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- Dec 27, 2020
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From Clumsy Ignorance to Criminal Activity
In November, 2022, Tantacul posted on this website, ostensibly to express grief over an underage member who took his own life. I sympathised with his situation at the time because I happen to agree with some legitimate criticisms of the site. Simply, I believe it can and should be made better in light of the seriousness of the subject matter. However, it was soon apparent that Tantacrul was not serious about engaging respectfully and he was subsequently banned.
He immediately began plotting his hard-hitting vengeance. Subsequently, he used the full might of his substantial YouTube platform to release a video with the intention of attacking our community. The many flaws of his misleading narrative have been covered elsewhere.
Statistics as of the Time of Writing
As of June, 2024, the video has 5.4 million views and is still being actively promoted on Tantacrul's main page.
According to two separate polls conducted on this website, a total of 1,911 respondents reported being sent to this website as a direct result of Tantacrul's video.
Note: there is the possibility of certain individuals responding to both polls, which would reduce the number below 1,911. However, it is also statistically true that the overwhelming majority of people do not participate in such polls and may not even sign up as members when using the website. I do not have access to the website data that would show the overwhelming correlation between the Tantacrul video and increased website traffic here, but this would be the real smoking gun.
The next problem is that teenagers and young adults are Tantacrul's primary viewer demographic. Hence, this was a massive case of Streisand Effect.
Blood-stained Money
Thus, a stupid man with a cult following has made a highly profitable video purportedly to avenge one of his users committing suicide and/or his own ban from the website. The video has evidently led thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of young people here and substantially altered the Sanctioned Suicide demographics.
The purported fantasy of censoring the free speech of suicidal people on the internet is an unrealistic solution, and information on methods is widely available elsewhere, including Wikipedia. However, heavily promoting these communities, even under the guise of defaming them, is clearly irresponsible to any reasonable person.
There is no way of knowing whether dozens or hundreds of children will have died as a direct result of Tantacrul's money-making ego trip. But each one is a real person with a real family. By his own logic, this website 'causes' suicide. So why would he not retract the video when he can see that is sending streams of people here?
Why am I speaking out?
I am an older person who has been on this website since the earlier days when the typical user was in an advanced stage of suicidal ideation. This community was not particularly easy to find but was a smaller, more intimate community of unequivocally suicidal people.
I have interacted with a selection of newer members. In my experience, many of them are youth who have experienced hardships such as dysfunctional families, mental health concerns and lack of direction in life. My opinion is that most of the struggling young people Tantacrul sent here need and want mentoring so they can begin to unpack the grievances of their life situations, not to be sent here to end their lives.
As someone with a strong parental instinct, I am disgusted by Tantacrul's immoral conduct.
Tantacrul, the Butcher of YouTube
Given society's status quo, suicidal people must hide in fear of involuntary mental health treatment, incarceration, legal ramifications for possessing substances like Nembutal and more. I am no exception. Our lack of voice makes us an easy target for bullies. However, to wider society, this should not excuse Tantacrul's mass-promotion of suicide content to children and teenagers.
If even one parent affected by Tantacrul's reckless conduct is willing to take legal action, I have done my best with this post to share information that would help you:
1) Persuade YouTube to delete remove the offending video which has been proven beyond reasonable doubt to be irresponsible and deadly.
2) Prosecute Tantacrul for any and all possible depraved indifference murders, and perhaps his profits should be going to families of the deceased instead.
Thank you for your time.
In November, 2022, Tantacul posted on this website, ostensibly to express grief over an underage member who took his own life. I sympathised with his situation at the time because I happen to agree with some legitimate criticisms of the site. Simply, I believe it can and should be made better in light of the seriousness of the subject matter. However, it was soon apparent that Tantacrul was not serious about engaging respectfully and he was subsequently banned.
He immediately began plotting his hard-hitting vengeance. Subsequently, he used the full might of his substantial YouTube platform to release a video with the intention of attacking our community. The many flaws of his misleading narrative have been covered elsewhere.
Statistics as of the Time of Writing
As of June, 2024, the video has 5.4 million views and is still being actively promoted on Tantacrul's main page.
According to two separate polls conducted on this website, a total of 1,911 respondents reported being sent to this website as a direct result of Tantacrul's video.
Note: there is the possibility of certain individuals responding to both polls, which would reduce the number below 1,911. However, it is also statistically true that the overwhelming majority of people do not participate in such polls and may not even sign up as members when using the website. I do not have access to the website data that would show the overwhelming correlation between the Tantacrul video and increased website traffic here, but this would be the real smoking gun.
The next problem is that teenagers and young adults are Tantacrul's primary viewer demographic. Hence, this was a massive case of Streisand Effect.
Blood-stained Money
Thus, a stupid man with a cult following has made a highly profitable video purportedly to avenge one of his users committing suicide and/or his own ban from the website. The video has evidently led thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of young people here and substantially altered the Sanctioned Suicide demographics.
The purported fantasy of censoring the free speech of suicidal people on the internet is an unrealistic solution, and information on methods is widely available elsewhere, including Wikipedia. However, heavily promoting these communities, even under the guise of defaming them, is clearly irresponsible to any reasonable person.
There is no way of knowing whether dozens or hundreds of children will have died as a direct result of Tantacrul's money-making ego trip. But each one is a real person with a real family. By his own logic, this website 'causes' suicide. So why would he not retract the video when he can see that is sending streams of people here?
Why am I speaking out?
I am an older person who has been on this website since the earlier days when the typical user was in an advanced stage of suicidal ideation. This community was not particularly easy to find but was a smaller, more intimate community of unequivocally suicidal people.
I have interacted with a selection of newer members. In my experience, many of them are youth who have experienced hardships such as dysfunctional families, mental health concerns and lack of direction in life. My opinion is that most of the struggling young people Tantacrul sent here need and want mentoring so they can begin to unpack the grievances of their life situations, not to be sent here to end their lives.
As someone with a strong parental instinct, I am disgusted by Tantacrul's immoral conduct.
Tantacrul, the Butcher of YouTube
Given society's status quo, suicidal people must hide in fear of involuntary mental health treatment, incarceration, legal ramifications for possessing substances like Nembutal and more. I am no exception. Our lack of voice makes us an easy target for bullies. However, to wider society, this should not excuse Tantacrul's mass-promotion of suicide content to children and teenagers.
If even one parent affected by Tantacrul's reckless conduct is willing to take legal action, I have done my best with this post to share information that would help you:
1) Persuade YouTube to delete remove the offending video which has been proven beyond reasonable doubt to be irresponsible and deadly.
2) Prosecute Tantacrul for any and all possible depraved indifference murders, and perhaps his profits should be going to families of the deceased instead.
Thank you for your time.
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