Tonight is the night, it's time to say goodbye

[rt1989526]

This events can radicalise the others SS users, pretty sure.

What does this mean

 

[Quinlor]

What does this mean

A person that is doubt, after read this thread decides go ahead to ctb.

 

[_Kaira_]

A person that is doubt, after read this thread decides go ahead to ctb.

I mostly disagree with this. Sure it can contribute to a lot of our sadness, but MOST of us from this website have already come to terms that they want to CTB. It's never a good feeling to watch someone in so much pain decide this is the only way out. I could be wrong to some extent, but I think most of us will not decide to CTB just because someone else on this site decided that they had enough of this world.

 

[Quinlor]

I mostly disagree with this. Sure it can contribute to a lot of our sadness, but MOST of us from this website have already come to terms that they want to CTB. It's never a good feeling to watch someone in so much pain decide this is the only way out. I could be wrong to some extent, but I think most of us will not decide to CTB just because someone else on this site decided that they had enough of this world.

well, I only expressed my personal opinion and probably about my own situation. But you are right that almost people here already decided to CTB, still haven't only opportunity and resources to accomplish.

 

[Meditation guide]

She said she felt dizzy a couple of times and that was all, not even vomiting although we don't know for sure.
And all she took was Gaviscon. Seems to me it doesn't matter what they take.

 

[DocNo]

A person that is doubt, after read this thread decides go ahead to ctb.

i also doubt this "Copycat suicide" theory.
from my personal experience i can say - reading the process of letzteAusfahrt and AJ vanishing, gave me a pretty bad feeling in my stomach while reading.
not for missing them (i didnt really know them - wasnt yet registered here) but cause it made this process much more real and did lead me more to a rethinking process than an affirmative process.
even this two passings seemed pretty peacefull - it doesnt make the final step easier. cause even if you just would have to push a button to end yourself, you would be always aware what huge decision you are about to make.

 

[Meditation guide]

even this two passings seemed pretty peacefull - it doesnt make the final step easier. cause even if you just would have to push a button to end yourself, you would be always aware what huge decision you are about to make.

Yes it's huge but for some not too hard to make this decision if the suffering is unrelenting.

 

[_Kaira_]

Exactly what @DocNo said. I reply to a lot of goodbye threads. Most of them I never knew one bit. But once the detail of the actual process comes in, it makes my stomach turn. An overwhelming sense of sadness and deep level thinking about the process and knowledge someone had taken their life as I bore witness to it, even online. It's just very unsettling to think about.

Of course, it doesn't turn me away from the aspect of CTB. Still very much want to. If I had the means to I'd go myself. Like I said, these are just very heartbreaking posts.

 

[Disappointered]

Glad to read indications that it was peaceful and quick.

 

[Meditation guide]

But once the detail of the actual process comes in, it makes my stomach turn. An overwhelming sense of sadness and deep level thinking about the process and knowledge someone had taken their life as I bore witness to it, even online.

I tear up. Especially if for example, there is a photo of a hand, holding some ibuprofen, the pictures of the glasses of poison, this person in their last minutes of life, sharing images of what is about to kill them. It's heartbreaking.

Yet we understand, most of us anyway.

 

[muffin222]

This events can radicalise the others SS users, pretty sure.

I disagree. At the end of the day, people on here are adults, and they make their own choices. If someone decides to ctb, it's because they wanted to and chose to, most likely due to intense and intolerable suffering.

Nobody can be "radicalized" to do something as drastic as end their own life unless there are pre-existing factors at play that have led them to consider suicide to begin with. We're simply equipped with too many in-built survival mechanisms to be swayed towards suicide simply by reading about it. If people are hell-bent on dying, they will. If they're on the fence, they're likely to stay there until something within them clicks and they override their in-built survival instincts.

Plus, we're on a suicide forum. Presumably, most of us are here because we already want to die. We don't need to be "radicalized" by other people's goodbye threads to ctb...we're already at our limits.

 

[_Kaira_]

I tear up. Especially if for example, there is a photo of a hand, holding some ibuprofen, the pictures of the glasses of poison, this person in their last minutes of life, sharing images of what is about to kill them. It's heartbreaking.

Yet we understand, most of us anyway.

