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[LetMeOut67]

I went to A&E in July with suicidal thoughts and all this time later I'm still waiting for help . They've sent me a letter saying I'll be given some kind of life coach but that there is a 12 week wait for this.
It's just ridiculous. There is a mental health walk in centre nearby (run by a private charity not the NHS) but I've not gained the courage to go there as my depression is severe and I have little energy. I'm on a high dose of antidepressants doing long walks and weightlifting but I cannot get out of this maze I'm in. I live a very solitary life and it's just absolutely horrible especially this time of year. They tell us to be open about our mental health struggles but the help is minimal. I'm pretty sure I need electro convulsive therapy my depression is that bad and has been over twenty years but how am I going to get that unless I crack up or self harm or threaten to jump off a bridge or something.
Sick of it. It is just torture.

 

[Zardoz]

Why not try and phone or email the local walk in centre. They may have options other than you having to walk in off the street unannounced, maybe they could arrange a 121 chat with someone or something. Idk, just guessing.
I'm UK too, yes the NHS sucks.

 

[Redleaf1992]

Sorry to hear of your struggles. Unfortunatley the NHS is a joke for MH services.

Like the reply before me I would deffo try the charity if you can. It will be as much energy needed as anything the NHS offer at the end of the day.

It seems like the only way the NHS functions is they sign post to charities, as they provide better/quicker services than the NHS themselves

 

[ifihadnever]

Urgh NHS mental health services are beyond useless. They are a redundant service.

 

[LetMeOut67]

Urgh NHS mental health services are beyond useless. They are a redundant service.

Just wait until Reform get in
This country is finished unless you're affluent

 

[ifihadnever]

Just wait until Reform get in
This country is finished unless you're affluent

Oh I know! Ill be completely done for. I'll never get to see a health care professional once reform get it...or it will bankrupt me trying to do so!

 

[LetMeOut67]

Sorry to hear of your struggles. Unfortunatley the NHS is a joke for MH services.

Like the reply before me I would deffo try the charity if you can. It will be as much energy needed as anything the NHS offer at the end of the day.

It seems like the only way the NHS functions is they sign post to charities, as they provide better/quicker services than the NHS themselves

I should probably take advantage of it , I'm probably fortunate to have such a facility nearby. They will also be able to advise me on my next move.

 

[Redleaf1992]

I should probably take advantage of it , I'm probably fortunate to have such a facility nearby. They will also be able to advise me on my next move.

Yh, it's possible they work with other charities who might be able to help further. Unfortunately gotta find things outside of NHS for help.

 

[LetMeOut67]

I went for a long walk last night - I have to or I start wanting to headbutt the wall
Someone aged about 16 who I'd never met before came up to me saying he felt suicidal
The mental distress in this country is immense
1 in 4 on antidepressants apparently, that statistic is quoted on Daily Express website

 

[NoHorizon]

The state of the NHS now is truly depressing, and mental health services, even when you can access them, feel woefully inadequate. I'm glad you've been able to find long walks useful, though.

To your last post, I do think there's a big collapse coming with regards to mental health issues - so many people are so unhappy there has to be a breaking point.

 

[Trazyn]

Back in July I was assessed and referred for NHS talk therapy. They said the waiting list was about a month. I'm still waiting now. Since then I've had 2 more assessments after GP referrals (my GP keeps pushing them to get something set up). Both assessments were quick, within a day or two of the GP referral. But after that it's been useless. The first assessment took place in September and I waited a month only for them to say they decided therapy was the best route and I'm already on the waiting list so they wouldn't do anything. The second assessment was the start of this month. It's been just over a week and I haven't heard anything, but hopefully when I do it'll be more than just leaving me on the waiting list as I really tried this time to impress upon them that I need more than just therapy. I should have done that sooner, but the shame and self hatred that I even need help to begin with has made it hard to even ask.

 

[itsgone2]

Just wait until Reform get in
This country is finished unless you're affluent

I fear this is every country now. I don't live there so I can't speak much about reform, but I don't see where any political party anywhere has it right. I think the only safe bet is a strong middle class that people can get into. Nothing needs to be done for the rich obviously, and we need to help the poor, but right now that's the only two things I see any party or group talking about. Meanwhile, the middle class has been abandoned in my opinion. But it should be the strongest and the largest by far, then you would at least have these pathways from poor into middle as we've always had. But now those panels are disappearing because the middle class is disappearing. And no one seems to care. That same group is carrying a heavy bird and asked to carry more every day. Meanwhile, they shrink because what else could they do? It's too much. Too many jobs have been eliminated or outsourced or whatever.
Again, just my opinion

 

[LetMeOut67]

The state of the NHS now is truly depressing, and mental health services, even when you can access them, feel woefully inadequate. I'm glad you've been able to find long walks useful, though.

To your last post, I do think there's a big collapse coming with regards to mental health issues - so many people are so unhappy there has to be a breaking point.

Yeah I don't know how the system carries on but it's brutally Darwinist and those without conscience or pity will just sail through it and there's plenty of people like that
I'm having a terrible day might have to go to A&E

I have experienced a fresh depth of purgatory recently I think that's down to xmas approaching
I have few obligations but it is a time that really rubs in personal "failure"

I consider my existence to have been a fate worse than death especially in the last ten years
They should legalise voluntary assisted euthanasia cos there's lots of people who have no future at all
Of course the authorities won't allow it cos it makes them look awful and they want us to suffer anyway

I have managed to go to the mental health walk in day centre and may need to go again

 

[LetMeOut67]

I've told my brother that I have to delete myself if things don't change soon

 

[Trazyn]

I got a response from my second assessment. It was the same as the first - we don't have any services to help you. And the alternative they offered was more therapy.(I've had 5 courses of therapy in the last 2 years and none of them have helped, which I explained multiple times at the assessment) and then to say there's a charity drop in centre nearby I can use if I need support. I feel more like ending things now than I did before I asked for help, so good job there NHS.

