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rhiino
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1. PositioningPlease lets write the better and safer plan to Ctb by this technique including all aspects .positioning ,time,time of the day,train type,train speed,earplugs,black clothes,injuries,time in pain until death fron decapitation,how much pain does it involve,how to know when the train will pass from where you are waiting it.
Perfect guide I especially like how you mention that for train decapitation the speed of the train doesn´t really matter I have said it myself to other people as advice, I have even seen videos where people used train decapitation successfully at the train station when the train was at a near stop around the 2-5km/h but if I chose this method I would do it in a secluded area I know also when the train is at high speed like you would yourself.1. Positioning
Probably best to go for decapitation, neck on the rails. Jumping in front of a fast-moving train is basically also certain death, but might be not instant lights out. If your head gets in touch with the train when jumping in front of it you wont recover. Obviously you want the train to go fast for jumping in front of it.
2. Time of the day
Preferably very early in the morning or in the evening. You are less likely to get caught, due to lower "human density" + you are harder to see.
3. Train type
I think any train will do, except maybe this big cargo trains in very cold areas that always carry this kind of "shovel" in front of them. Jumping in front of those might work, but laying on the tracks might result in your body getting smashed away from the tracks, heavily wounded but not dead (small chance but a chance).
4. Train speed
Decapitation method -> As long as the wheels will reach your neck without problems (e.g. these snow shovels at the front of some special trains), even a 2 km/h train will do the job, although it will obviously hurt more. Id say anything around 20 km/h is already pretty instant. I prefer still travel speed of round 80-100 km/h.
Jumping method -> You wanna have the train moving fast, otherwise you have to get lucky to get mangled below the train just in the right way so you actually die. That is why I dont really understand people trying to kill themselves in station in front of incoming trains that slow down, but that is why there are also quite a lot stories of people that survived these specific attempts.
5. Earplugs
If you picked a spot, know the travel schedule of the trains there and are decided on a method (jumping or laying with your neck on the tracks) then I think earplugs are just fine to use. Could even help with the SI, as an oncoming train will do a lot of noise and you might panic and are not calm enough anymore to do your thing. I personally would use earpods and listen to music of my choice.
6. Clothes
I would go for dark clothes, doesnt have to be necessarily black, just dark and make sure there is nothing reflective on it. Combination of dark clothes and choosing early early morning or early/late evening to do it results in pretty good chances to not be seen. (Especially by people that might be around the spot you choose, cause for the sake of your suicide it doesnt matter if the traindriver sees you or not if you choose a spot outside of stations, cause there is no time to brake)
7. Decapitation
I agree with @rhiino . Nothing to add from me.
8. Train schedule
Once you chose a spot you can check on a nearby station what kind of trains travel there and what their time schedule is. If you wanna be super precise check the departure time of the train at the station that lies before your chosen spot and the arrival time of the train at the station that lies ahead of your chosen spot and then calculate. But I think we have these few more minutes, so just be at the spot at the time the train arrives at the station before your spot and that ensures you wont miss it.
My personal point (maybe you meant that by train type)
8. What kind of train?
I wouldnt go for an express train as they often travel on more secure highspeed tracks and a "normal" regional train will do the job just fine and the tracks those trains are using are often not that secured and not even fenced off (Highspeed tracks are often fenced off or even have solid walls around them, not necessarily because of the suicides but because of the noise they are producing).
I personally planned with a regional train at a spot where there is pretty much nothing around, just behind a long turn, so I can wait at the tracks - but unseen - and then a few seconds before the train passes I will lay my head on the rails facing the direction the train is heading. It will probably be sometime in the evening as I am not keen of getting up super early in general. Ill be wearing dark clothes, numbed myself with enough alcohol and have music with me. The train travels with ~80 km/h there which is plenty of speed so the "interaction" between traindriver and me is also minimized.
@any% super detailed thank you !!!you did a really great job!!! I need to ask something just come in mind usually thd train rail have two lines one is going away ,one is coming ,correct ? How do we know from which side the train will come in order to lay the head on?
Also need to ask will you position your head in the rails having your neck on the rails and the rest body out of the rails ? Or will you have all your body in the rails and only the head hanging out of the rails at the outside?Well in that case it would be best to actually observe the spot a few times to see which track is used for which direction. But this is also only necessary if you want to look away from the train (like i do). Also my hearing is very well and so far I could distinguish where the "zizzling" within the rails comes from and thus I knew where the train is coming from. "My" single track is used for both directions and I have ridden the train on it many times, so I just have to be there at the right time (looking at the train schedule and knowing which direction to look for) and then I know from which direction it is coming!
When I will do it, I will have only the neck on the "first rail" and the rest of my body outside of the rails.Also need to ask will you position your head in the rails having your neck on the rails and the rest body out of the rails ? Or will you have all your body in the rails and only the head hanging out of the rails at the outside?
