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Well That really sucks. Any possible withdrawal issues?
I'll need to wait and see if that happens. Since there's no chance of me self-harming at home, the only thing I need to do is not be completely useless till then. Should be doable.
 
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I'm more ambitious than you, 傻土豆。

Hey @Epsilon0 , lookie here:
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The nurse @Underscore just called in yelling: CODE BLUE!!!!!!
More like Code Brown!
 
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That bad, huh?


I read The Da Vinci code when it came, and I could not put it down. It was my first literary encounter with a film script, hence the fascination.

:pfff:
 
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Jesus, being without meds is a fucking spiralling rollercoaster.
 
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Jesus, being without meds is a fucking spiralling rollercoaster.


So, I gather you ran out of meds. I feel really sorry for you! It's so utterly unfair that not all people on this planet have access to health care.

What can I say? Hang in there!
 
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Eeeek! How? What?
I don't remember. I never do. And I didn't start writing until it was too late, so my notebooks no use.
And since I'm at home, there's no scars either.
I think I might have posted some stuff in this thread and deleted it immediately. It's hazy.

So, I gather you ran out of meds. I feel really sorry for you! It's so utterly unfair that not all people on this planet have access to health care.

What can I say? Hang in there!
Thanks, it means a lot. It's nothing, really. As my creative writing teacher says, the most memorable experieces are the most real ones. I don't remember any of this.
 
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I don't remember. I never do. And I didn't start writing until it was too late, so my notebooks no use.
And since I'm at home, there's no scars either.
I think I might have posted some stuff in this thread and deleted it immediately. It's hazy.


Thanks, it means a lot. It's nothing, really. As my creative writing teacher says, the most memorable experieces are the most real ones. I don't remember any of this.


Creative writing sounds nice. Are you good at it?
 
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Creative writing sounds nice. Are you good at it?
Depends. There's some stuff that comes out right. Most stuff doesn't.

I've tried writing a short story based on CTBing. It's currently a half finished Google Doc. And I've tried writing poetry about what I'm thinking in the spirals, but it just comes off as self-indgulgent angst. Most of my stories (or attempts at them) are based on incompleteness, pain and loss.
 
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Depends. There's some stuff that comes out right. Most stuff doesn't.

I've tried writing a short story based on CTBing. It's currently a half finished Google Doc. And I've tried writing poetry about what I'm thinking in the spirals, but it just comes off as self-indgulgent angst. Most of my stories (or attempts at them) are based on incompleteness, pain and loss.


Most great stories ever written deal with the same topics :heh:
 
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Depends. There's some stuff that comes out right. Most stuff doesn't.

I've tried writing a short story based on CTBing. It's currently a half finished Google Doc. And I've tried writing poetry about what I'm thinking in the spirals, but it just comes off as self-indgulgent angst. Most of my stories (or attempts at them) are based on incompleteness, pain and loss.
I've tried writing a novel. I have the characters and scenes in my head along with the plot. It's penning realistic dialogue that defeats me. There is such a craft to the grammer and getting it right really makes a difference to authenticity. I wish I'd paid more attention in English lessons.
 
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I you're not married to the topic in your poetry about the spirals, and instead just want to be inspired to write a good poem, you can take just one word, line, or concept, and use that to inspire something totally unrelated to the subject.
 
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A good writer is either a natural born talent, or someone who was mastered the art of writing through a lot of practice.

Usually it is in the former category that you find the so-called literary geniuses.

I don't think English classes would have helped you one bit @Underscore

However, I do think that given your vast life experience, your numerous jobs and all the problems you have gone through, that you have many good stories in you.
 
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A good writer is either a natural born talent, or someone who was mastered the art of writing through a lot of practice.

Usually it is in the former category that you find the so-called literary geniuses.

I don't think English classes would have helped you one bit @Underscore

However, I do think that given your vast life experience, your numerous jobs and all the problems you have gone through, that you have many good stories in you.
I was a talented artist in my youth, but in my arrogance, I let it slide and didn't practice. I knew I was good, so why should I?
My brother was arguably not as talented as me, but he's spent his entire life training and practicing and learning the craft.
Now his artwork in any medium is excellent. He far surpass me.
Talent is worthless without application and learning the craft will only get you so far without inspiration.
Unless you are Van Gogh.
 
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I've tried writing a novel. I have the characters and scenes in my head along with the plot. It's penning realistic dialogue that defeats me. There is such a craft to the grammer and getting it right really makes a difference to authenticity. I wish I'd paid more attention in English lessons.

Why not record yourself speaking the dialogue as you imagine it, then writing what you recorded? Then when you've written it, record yourself reading it out loud and listen to the recording to see if it's authentic.

After that, very little use of "s/he said" is needed. Action will tell who's speaking, as well as reveal things about their character, the location, etc., in other words, showing rather than telling.

Here's an example off the top of my head:

While he prattled on, still looking at the scene beyond the screen door, she rolled up a newspaper and smacked the table with a thwack that made him startle around to see her grimace.

