Venting Venting to a pro-lifer gets me very irritated

[princeseadove]

Surprisingly, I don't have a genuine problem with pro-lifers until it comes to talking about my issues and getting comfort. And I realize now how.. angry it makes me. A few weeks ago I talked to a friend about my issues, and honestly I really wish I didn't. At the time I needed it, but now I can't help but think of all the ways I should have yelled at her. Comments like "things will get better" and stuff like that. More importantly about making connection. You know it was sometime last year that she told me I'm hard to love with a whole "no offense", and when I tell her she stays quiet. She tells me the friendgroup is here for me, but due to last years isolation it makes it very hard for me to be included now. I don't blame them, even when I did try this year they don't consider me at all. That thing I did tell her, though not directly. But it just frustrates me. It just feels like being lied too.

Yesterday I ended up caving and telling a friend I plan to commit suicide this year, and she told me a few things including the fact that there's nothing she can do because the choice is mine. And it's like. I DONT CARE MAN. Just repeating it over and over, and I don't want to be saved. For a long time I never did. Whenever I talk to her she makes it about herself, especially when I'm talking about my relationships with other people And she compares it to her relationship with those people and blah blah. It's like talking to a coworker about stuff you don't care about. We are two separate people, how they are with me is different how they are with you it's not the same!!! That's the thing I guess. She thinks that she is so similar to me that we are the same, when we really aren't.

And the thing that gets me is that fundamentally you can't get mad at them for saying stuff like this. They don't understand what it means to be wanting death so so so much with no way out. If you do get mad, if you do tell tell them how hypocritical it is, they don't truly listen. It goes in one ear and out the other, and the only thing theyll get from it is that youre ungrateful. I'm fucking sick of this

 

[sanctionedusage]

pro lifers are the only people ive ever wished would kts, paradoxically. they wouldnt take their own advice if they felt 20% of what a suicide-waiting-to-happen feels on the regular lol. suicidal or formerly suicidal pro lifers are even fucking dumber. it's not even morals, it's just common sense and logic. if you don't know what you're talking about, because you can't prove that you've experienced exactly what someone else is, how are you comfortable imposing your ideologies on them?

 

[Happy Cat]

People that are pro- anything are usually annoying

 

[princeseadove]

pro lifers are the only people ive ever wished would kts, paradoxically. they wouldnt take their own advice if they felt 20% of what a suicide-waiting-to-happen feels on the regular lol. suicidal or formerly suicidal pro lifers are even fucking dumber. it's not even morals, it's just common sense and logic. if you don't know what you're talking about, because you can't prove that you've experienced exactly what someone else is, how are you comfortable imposing your ideologies on them?

Honestly most prolifers do ending kts, a lot of people who commit suicide dont do it because they "believe" in it.. it's just easier than living. The problem comes with how they assume everyone is like them in some way. That, because they overcame their issues than most would as well. Something like survivor bias. But we aren't like them and never will be

 

[idontlikethehouse44]

People that are pro- anything are usually annoying

fax, the people I like the most are ones that are ying and Yang in terms of life.

Yin is the nihilistic side of your life, the driving force that often leads to suicide. Yang is the total opposite, seeing the value of your life, Yang is the part of you that makes you scared of committing, the force that makes every cell and fiber of your body refuse to jump down a 50 story building or something.

You will be miserable with people who gush over life and how good it is, you will also be miserable with people who are overly nihilistic to the point where life is the worst thing imaginable. So yeah, that applies to politics, opinions, anything in general.

 

[YourLocalEdgelord]

I wonder what their motivation is, considering they toy with lives they aren't even involved in. Do they wanna play hero? Feel better about themselves? I don't get it.

And the thing that gets me is that fundamentally you can't get mad at them for saying stuff like this. They don't understand what it means to be wanting death so so so much with no way out. If you do get mad, if you do tell tell them how hypocritical it is, they don't truly listen

Personally, they make my blood boil. They are like "no, we care about you, we will protect you." But when you do ask for help, they either A ignore you, or B make it someone else's problem ("Go to therapy", "Call this hotline", etc). Force you to stay only to make sure you keep suffering. Unbelieveably cruel!