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I really want to tell my family I'm just not sure how to and am worried about their reaction.
I could talk to the nurses but I just don't think they would get it.
I know I'd rather be a boy, I always felt that. I always wanted my voice to drop, to have a penis etc.
My boyfriend is fine with me dressing like a tomboy, we have been together for just over a year. I'd like to stay with him if possible but I've already asked him how he feels about trans people and it was a very negative response. I'm honestly not sure what I'm attracted to. I always thought I liked men, but I'm beginning to think I just like them because that's how I want to be.
If you want to tell your family then go for it. Why you worried about their reaction? Could you feel any worse than you do? What is the worst outcome? Not accepting you?
I am sure the nurses would get it I do not think you will be the first or the last to feel like this.
You have to be prepared for your boyfriend to end it if he is already negative. If you want to transition and have a penis then he probably will end it if he wants a girl and you are then a boy. If you are happy to just dress the way you are and not have the transition then maybe he will stay. I do not no the answer really. I get the impression he wants to have children in the future and if you can not give him them then I guess he will not stay with you.
You say you are not sure what you are attracted to. Are you attracted to your boyfriend? Do you like the sexual relationship you have? Do you like him touching you?
It is a big decision for you. I do think maybe you are maybe confused about it all. You are young and you aren't in a good place at the moment. Your head will not be thinking straight. Your brain is still growing and it could be confusing you.
I do think the best thing to do is talk to someone. I am sure it will help. Is this why you are suicidal? Do you think if you talked and explored who you are to find out if it is really what you want it would stop you being suicidal?
I really hope you get the help
 
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If you want to tell your family then go for it. Why you worried about their reaction? Could you feel any worse than you do? What is the worst outcome? Not accepting you?
I am sure the nurses would get it I do not think you will be the first or the last to feel like this.
You have to be prepared for your boyfriend to end it if he is already negative. If you want to transition and have a penis then he probably will end it if he wants a girl and you are then a boy. If you are happy to just dress the way you are and not have the transition then maybe he will stay. I do not no the answer really. I get the impression he wants to have children in the future and if you can not give him them then I guess he will not stay with you.
You say you are not sure what you are attracted to. Are you attracted to your boyfriend? Do you like the sexual relationship you have? Do you like him touching you?
It is a big decision for you. I do think maybe you are maybe confused about it all. You are young and you aren't in a good place at the moment. Your head will not be thinking straight. Your brain is still growing and it could be confusing you.
I do think the best thing to do is talk to someone. I am sure it will help. Is this why you are suicidal? Do you think if you talked and explored who you are to find out if it is really what you want it would stop you being suicidal?
I really hope you get the help
Just wondering how things are? Have you managed to speak to anyone?
 
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Just wondering how things are? Have you managed to speak to anyone?
I've came out to my parents and they said they will support me either way.
 

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Hey everyone, it's been a while since I've posted on here. I was sectioned in May and have been in a psychiatric hospital ever since, been about 9 months.

Things are getting worse. Ever since I was a child I always remember feeling like a boy (I am a girl). When we'd play games, I'd always be the brother or give myself a male name etc. As I got older, I dressed more masculine, hated wearing dresses and skirts. Hated makeup and anything feminine. I guess you could say I was the typical tomboy. When I was about 11, I started gaming a lot. All my online friends thought I was a boy because I chose male avatars, dressed myself as as male and stuff. Then they would always ask why I never talked in voice chats. To me it was obvious, I had a girl voice and they thought I was a boy. So I started using voice changers to make myself sound more masculine. I am 22 now and have always used the same account and I have a group of friends that I've talked to since I was around 18. They too think I am male and I still use voice changers to make me sound as such. The problem is my voice doesn't always sound genuine and today someone called me out for it. I'm not entirely sure if my friend group still think I'm male or if they secretly know. I don't know if I'm just paranoid about it. I want to be honest with them but just really unsure of how they will take it. Knowing that I've basically lied to them all this time.

I've been beginning to realise that hiding this is not making it go away. I don't know what to do anymore. I haven't told anyone, and I always thought this would be a secret I'd take to the grave. I am really unhappy with how I am and I really want to start taking testosterone and transition. I also have a boyfriend who is openly transphobic. We've discussed having kids in the future and he said that he'd be fine if they came out as gay or lesbian, but he'd disown them if they came out as trans. Coming out to him means losing him and I can imagine that it is difficult to get into a relationship again as a trans person. There is a lot of hate out there and toxicity against us. How do I tell my parents that I no longer want to be their daughter? Especially after they told me how much they wanted and tried for a little girl.