Is it possible to stick a post?! Unfortunately not. I feel like this post has to be the first post on a train megathread.1. Positioning
Probably best to go for decapitation, neck on the rails. Jumping in front of a fast-moving train is basically also certain death, but might be not instant lights out. If your head gets in touch with the train when jumping in front of it you wont recover. Obviously you want the train to go fast for jumping in front of it.
2. Time of the day
Preferably very early in the morning or in the evening. You are less likely to get caught, due to lower "human density" + you are harder to see.
3. Train type
I think any train will do, except maybe this big cargo trains in very cold areas that always carry this kind of "shovel" in front of them. Jumping in front of those might work, but laying on the tracks might result in your body getting smashed away from the tracks, heavily wounded but not dead (small chance but a chance).
4. Train speed
Decapitation method -> As long as the wheels will reach your neck without problems (e.g. these snow shovels at the front of some special trains), even a 2 km/h train will do the job, although it will obviously hurt more. Id say anything around 20 km/h is already pretty instant. I prefer still travel speed of round 80-100 km/h.
Jumping method -> You wanna have the train moving fast, otherwise you have to get lucky to get mangled below the train just in the right way so you actually die. That is why I dont really understand people trying to kill themselves in station in front of incoming trains that slow down, but that is why there are also quite a lot stories of people that survived these specific attempts.
5. Earplugs
If you picked a spot, know the travel schedule of the trains there and are decided on a method (jumping or laying with your neck on the tracks) then I think earplugs are just fine to use. Could even help with the SI, as an oncoming train will do a lot of noise and you might panic and are not calm enough anymore to do your thing. I personally would use earpods and listen to music of my choice.
6. Clothes
I would go for dark clothes, doesnt have to be necessarily black, just dark and make sure there is nothing reflective on it. Combination of dark clothes and choosing early early morning or early/late evening to do it results in pretty good chances to not be seen. (Especially by people that might be around the spot you choose, cause for the sake of your suicide it doesnt matter if the traindriver sees you or not if you choose a spot outside of stations, cause there is no time to brake)
7. Decapitation
I agree with @rhiino . Nothing to add from me.
8. Train schedule
Once you chose a spot you can check on a nearby station what kind of trains travel there and what their time schedule is. If you wanna be super precise check the departure time of the train at the station that lies before your chosen spot and the arrival time of the train at the station that lies ahead of your chosen spot and then calculate. But I think we have these few more minutes, so just be at the spot at the time the train arrives at the station before your spot and that ensures you wont miss it.
My personal point (maybe you meant that by train type)
8. What kind of train?
I wouldnt go for an express train as they often travel on more secure highspeed tracks and a "normal" regional train will do the job just fine and the tracks those trains are using are often not that secured and not even fenced off (Highspeed tracks are often fenced off or even have solid walls around them, not necessarily because of the suicides but because of the noise they are producing).
I personally planned with a regional train at a spot where there is pretty much nothing around, just behind a long turn, so I can wait at the tracks - but unseen - and then a few seconds before the train passes I will lay my head on the rails facing the direction the train is heading. It will probably be sometime in the evening as I am not keen of getting up super early in general. Ill be wearing dark clothes, numbed myself with enough alcohol and have music with me. The train travels with ~80 km/h there which is plenty of speed so the "interaction" between traindriver and me is also minimized.
EDIT: Totally forgot:
9. Picking a spot
I would not do it in stations. Too many variables there. I would go for a spot outside and in between 2 stations where the train is usually travelling at higher speeds. Additionally a spot just behind a turn and not on a straight part of the track, as you might be seen earlier than expected. I would also choose, if available, a single track spot, because those are (at least here where i live) super easy to reach and have bushes and trees right next to them, where one can hide. I already was at my chosen spot and watched several trains pass by as I was just ~4m away from the track but hidden well within some bushes. Dual track spots - where i live - are larger and often have also some kind of fence/wall around and the vegetation around it is usually cut back drastically.
I'm going to be using this method in a few days time. I've been planning it for a few weeks now and have done practice runs to the spot and now know the exact time when the train will get there.I'm no expert, this information is based on what I've read online.
The best way of killing yourself this way is probably lying with your neck on the railway track, so the train decapitates you. Do it on a high speed train line, near a blind bend.
Advantages: should be quick, and therefore reasonably painless. I can't guarantee that though, as I said, I'm no expert.
Please feel free to discuss other advantages and disadvantages.
I did ask the mods for permission before creating this thread, but got no reply.
I hope it all works out well for you and that you thought it through. I might use that method too one day, if all other options close up on me.I'm going to be using this method in a few days time. I've been planning it for a few weeks now and have done practice runs to the spot and now know the exact time when the train will get there.
It's been hard trying to find a spot of railway in Glasgow that's not fenced off but I lucked out when I spotted the location in the back end of a park I go to, you need to clamber through a few bushes and trees then over a 3ft wooden fence but everywhere else is 8ft+ fences. I'm glad I found this thread as it's confirmed to me the decapitation method is best(which I was most likely going to use anyway). I just have something to take care of online tomorrow before I'm gone on Tuesday.
