The USA is such a fucked up country and "experts" wonder why suicides have gone up

[CatLove56]

Especially this year. Telling people to stay home and don't work while giving a lousy $1200 then saying fuck off. Sure plenty got unemployment but plenty did not. If we had just done UBI everybody except the absolute essential people could stay home and this virus would have been under control. Working makes me absolutely suicidal I hate busting my ass to make some cock sucker richer and barely being able to live. I know I need to order some n because one of these days I'm going to be tired of and seeing how pathetic my country is with it's ass backwards ways.

/rant

 

[Kat!]

We're all MK Ultra victims. Whether we like it or not.

 

[Ghost2211]

Yeah the stimulus check was all well and good but then we all found out it was supposed to last us for like nine months. Too bad it wasn't even one months rent.

 

[next-season .?]

man u are in the greatest country in the world just try one month in my country beleive me u will appreciate evry seconde in ur country i wish i was americain fuck my luck

 

[puppy9]

I hate busting my ass to make some cock sucker richer

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

man u are in the greatest country in the world just try one month in my country beleive me u will appreciate evry seconde in ur country i wish i was americain fuck my luck

I would't trade my citizenship for USA citizenship even if they pay me
Israel

 

[Meditation guide]

Especially this year. Telling people to stay home and don't work while giving a lousy $1200 then saying fuck off. Sure plenty got unemployment but plenty did not. If we had just done UBI everybody except the absolute essential people could stay home and this virus would have been under control. Working makes me absolutely suicidal I hate busting my ass to make some cock sucker richer and barely being able to live. I know I need to order some n because one of these days I'm going to be tired of and seeing how pathetic my country is with it's ass backwards ways.

/rant

How it is fucked up is that the uneducated and uninformed back a so called leader who doesn't lead. If we had the right kind of leadership early in the pandemic we wouldn't have this massive crises.

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

While I don't agree it's a bad country I will defend your right to say it. How it is fucked up is that the uneducated and uninformed back a so called leader who doesn't lead.

No free healthcare. No paid maternity leave. How in the world it can be good, this is backwards. There's much more bad things about USA.
There are so many more nice countries to live comfortably.

 

[Ghost2211]

man u are in the greatest country in the world just try one month in my country beleive me u will appreciate evry seconde in ur country i wish i was americain fuck my luck

I won't pretend like this is the worst country ever because I have enough sense to know that a lot of people have it harder than we do, but this is by far not the greatest country. Hollywood and the news like to paint this beautiful idealistic dream picture of what America is, but it's all propaganda and lies. Our government lets many of our people live in terrible conditions even when the country has enough money to provide for everybody. It's disgusting how we treat immigrants, and God help you if you're anything but a white male. Don't get me wrong I'm grateful to have been born somewhere where I know I can put food on the table, but it makes me sad to see that the world still thinks this country is great.

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

Someone who was the granddaughter of slaves made herself into a billionaire. All by herself with no help.

Someone who was raised by a single mother with no help from a father and had to get food stamps to survive as a child ended up graduating at the top of his class from Harvard and becoming president.

These are examples of what USA makes possible for its citizens.

Anyone in the country who is a citizen can do this.

How that is unique for the USA?

Thank you btw you reminded me that there's no free education for everyone in the US

 

[next-season .?]

I would't trade my citizenship for USA citizenship even if they pay me
Israel

ur country is pretty good i live in tunisia so u can understand haw fuck up the place is

 

[Meditation guide]

It's incredibly rude to slam someone's country btw. I hope not everyone is so rude.

How that is unique for the USA?

Thank you btw you reminded me that there's no free education for everyone in the US

Here you go ungrateful person who's country gets billions of dollars in aid from the USA:

What you call a "fucked up country" financially supports your country!

 

[esse_est_percipi]

and God help you if you're anything but a white male

Really? Then why are so many working class white males on opioids and killing themselves in record numbers.

 

[Deleted member 8782]

ur country is pretty good i live in tunisia so u can understand haw fuck up the place is

Man, hearing everyone complain about how bad the US is must feel like such a slap in the face to the 80% of the world who actually live in terrible countries. I guess most people on this forum are from the first world, and don't know what global poverty, crime, and corruption actually looks like. Sorry bud.

 

[Ghost2211]

Really? Then why are so many working class white males on opioids and killing themselves in record numbers. Please don't start with the identity politics nonsense.

I didn't say it was great for white males. Just better than it is for anyone female or any shade of brown. Life sucks for everyone. Also, you called me out then said don't get started on politics?

 

[Deleted member 23374]

Fuck america.
Being on a suicide forum will only make this slightly bizarre. I'm worried about humanity.
Besides the problem with any nation is those who rule and their claim to be the people.
The specific problem with america has always been the white male.

 

[next-season .?]

Man, hearing everyone complain about how bad the US is must feel like such a slap in the face to the 80% of the world who actually live in terrible countries. I guess most people on this forum are from the first world, and don't know what global poverty, crime, and corruption actually looks like. Sorry bud.

thank u

 

[Deleted member 23374]

That's a little bit simplistic but yeh. But that's not just in America, pretty much the world.

Thank you for that clarification, i do admittedly lessen the severity of the problem by way of omission.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

The specific problem with america has always been the white male.

White males are part of the history of america. America was founded by a large proportion of white males.
Can you elaborate on how 'white males' are such a 'problem'?