The mental health services around here are a complete waste of time.

 

[Ghandi]

The state of the NHS now is truly depressing, and mental health services, even when you can access them, feel woefully inadequate. I'm glad you've been able to find long walks useful, though.

To your last post, I do think there's a big collapse coming with regards to mental health issues - so many people are so unhappy there has to be a breaking point.

The NHS is in a really poor state, but the system cannot be slated itself. The lack of government intervention, corrupt leadership and underfunding is really to blame. We were all born into the NHS and the people inside it at the frontline really do a great deal of work to support our nation.

 

[NoHorizon]

The NHS is in a really poor state, but the system cannot be slated itself. The lack of government intervention, corrupt leadership and underfunding is really to blame. We were all born into the NHS and the people inside it at the frontline really do a great deal of work to support our nation.

Oh absolutely, it's entirely a funding and management issue. I firmly believe in the NHS as a concept.

 

[slapntickle]

Mental health services in the NHS are pretty much non-existent, which is a sad fact, but I think it's not necessarily the NHS's fault, per se. There is a mental health crisis brewing, essentially IMO caused by social media/the internet in general, and essentially _any_ nationalised health system isn't equipped to deal with it properly.
Interestingly, one of the few "advantages" of a US-insurance based system is for mental health. I've noticed that online therapy platforms all accept insurance plans, meaning that one can get therapy on-tap without paying any more than they have to. I'm no expert but I think this means that even people on basic plans do actually get access to a lot of therapy. In the UK, this is pretty much impossible, as anyone signing up for the plan would instantly just top out their therapy allotment, and thus render the business model ineffective. My guess with the US model is that only a small % of people actually use the therapy, and so it still works.

 

[LetMeOut67]

There is a mental health crisis brewing, essentially IMO caused by social media/the internet in general,

100% I think it's destroying civilisation really it is that bad. I think we're slowly realising that it is absolutely demonic and has allowed humanity to expose itself as even more vile than we thought it was.
We all need to use it much much less

 

[LuckyStrike]

Nothing bad will happen if you go to mental health center nearby.

It can only help you

 

[LetMeOut67]

Nothing bad will happen if you go to mental health center nearby.

It can only help you

I went this evening and will go again on Xmas Eve
Felt a bit better but will still need some strenuous exercise now to try and weaken the demons a bit

I asked them about ECT and they didn't seem to know much
I feel that I will have to threaten suicide to get the help I desperately require

 

[LetMeOut67]

Feeling bloody awful today
Lifting weights. doing brisk walks, on high dose of medication but still very severely depressed
It's unbearable

It feels like they'll only help me if I start self harming or become psychotic

 

[LetMeOut67]

Saw a GP today
They've told me I probably have other issues like neuro divergency ADHD or whatever
Which I've been waiting for a test for for many years
They said they can't do anything until i get assessed for autism
I'll have to go private which is extremely expensive

I'm so fucking done jumping through hoops like this
With this very severe depression dragging on and on and on

None of us ask to be dragged into this fucking Darwinist nightmare only to have to struggle like an animal for basic survival

 

[apooka]

might be worth considering reaching out to private therapy organisations. i got my first appointment with somewhere local recently, but yeah be prepared for high prices (£80 btw AS A REDUCED PRICE). if you can manage to self-refer for talking therapies, it might be worth it...? although it's probably pointless, it's always worth a try. I self referred myself in september n only just got a text asking about booking appointments... so it does take a while. i think the lady said they have 1-to-1 online sessions or group in person sessions, but it might be different where you are.

 

[LetMeOut67]

I feel my only way out of this is going to the 24 hour gym late at night when it's empty.and working out vigorously
It's a joke fighting like this and struggling for a life that's not worth living at all

 

[LetMeOut67]

I think once I've learned to tie a noose I'm out of here
It's just got unbearable this year and I cannot do this anymore I've told my brother I need this to end

Chronic isolation
Depression
Other things I don't want to mention

 

[LetMeOut67]

I don't understand this autism / depression / electro convulsive therapy thing
My GP said that if I have autism it means my depression may not be organic
I understand that but I'm still very severely depressed and feel my life is at stake
My depression isn't a fixed thing allied to autism it's become much worse in the last two years in particular


It's terrifying

 

[elenaboo25]

Depression might be part of being autistic, unfortunately.

Many autistic people have cPTSD. For many, just existing in this world that isn't made for us can be traumatic. It is a type of trauma that is severe, repeated and never goes away.

Many autistic people are also good at seeing patterns and spotting lies, at least in the long run. If we learn that we can't trust anybody because everybody always ends up lying or doing something bad, it is logical to be depressed. Seeing that humans are evil is a depressing thing.

So yes, being depressed may be part of being autistic. I am autistic myself.

 

[LetMeOut67]

Depression might be part of being autistic, unfortunately.

Many autistic people have cPTSD. For many, just existing in this world that isn't made for us can be traumatic. It is a type of trauma that is severe, repeated and never goes away.

Many autistic people are also good at seeing patterns and spotting lies, at least in the long run. If we learn that we can't trust anybody because everybody always ends up lying or doing something bad, it is logical to be depressed. Seeing that humans are evil is a depressing thing.

So yes, being depressed may be part of being autistic. I am autistic myself.

100% we see this hellscape for what it is
We should be entitled to voluntary assisted euthanasia

 

[shampoo sniffer]

I feel my only way out of this is going to the 24 hour gym late at night when it's empty.and working out vigorously
It's a joke fighting like this and struggling for a life that's not worth living at all

there's such a thing as a 24 hour gym? That sounds like my kind of thing, I like night time because it's so quiet.