"Go on then, love," she said as she slouched forward. She pursed her wrinkled lips and puffed a dead fly off the table.

He cleared his throat, readjusted his posture to a more square-shouldered erectness than when he'd started lecturing her, and began pacing the strip of linoleum between the sink and the door, the soles of his just-shined shoes setting a brisk cadence for his speech, each pass a sentence.

"My good dear, it makes no difference what that brainless twat said to you. One only has to consider..."
 
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I was a talented artist in my youth, but in my arrogance, I let it slide and didn't practice. I knew I was good, so why should I?
My brother was arguably not as talented as me, but he's spent his entire life training and practicing and learning the craft.
Now his artwork in any medium is excellent. He far surpass me.
Talent is worthless without application and learning the craft will only get you so far without inspiration.
Unless you are Van Gogh.


All great writers (or other artists) labour intensivly. The idea that you just sit down and create something is absurd. The muse will have her blood sacrifice!
Why not record yourself speaking the dialogue as you imagine it, then writing what you recorded? Then when you've written it, record yourself reading it out loud and listen to the recording to see if it's authentic.

After that, very little use of "s/he said" is needed. Action will tell who's speaking, as well as reveal things about their character, the location, etc., in other words, showing rather than telling.

Here's an example off the top of my head:

While he prattled on, still looking at the scene beyond the screen door, she rolled up a newspaper and smacked the table with a thwack that made him startle around to see her grimace.

"Go on then, love," she said as she slouched forward. She pursed her wrinkled lips and puffed a dead fly off the table.

He cleared his throat, readjusted his posture to a more square-shouldered erectness than when he'd started lecturing her, and began pacing the strip of linoleum between the sink and the door, the soles of his just-shined shoes setting a brisk cadence for his speech, each pass a sentence.

"My good dear, it makes no difference what that brainless twat said to you. One only has to consider..."

I am officially taking my coat and clearing the room for @GoodPersonEffed who obviously teaches a creative writing class.
 
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Why not record yourself speaking the dialogue as you imagine it, then writing what you recorded? Then when you've written it, record yourself reading it out loud and listen to the recording to see if it's authentic.

After that, very little use of "s/he said" is needed. Action will tell who's speaking, as well as reveal things about their character, the location, etc., in other words, showing rather than telling.

Here's an example off the top of my head:

While he prattled on, still looking at the scene beyond the screen door, she rolled up a newspaper and smacked the table with a thwack that made him startle around to see her grimace.

"Go on then, love," she said as she slouched forward. She pursed her wrinkled lips and puffed a dead fly off the table.

He cleared his throat, readjusted his posture to a more square-shouldered erectness than when he'd started lecturing her, and began pacing the strip of linoleum between the sink and the door, the soles of his just-shined shoes setting a brisk cadence for his speech, each pass a sentence.

"My good dear, it makes no difference what that brainless twat said to you. One only has to consider..."
Interesting idea. I tried something similar. And also doing away with any 'he said' etc but that just got confusing.
The easiest novels to read, the use of clever grammer is unnoticeable unless you are looking for it.
For example, various ways of replacing 'he said'...
He agreed, he argued, he snorted, he continued...and knowing where to put these or just leave them out for quick exchanges of dialogue.
It's fascinating and I started taking notes.
Maybe I should actually do a course as the damn book is written in my head and I even have a talented editor, it's just the mechanics.
I actually like granularity and texture in things, so I'd want to mix what you suggested with some quicker exchanges and more conventional dialogue too.
I think the variability makes things more interesting.
 
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Would you like to tell us what it is about? Or would you rather not divulge the plot?
 
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I you're not married to the topic in your poetry about the spirals, and instead just want to be inspired to write a good poem, you can take just one word, line, or concept, and use that to inspire something totally unrelated to the subject.
I understand that concept, but it's so hard for me to write anything except when I'm in that frame of mind. The rest of the time, I just keep editing myself. Case in point - I rewrote this reply about 5 times. Writing poetry when I'm not suffocating in a mire of chaotic thoughts just feels pointless to me. Not having any clear memories of life to draw on doesn't help.

I've found it easier to write stories as games. That's essentially what that half-finished Google Doc is -an interactive text game. But the second-person framework is one I feel works for me. But games take so much effort to make...
 
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I am officially taking my coat and clearing the room for @GoodPersonEffed who obviously tesches a creative writing class.

I could teach one. I've taken tons of creative writing classes, and have a flair for editing as a result of the learning as well as the group constructive criticisms that were part of every class.
 
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You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
A fish hook
An open eye


Margret Atwood
 
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Would you like to tell us what it is about? Or would you rather not divulge the plot?
Nah its too weird and confusing. Like Twin Peaks but weirder, shades of the Dark Tower. A surreal urban fantasy.
Set in a random town that no one can leave with ensemble characters of very unusual nature and some supernatural stuff linked to the protagonist.
Lol the usual.
Off topic but here, I always liked this...
 
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