Exactly this. The pictures and the posts with timestamps get to me so much. We know these things, we know the processes on various levels, and yet when we see it, the realness can hit a little too hard. Not everyone feels this way, but damn, it makes me choke up.

I disagree. At the end of the day, people on here are adults, and they make their own choices. If someone decides to ctb, it's because they wanted to and chose to, most likely due to intense and intolerable suffering.

Nobody can be "radicalized" to do something as drastic as end their own life unless there are pre-existing factors at play that have led them to consider suicide to begin with. We're simply equipped with too many in-built survival mechanisms to be swayed towards suicide simply by reading about it. If people are hell-bent on dying, they will. If they're on the fence, they're likely to stay there until something within them clicks and they override their in-built survival instincts.

Plus, we're on a suicide forum. Presumably, most of us are here because we already want to die. We don't need to be "radicalized" by other people's goodbye threads to ctb...we're already at our limits.

Better explained than how I wanted to. These kinds of threads can trigger us to some extent, maybe even some long more for CTB. But again, following through with it can never be put on others who felt like or needed to say goodbye to probably one of their only sources of comfort in their final days. This is what SS is for. Support to the very end, but not encouragement. (<-I see you pro lifers)

 

[muffin222]

This is what SS is for. Support to the very end, but not encouragement. (<-I see you pro lifers)

I wholeheartedly agree. We're not here to encourage anyone to die, but to support them in their final moments, whatever they ultimately decide to do. No one should have to go out alone without support, unless they genuinely want to, of course.

 

[Cant Maintain]

It fucking hurts every fucking time but at least she's at fucking peace. I'm glad she was supported till the end.

 

[Meditation guide]

We're not here to encourage anyone to die, but to support them in their final moments, whatever they ultimately decide to do. No one should have to go out alone without support, unless they genuinely want to, of course.

They should have an easier way out. They should be allowed to simply drink a strong drug that puts them to sleep. Not drink this vile chemical, that turns their blood to brown sludge. Or rig up something that lets them inhale nitrogen. Risking brain damage.

Why do they only understand in Belgium? Why not put this to a national vote?

 

[Disappointered]

If you can mix SN with opiates I think that's what I will do.

 

[_Kaira_]

They should have an easier way out. They should be allowed to simply drink a strong drug that puts them to sleep. Not drink this vile chemical, that turns their blood to brown sludge. Or rig up something that lets them inhale nitrogen. Risking brain damage.

Why do they only understand in Belgium? Why not put this to a national vote?

I think that's what scares me the most about majority of methods. The messiness behind it all. Sure enough, death itself is scary. But none of the methods are good enough in my opinion. A fail-safe drug to make us sleep would be the best thing we could ever ask for. That aspect of SN is what scares me the most, it makes me feel ill thinking thats what it does. Of course, people who are good to go on CTB don't really care about those details...but still. Ugh... why can't this shit be easier.

Just give me legal assisted suicide please ffs.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Bless you @AJ95

 

[HelloHell]

I enjoyed reading your posts, AJ95. Thank you and i'm sorry i'm too late to say godbye.
I wish you had a peaceful and painless journey and you are at eternal peace now

 

[Meditation guide]

This was one time where no one came back the next day under her account.

 

[SpinningSong]

Just a thought, since cops were at her door sometime before, posting this thread was quite dangerous in my opinion. Especially since she did it at home

 

[yetme]

She always seemed like a nice person. RIP(

 

[Breadbfra]

I wish I entered this site sooner. I'm so sorry I couldn't give a salute to you.
I hope your passigg was peaceful, I loved seeing you in the chat.

 

[Deathwish1968]

RIP

 

[opiatedreamz]

I hope you passed safely, love. <3 RIP.

 

[rt1989526]

This was one time where no one came back the next day under her account.

Cops and her family were already aware she's on this site. They probably lurk/lurked as guests

 

[Meditation guide]

Cops and her family were already aware she's on this site. They probably lurk/lurked as guests

Wasn't she at home when she did it?

 

[rt1989526]

Wasn't she at home when she did it?

My understanding is yes

 

[Quinlor]

Wasn't she at home when she did it?

I think she was in home, unfortunately, because she mentioned a brother. So sad.

 

[Meditation guide]

My understanding is yes

? I don't think they were watching her posts or if they were they would have stopped her. I guess they could have simply read these posts after it happened since they knew of her online activities.