I'd have to get another job, start fresh. I wouldn't want anyone knowing I am trans. I can't even look at myself anymore, I'm so disgusted. I guess deep down I've always known I was trans but I've just started to accept it now. Sometimes I think it's easier to just ctb instead of dealing with all this and that's where I'm leaning towards now. I'm just so trapped. Does anyone have any advice or just anything to help me? I appreciate this is not really a question and more of a rant but I really don't have anyone to talk to about this and this is the only place I could think of.
Your BF isn't gay, and you feel you're a man, so that one's obvious! You can buy Testosterone yourself from online steroid vendors and inject into fat rather than muscle - I administer TRT Test doses (40 yr old male) from underground labs this way. It's easy. You could also use other androgenic/anabolic steroids for short periods for manly muscular gainz and voice deepening. A VERY small dose of Trenbolone on top of Test for a short time for a biological female would produce very male characteristics, as it is very androgenic = male features! If you want to look like a male that no one would second guess, eat lots of animal protein, get on test, cycle steroids, and train your ass off! Unless you wanna look like a flabby soyboy, but that's up to you!
 
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Your BF isn't gay, and you feel you're a man, so that one's obvious! You can buy Testosterone yourself from online steroid vendors and inject into fat rather than muscle - I administer TRT Test doses (40 yr old male) from underground labs this way. It's easy. You could also use other androgenic/anabolic steroids for short periods for manly muscular gainz and voice deepening. A VERY small dose of Trenbolone on top of Test for a short time for a biological female would produce very male characteristics, as it is very androgenic = male features!
I think she needs to talk to professionals before she does anything. She seems very confused about herself and sounds unsure whether she is trans or not. She needs to make sure she is before she does anything. Too late to discover she's not trans if she's started injecting testosterone. I also do not think it is safe administering things bought online.
She has came out to her parents, hopefully she will come out to her psychiatrist and then see a professional. She can then get counselling. If it is what she wants she can then do it through the professionals. If it is not what she wants then no harm done
 
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I think she needs to talk to professionals before she does anything. She seems very confused about herself and sounds unsure whether she is trans or not. She needs to make sure she is before she does anything. Too late to discover she's not trans if she's started injecting testosterone. I also do not think it is safe administering things bought online.
She has came out to her parents, hopefully she will come out to her psychiatrist and then see a professional. She can then get counselling. If it is what she wants she can then do it through the professionals. If it is not what she wants then no harm done
Agreed, listen to Libby - what I suggested would be reckless, which I am!
 
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noaccount

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Hi @libby . Doctors don't actually decide whether people are transgender, and certainly psychiatrists do not. People decide whether they themselves are transgender. Thanks for your understanding.
 
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Hi @libby . Doctors don't actually decide whether people are transgender, and certainly psychiatrists do not. People decide whether they themselves are transgender. Thanks for your understanding.
I know they decide. When I said she sounded confused she agreed. I get the feeling from her posts that she isn't sure if she is or she isn't. I mean she needs to come out to her psychiatrist so he can pass her over to the professionals who work in transgender. She needs to explore and find herself whatever that may be
 
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Hi Libby. People don't 'need' to talk to professionals who work with transgender people if they don't want to, it's their choice. Thanks for understanding.
 
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watchingthewheels

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Jan 23, 2021
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Hey everyone, it's been a while since I've posted on here. I was sectioned in May and have been in a psychiatric hospital ever since, been about 9 months.

Things are getting worse. Ever since I was a child I always remember feeling like a boy (I am a girl). When we'd play games, I'd always be the brother or give myself a male name etc. As I got older, I dressed more masculine, hated wearing dresses and skirts. Hated makeup and anything feminine. I guess you could say I was the typical tomboy. When I was about 11, I started gaming a lot. All my online friends thought I was a boy because I chose male avatars, dressed myself as as male and stuff. Then they would always ask why I never talked in voice chats. To me it was obvious, I had a girl voice and they thought I was a boy. So I started using voice changers to make myself sound more masculine. I am 22 now and have always used the same account and I have a group of friends that I've talked to since I was around 18. They too think I am male and I still use voice changers to make me sound as such. The problem is my voice doesn't always sound genuine and today someone called me out for it. I'm not entirely sure if my friend group still think I'm male or if they secretly know. I don't know if I'm just paranoid about it. I want to be honest with them but just really unsure of how they will take it. Knowing that I've basically lied to them all this time.

