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Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
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I know it will be more difficult and increases the risk of vomiting but is it still possible for it to work? Drink more after vomiting? Take way more than needed? If it's a waste of time trying I'm gonna have to resort to full suspension. I've been looking into the tourniquet method but I think I'm doing it wrong probably.
 
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yo_no_soy_el_pollo2

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From what I've read, I wouldn't do it without the antiemetic. Everything else is optional. I'm not sure why the instructions in the PPeH don't say to just take much more to be safe, but I have read some other people speculating that the more you take the more likely your body will try to vomit it up. Which I suppose makes sense. While I do have an acceptable antiemetic, my personal backup method is the "night night" method: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-night-night-method-mega-thread.6834/
 
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Shu

Shu

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Whatever choice you make I wish you well. I wonder if it's possible to me succesful without AE.

Also night-night method seems hard to figure out unless you find the sweet spot which many have trouble locating.
 
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yo_no_soy_el_pollo2

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Whatever choice you make I wish you well. I wonder if it's possible to me succesful without AE.

Also night-night method seems hard to figure out unless you find the sweet spot which many have trouble locating.
Yea I was debating on doing some sort of test run on night-night to see how hard it would be to find the spot. I'm assuming as long as the bags aren't held in place by something that doesn't move when you pass out (e.g. just holding them with hands, no strap or tape), that shouldn't cause any damage. Still a bit squeamish to try though.
 
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peepo

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Yea I was debating on doing some sort of test run on night-night to see how hard it would be to find the spot. I'm assuming as long as the bags aren't held in place by something that doesn't move when you pass out (e.g. just holding them with hands, no strap or tape), that shouldn't cause any damage. Still a bit squeamish to try though.
I wouldn't recommend the night night method. I spent a month trying to find my sweet spot but never could. If you still want to try the night night method then I recommend practicing blacking out using your hands.

I may aslo attempt taking SN without antimetic. You need about 50g to if you want to try. Hey if you fail there is no harm done, well other than the cleanup. That is the beauty of SN.
 
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olkf

olkf

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Jan 21, 2022
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I don't think it is likely to succeed without AE. Seems like a really big risk. People have successful without AE but I don't think that's confirmation you don't need an AE
 
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What I find interesting is, apparently It's very common for people to vomit even with an AE, yet they often still ctb
 
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Foresight

Foresight

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If you start vomiting I doubt you'll be successful at getting much else down.
 
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Gsvko

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Dec 14, 2021
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That's how I'll do it, with painkillers. I expect vomiting ofc, I'll have more prepared. I have a kilo of it lol
 
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Julgran

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Dec 15, 2021
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Perhaps it's possible to roll up a sock into a ball and put it into your mouth, as far back as possible, immediately after drinking the SN, and then swallow the vomit if you throw up. Of course, this doesn't sound too yummy, but maybe it will prevent most of the vomit from entering your mouth. Surely, some of the SN might get stuck in the sock, so it would probably be advisable to take a little more SN than is prescribed.
 
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I think they would be more likely to aspirate their vomit if they put a sock in and then choke to death on it which sounds unpleasant.
 
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JustAMatterOfTime

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Read this thread: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-on-the-forum-as-a-cause-of-sn-failure.47986/
 
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olkf

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Jan 21, 2022
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Perhaps it's possible to roll up a sock into a ball and put it into your mouth, as far back as possible, immediately after drinking the SN, and then swallow the vomit if you throw up. Of course, this doesn't sound too yummy, but maybe it will prevent most of the vomit from entering your mouth. Surely, some of the SN might get stuck in the sock, so it would probably be advisable to take a little more SN than is prescribed.
I always thought of this but what is throw up made up? Would other stuff dulate it?
 
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Julgran

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I always thought of this but what is throw up made up? Would other stuff dulate it?

What do you mean? Anything that you may throw up was already in your stomach.
 
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Someone123

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Taking way more than recommended means having a way higher chance of failing due to vomiting. Some people have ctb without antiemitics, based on posts, but there are otc alternatives than help some.
 
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Depressed Cat

Depressed Cat

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Jan 4, 2022
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As far as SN is concerned, it's the dose that makes the poison. Otherwise, it wouldn't be used so widely in the food industry, in meat curing.

Coming to the topic, SN should theoretically work by itself when taken in an adequate dose, and there are a few examples of people who have caught the bus with SN alone. There are also examples of people who have died of SN poisoning after accidentally ingesting a lethal quantity in their food.

Having said that, it's better to go with the proven method. Adequate fasting and an appropriate dose of an anti-emetic like metoclopramide are recommended. A beta-blocker like propranolol to slow down the heart rate and a pain-killer like paracetamol can also be taken to make the process easier and more peaceful.

Drinking SN alone after a period of fasting with back up glasses ready in case one throws up may work, but I wouldn't bet on it.
 
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Shu

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As far as SN is concerned, it's the dose that makes the poison. Otherwise, it wouldn't be used so widely in the food industry, in meat curing.

Coming to the topic, SN should theoretically work by itself when taken in an adequate dose, and there are a few examples of people who have caught the bus with SN alone. There are also examples of people who have died of SN poisoning after accidentally ingesting a lethal quantity in their food.