Thank you. The gun control in my country makes most of the most lethal methods impossible, the only other options apart from the train were hanging or cyanide(from lostallhope.com) . Cyanide again, basically impossible to obtain and I was going to hang myself but I couldn't even tie the rope because my hand-eye coordination is terrible so I've chosen the train.I hope it all works out well for you and that you thought it through. I might use that method too one day, if all other options close up on me.
Yeah, i feel you. Once i go back home, most of my avaliable options will be gone, and i cant hang myself next to my sleeping mum, brother and dogs. Thats too shitty.Thank you. The gun control in my country makes most of the most lethal methods impossible, the only other options apart from the train were hanging or cyanide(from lostallhope.com) . Cyanide again, basically impossible to obtain and I was going to hang myself but I couldn't even tie the rope because my hand-eye coordination is terrible so I've chosen the train.
Wait are you joking?Something to note is the random element. You can't control much when it comes to this method. So I would think there is a real chance there is a % out there where it won't work.
Now as far as death method. I think it cutting off your head is bad since you will still live for as long as your brain has what it needs. I think having it crush your skull would be better. But this is random and who knows if you will feel it.
There is too much random in this for me to want to do this.
I used google maps, just went to my nearest station then followed the trainline out both ways to see if there were spots I could get in at then I visited the spot in real life to make sure.How do you find out where the nearest high speed train lines to where you exist are?
As you mentioned, i would put my neck on the rail, and let my body stay outside. Then wait for the train to come, and hopefully quickly decapitate me.I can't find any information stated in the compilation of positions and the valueable information.
I mean position is pretty obvious ,put your neck on the railway , but seeing as there was details on this I got curious.
Anyone care to share?
What about calculating the best spot (highest speed) and what about a ghillie suit ? If you have that the chances of them detecting you on the track is greatly minimized.As you mentioned, i would put my neck on the rail, and let my body stay outside. Then wait for the train to come, and hopefully quickly decapitate me.
I dont think theres much more to it, and i doubt there is better spot to slice of then neck.
Im not sure if ill feel anything if my head gets chopped off, but i believe that all the bleeding out will work similiar to carotid compression. Theres no actual blood flow without heart, so it shouldnt take long.. Im willing to take that risk lol.
Im not sure what else to say here. Trains in my area are very easily accessible and runing close to my house, through the forrests so there would be nobody to see me, interupt me, or train to stop so fast.
I wouldnt go near bends as the usualy slow down on those. Straight line is my best option.What about calculating the best spot (highest speed) and what about a ghillie suit ? If you have that the chances of them detecting you on the track is greatly minimized.
If you are decapitated you lose conscious thought in nanoseconds and you are dead.As you mentioned, i would put my neck on the rail, and let my body stay outside. Then wait for the train to come, and hopefully quickly decapitate me.
I dont think theres much more to it, and i doubt there is better spot to slice of then neck.
Im not sure if ill feel anything if my head gets chopped off, but i believe that all the bleeding out will work similiar to carotid compression. Theres no actual blood flow without heart, so it shouldnt take long.. Im willing to take that risk lol.
Im not sure what else to say here. Trains in my area are very easily accessible and runing close to my house, through the forrests so there would be nobody to see me, interupt me, or train to stop so fast.
A train going 5mph will decapitate you because of the sheer weight of it, as long as they don't see you early enough to stop the train completely you will die.What about calculating the best spot (highest speed) and what about a ghillie suit ? If you have that the chances of them detecting you on the track is greatly minimized.
Yeah it will but it can be less painful if it's faster.If you are decapitated you lose conscious thought in nanoseconds and you are dead.
A train going 5mph will decapitate you because of the sheer weight of it, as long as they don't see you early enough to stop the train completely you will die.
Now thats the biggest issue with this method. You cant miss it. Even with the loudest music you will know. But i guess it depends on determination and desperationI believe this would be a relatively painless way to go, and I considered the method. The problem is: will you be able to keep your neck on the tracks while hearing the train bearing down on you.
If you take a sleeping pill so you are sure you are sleeping on the track then you would never know what hit you.I believe this would be a relatively painless way to go, and I considered the method. The problem is: will you be able to keep your neck on the tracks while hearing the train bearing down on you.
You might wake up in hospital with no arms as you moved your head away, though.If you take a sleeping pill so you are sure you are sleeping on the track then you would never know what hit you.
Take glue, apply it on neck and then take sleeping pill. There are fast acting glues out there for skin.You might wake up in hospital with no arms as you moved your head away, though.
I know someone who lost his legs to a suicide attempt by train. I don't know if he was originally going for decapitation (or what exactly went down) but I do know that he was drunk so yeah you gotta be sure and know what you're doing I guess.You might wake up in hospital with no arms as you moved your head away, though.
Well, that is a whole new level, glueing yourself to the train tracks and going to sleep there.Take glue, apply it on neck and then take sleeping pill. There are fast acting glues out there for skin.