I've been beginning to realise that hiding this is not making it go away. I don't know what to do anymore. I haven't told anyone, and I always thought this would be a secret I'd take to the grave. I am really unhappy with how I am and I really want to start taking testosterone and transition. I also have a boyfriend who is openly transphobic. We've discussed having kids in the future and he said that he'd be fine if they came out as gay or lesbian, but he'd disown them if they came out as trans. Coming out to him means losing him and I can imagine that it is difficult to get into a relationship again as a trans person. There is a lot of hate out there and toxicity against us. How do I tell my parents that I no longer want to be their daughter? Especially after they told me how much they wanted and tried for a little girl.

I'd have to get another job, start fresh. I wouldn't want anyone knowing I am trans. I can't even look at myself anymore, I'm so disgusted. I guess deep down I've always known I was trans but I've just started to accept it now. Sometimes I think it's easier to just ctb instead of dealing with all this and that's where I'm leaning towards now. I'm just so trapped. Does anyone have any advice or just anything to help me? I appreciate this is not really a question and more of a rant but I really don't have anyone to talk to about this and this is the only place I could think of.
I wish I knew what to say. Being gay, I feel like I SHOULD know what to say. The truth is, I feel horrible about my own attitudes towards trans people. Not that I would ever harm someone like that, or anything to disparage them, just that I don't understand it. (It's probably because I am not a fan of "drag queens" and such, but I've come to learn that those are two distinct things.) And I never truly accepted in myself that I am homosexual. Even though I left Christianity over it (among other reasons), I still have residual "guilt" about being gay, even though I know better. So, how could I understand it, when I don't understand and accept me?

Rather than ramble on like a narcissist, then, I'll just say I'm sorry for what you're going through. Even though I don't understand your specifics, I understand it in principle. For what it's worth, I hope you find peace with it.
 
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Hi Libby. People don't 'need' to talk to professionals who work with transgender people if they don't want to, it's their choice. Thanks for understanding.
I know it's there choice! I did not say it wasn't!!I just said if she's confused and not sure I think it would be best to get advice!
Thanks for understanding
 
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May 6, 2021
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Hey, sorry I haven't been active in this thread since my first post, been busy and struggling with personal matters, but I wanted to check up on you. I've finally caught up with the conversation, so I'll reply as best as I can.

Hey guys thanks to all who have responded, you've all helped calm me down and I really appreciate how supportive you all have been.

I decided to come out to one of my online friends and have told them everything. They now know I am a girl and that I wish to be a boy. They were shocked at first and of course didn't believe me until we video called. After her initial shock, she was accepting and told me that everything will be fine and that she will be there to support me. It feels great to be able to talk to her about it as we have been friends for 3 years now. And not just that, I can be more open towards her and actually talk over the phone or video call which is amazing.

Little update for anyone who's interested:

I asked my boyfriend if he'd still love me if I was trans and he replied with 'You know where the door is'. I don't know what I'd do without him, but if I come out as trans, I lose him too. I now just see my future as once I get out of the psychiatric ward, I'm going to quit my job, come out as trans and then ctb. I know how to order SN as I've done it twice in the past. My biggest regret is not jumping when I had the chance.
Honestly, I still feel your boyfriend is not a good influence for you now or in the future, he sounds really transphobic and I feel that'd only worsen your mental health; your identity shouldn't be degraded by what other people want you to be, you deserve to be respected and referred as you wish. It's hard to leave someone who you love deeply, even if they hurt you, I've gone through a similar situation myself. But remember that your wellbeing comes first and foremost.