 

[Ghost2211]

Man, hearing everyone complain about how bad the US is must feel like such a slap in the face to the 80% of the world who actually live in terrible countries. I guess most people on this forum are from the first world, and don't know what global poverty, crime, and corruption actually looks like. Sorry bud.

Everyone's suffering is valid. Just because this country has the potential for good life doesn't mean anyone has it. We have slums and homelessness too. we have poverty and poor mental health services. It's really not reasonable to say we have it good because we are in America.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

It's not my place to criticize the USA, but I do think that Scandinavian countries are more 'advanced' in terms of their social policies and concern for the general wellbeing and economic integration of all citizens.

 

[Deleted member 23374]

Can you elaborate on how 'white males' are such a 'problem'?

The adherence to that very question. You're not owed an explaination.

 

[Deleted member 8782]

Everyone's suffering is valid. Just because this country has the potential for good life doesn't mean anyone has it. We have slums and homelessness too. we have poverty and poor mental health services. It's really not reasonable to say we have it good because we are in America.

Yeah I think you missed the point of my comment because I didn't say any of that. I certainly did not dismiss anyone's suffering. If you think the slums and homelessness are bad in the US, you might be shocked to learn about the standards of living in non-rich countries. They'll laugh at you complaining about mental health services - those practically don't exist in poor countries.

Anyways, not looking to argue. Just agreeing with our Tunisian friend. This existence is highly unequal.

 

[Ghost2211]

Yeah I think you missed the point of my comment because I didn't say any of that. I certainly did not dismiss anyone's suffering. If you think the slums and homelessness are bad in the US, you might be shocked to learn about the standards of living in non-rich countries. They'll laugh at you complaining about mental health services - those practically don't exist in poor countries.

Anyways, not looking to argue. Just agreeing with our Tunisian friend. This existence is highly unequal.

Just kinda ironic since I'll end up ctb since disabled people aren't cared about or provided for in this country, so I'll be homeless and forgotten. Good thing I'm in America though.

 

[Deleted member 23374]

That's a bit of a cop out. If you're not prepared to back up your claims, you shouldn't make such sweeping judgements about a whole group of people.

I live the fact, i don't need to make a claim.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Comments on this thread remind me of the occasional bitter and negating "how dare you think you're miserable enough for suicide compared to me" comments.

I'm also reminded of a thread I posted trying to work out stuff about my parents' abuse; another member commented she only wished she'd been abused like I was. Like I'm supposed to feel chagrined?? Wt-everloving-f? Just, no.

Seriously, is there any government that doesn't mindfuck and mistreat its citizens?

I'm from the US. I got sick of the governmental and cultural BS. I moved to Guatemala, I moved to Mexico. Yes, the governments are worse and the conditions are worse and there are less opportunities for citizens, but it didn't make me want to run back in tears and apologize to the US and give it a big ol' hug of reconciliation. Some abusers are worse than others, that doesn't make a lesser abuser any less of an abuser. Nobody's shitting on another victim who has it worse by complaining about their own gaslighting and other forms of victimization. Just, no.

 

[Gnip]

I don't hold the United States itself responsible for my situation. I had a cruel, stupid, evil angry bullying father with his rotten relatives, then was trapped in a weird little hellhole of a small New England town with stupid, cruel and evil bullying teachers and a stupid, evil, ignorant and cruel elementary school principal. It wouldn't have mattered what country that happened in, I was screwed.

Today, I have a bitch baby brat of a bossy sister who is also a POS, and unfortunately, she survived her bout of uterine cancer several years ago, so she continues to also poison my life. (I keep hoping she'll die of a heart attack, cancer, or killed by a drunk driver.)

Given a decent chance, the United States might indeed be the best country on Earth to live in, but no place is good when one is surrounded by nobody but low minded and ignorant low lives who personify the axiom "Misery loves company." I was raised by miserable closed minded idiots. I hate that my psyche was deliberately poisoned by these creatures.

Success for me begins with being asked my name, answering that question, and having a polygraph prove I am lying. Then, answering the question again with a fictitious reply, and have the polygraph prove I am telling the truth with no possibility of error. After I CTB, that might become reality. Anybody who does not want me to CTB has no choice but to outcompete that. Prove through DNA testing that the identity I am supposed to have had all my life is entirely false.

 

[profoundexperience]

Life sucks for everyone.

Truer words were never spoken. That's why I'm here (on SS).

Although it's clearly worse for some... I don't think life/existence is a good/acceptable thing for anyone.

If you think the slums and homelessness are bad in the US, you might be shocked to learn about the standards of living in non-rich countries.

Yes. As an example, try this on for size...

I'm not trying to say, "You think you have it bad... look at this."

I'm saying, "We all live in a world where stuff like this happens (regularly)... and it's unacceptable. Life itself is unacceptable and irredeemable."

And yes, that's human poop... there's a whole lot of poop in this documentary.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

I live the fact, i don't need to make a claim.

Ok. Well, I'm sorry about your situation, whatever it is. This world is a pile of shit for many people.
Would you also be prepared to say that the specific problem about Iran is the persian male, Japan the japanese male, China the chinese male, Iraq the arabic male, Nigeria the black male, and Israel the jewish male?

I'm just wondering if your grievance is more related to ethnicity, or to gender.

 

[NodusTollens]

Just kinda ironic since I'll end up ctb since disabled people aren't cared about or provided for in this country, so I'll be homeless and forgotten. Good thing I'm in America though.

This.

I'm in damn near the same boat. Gotta love being born in the West, means we don't don't deserve sympathy/empathy.

This thread definitely took a turn...