. And because of this traditional/conservative mindset all of this abuse happened. She wanted to convince to be proud of my family. There is a bullshit story about my granddad that he never hurt anyone in WW2. That's probably a lie. I could imagine he was a war criminal. I don't have evidence for that but we are opportunists in this family.

I think it would be more rational to be more mad at the family of my mom but I also throw the family of my dad under the bus. It is full of mental illnesses. What have they thought about procreating? They were aware that there is a hereditary component of depression. They knew I was going to go through depression. And instead of caring for me, caring for my needs I went through insane abuse. Moreover, the family of my dad knew I had two psychoses. They offered basically nothing. They should not expect anything in return.

The funny thing is. I think it was not meant serious but it made me giggle. My grandma on the side of my mother was so proud of me throwing my aunt under the bus. She told my mom I will inherit all of her wealth after her death and my sister will see nothing. Tbh it made me giggle but I am pretty sure this won't happen. I will probably see nothing. There are other relatives who she likes more. Even if my suicide hinged on that she would not give me all the money. I am not stupid. Furthermore, I am not money hungry to inherit anything. I don't expect anything from my family and I think that is the best. With other people I also shit about the rest of my family. But I am smart enough to do it in a way that they won't find out. I have some Israeli relatives and I joked I hope the IDF soldier will be severely injured in war in a birthday card for one of my closest friends. My friends are both pro-Palestine.
 
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