Doesn't sound like a bad plan. I'm sorry for what you've gone through, I don't know much but based from things you've said in this thread, it paints a picture in my mind of very difficult life circumstances. I wish you well with whatever you decide to carry through.
I really want to tell my family I'm just not sure how to and am worried about their reaction.
I could talk to the nurses but I just don't think they would get it.
I feel you should really talk to it with the nurses, gender identity is very important to a patient's mental health, so letting them know how you feel about yourself and how you want to be referred is helpful, but I understand the worry. Take your time to think about it.
I'm honestly not sure what I'm attracted to. I always thought I liked men, but I'm beginning to think I just like them because that's how I want to be.
It's completely understandable. When I began questioning my gender I also did with my sexual orientation. I used to think I was heterosexual even though I had a small undefined attraction for girls since I was young (though, I didn't know it at the time); I had a hard time thinking about myself as bisexual due to never being in a romantic relationship with a woman. After researching about different sexualities and reflecting about it I felt more comfortable calling myself bi and coming out as such, but it definitely took its time. I know of other trans folks who've gone through similar journeys, so you're not alone.

Again, take your time, there's no pressure to define everything about yourself now, you're valid regardless of who you are attracted to. Reading about others' experiences in forums or articles can be extremely useful.
I've came out to my parents and they said they will support me either way.
As a reply to the first quoted message and this one, congratulations! I'm super happy for you! You've had very good first steps, I was rooting for you and I'm glad almost everything came out great. Parents and friends' support are super important when a trans person is coming out, so you have a very solid foundation to begin of your transition. Excellent! Something less to worry about.
I wish I knew what to say. Being gay, I feel like I SHOULD know what to say. The truth is, I feel horrible about my own attitudes towards trans people. Not that I would ever harm someone like that, or anything to disparage them, just that I don't understand it. (It's probably because I am not a fan of "drag queens" and such, but I've come to learn that those are two distinct things.) And I never truly accepted in myself that I am homosexual. Even though I left Christianity over it (among other reasons), I still have residual "guilt" about being gay, even though I know better. So, how could I understand it, when I don't understand and accept me?

Rather than ramble on like a narcissist, then, I'll just say I'm sorry for what you're going through. Even though I don't understand your specifics, I understand it in principle. For what it's worth, I hope you find peace with it.
Hey, don't be too hard on yourself, it's not uncommon to face hardship accepting your own sexuality and/or gender identity. Sadly, our society is built upon many prejudices and negative stereotypes of the LGBTQ+ community, we're exposed to these negative depictions through our daily lives; in your case it was Christianity, which has openly repressed homosexuality and historically punished it; but there also more subtle ways society reinforces negative ideas about the community and it's very difficult to get rid of them, regardless if you are trans or cis, gay or straight. It's called internalized homophobia and internalized transphobia, respectively.

For example, before coming out as trasmasculine, I used to be very transphobic and homophobic due to the people I got along with, their beliefs. the media I was exposed, the lack of knowledge and the cultural view most of my country had on the LGBTQ+ community. It took me years to detach from most of my homophobic/transphobic attitudes, and even then I'm still not 100% free from them, but I'm trying to learn and not repeat the same mistakes of the pasts.

Judging from your message, you seem to be aware of your internalized homophobia, which is good. Do not fear, you're not a bad person or anything along those lines, it means you know you have a problem that's afflicting you and can take steps to change your mindset. My best suggestion is read about many aspects and history of the community, talking with other gay people who may have gone or are going through the same experience and trying to view your sexuality from more positive facets. It'll take time, but it's for the better.

In any case, I wish you well. You deserve to be at peace with who you are.​
 
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I'm glad that your parents will still support you. It's not easy to come out, even to those that you know will support you.

It's always heartbreaking when those closest to you stop supporting you just because you tell them how you feel inside. I wish more people could understand that when someone comes out, it's still the same person they grew to love, it shouldn't matter if they are lgbt or not.

It hurts that people change their view on someone just because of ignorant beliefs. It truly makes it feel like there is something wrong with being lgbt.

I'm sorry that your boyfriend is transphobic. It's hard to lose people you care about. Sadly, in this society, coming out can lose friends and family. To have to choose between being yourself or potentially being alone. It shouldn't be that way.

Whatever happens in the future, if you identify as male, then you are and that there is nothing wrong with you. Just being different can make someone feel like a freak of nature, I do at least.

I can understand feeling trapped and that there is no way out. I sometimes feel like it is easier to just ctb, rather than living a lie for the rest of my life. Not to mention the self hate that comes from not fitting in with society's expectations.

You are always welcome to rant, and if any bigots start showing up, I'd glad give them a bit of well deserved educating.

Sorry if some of this doesn't apply to you, our experiences could be vastly different, I can never truly know what a person is going through unless I were them. I hope the best for you, learning accept yourself is no easy journey, especially when society doesn't understand.
 
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