Having said that, it's better to go with the proven method. Adequate fasting and an appropriate dose of an anti-emetic like metoclopramide are recommended. A beta-blocker like propranolol to slow down the heart rate and a pain-killer like paracetamol can also be taken to make the process easier and more peaceful.

Drinking SN alone after a period of fasting with back up glasses ready in case one throws up may work, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Why wouldn't you bet on it? Even with or without AE if drink the SN and vomit and drink another glass surely you should absorb enough to CTB? Do you think one would throw all of it up? I'll drink 4 glasses if I have to. I used to do salt water flushes so the taste won't bother much. Even if I keeo throwing up I'll just keep chugging. Eventuallty one would CTB right?
As far as SN is concerned, it's the dose that makes the poison. Otherwise, it wouldn't be used so widely in the food industry, in meat curing.

Coming to the topic, SN should theoretically work by itself when taken in an adequate dose, and there are a few examples of people who have caught the bus with SN alone. There are also examples of people who have died of SN poisoning after accidentally ingesting a lethal quantity in their food.

Having said that, it's better to go with the proven method. Adequate fasting and an appropriate dose of an anti-emetic like metoclopramide are recommended. A beta-blocker like propranolol to slow down the heart rate and a pain-killer like paracetamol can also be taken to make the process easier and more peaceful.

Drinking SN alone after a period of fasting with back up glasses ready in case one throws up may work, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Why wouldn't you bet on it? Even with or without AE if drink the SN and vomit and drink another glass surely you should absorb enough to CTB? Do you think one would throw all of it up? I'll drink 4 glasses if I have to. I used to do salt water flushes so the taste won't bother much. Even if I keeo throwing up I'll just keep chugging. Eventuallty one would CTB right?
 
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onleana

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Nov 19, 2021
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im going to drink SN by itself and after some research im pretty confident that it's going to work if one can manage to drink the second glass after vomiting
 
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Depressed Cat

Depressed Cat

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Jan 4, 2022
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@Hereforeternity and @onleana , yes, SN should theoretically work as the sole ingredient required for CTB.

There have indeed been cases of people who taken SN alone and managed to CTB. Then there are people who died of accidental SN poisoning after eating food containing enough of it.

So there is nothing in theory that suggests taking SN alone won't work as a method. All the other medicines are only to make the process easier.

Yes, vomiting out the SN is the primary concern of whatever way you decide to ingest it, either alone or with other medicines or with food/drink. Not only is it very salty, but the body recognises it as a poison immediately and would want to expel it.

So, if one can manage to drink the SN alone and somehow manage to keep it down, or manage to drink the back up glasses and keep them down after throwing up the first glass, one should be able to CTB.
 
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Solar1703

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Jun 13, 2021
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So far I have planned to ctb by suspension but I'm also considering SN with antiemetics
 
Rabhen

Rabhen

Isolated Loner
Dec 17, 2021
147
From what I've read, I wouldn't do it without the antiemetic. Everything else is optional. I'm not sure why the instructions in the PPeH don't say to just take much more to be safe, but I have read some other people speculating that the more you take the more likely your body will try to vomit it up. Which I suppose makes sense. While I do have an acceptable antiemetic, my personal backup method is the "night night" method: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-night-night-method-mega-thread.6834/
now if I cannot get fundage for n, I can still leave soon, scary, would rather just take something and go to sleep, maybe not even look like a suicide, this way will definitely look like a suicide, but at this point I don't care what it looks like and actually hope the mother fuckers that did this to me KNOW they were the last straw
 
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Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
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@Hereforeternity and @onleana , yes, SN should theoretically work as the sole ingredient required for CTB.

There have indeed been cases of people who taken SN alone and managed to CTB. Then there are people who died of accidental SN poisoning after eating food containing enough of it.

So there is nothing in theory that suggests taking SN alone won't work as a method. All the other medicines are only to make the process easier.

Yes, vomiting out the SN is the primary concern of whatever way you decide to ingest it, either alone or with other medicines or with food/drink. Not only is it very salty, but the body recognises it as a poison immediately and would want to expel it.

So, if one can manage to drink the SN alone and somehow manage to keep it down, or manage to drink the back up glasses and keep them down after throwing up the first glass, one should be able to CTB.
I wonder if you keep throwing up and keep drinking it if it will eventually work seems like it would have to
 
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Graytaichi

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Feb 14, 2022
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Pphb advise to abort the mission if one throws up. Determine on how much u willimg to ctb.
Backup glass is still posible to ctb,anyway if u fail ,
how long does it take for your blood to turn back to norm???
 
Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,487
Pphb advise to abort the mission if one throws up. Determine on how much u willimg to ctb.
Backup glass is still posible to ctb,anyway if u fail ,
how long does it take for your blood to turn back to norm???
Why abort the mission?
Pphb advise to abort the mission if one throws up. Determine on how much u willimg to ctb.
Backup glass is still posible to ctb,anyway if u fail ,
how long does it take for your blood to turn back to norm???
idk how long it takes
 
nowayout*

nowayout*

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Dec 17, 2021
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Pphb advise to abort the mission if one throws up. Determine on how much u willimg to ctb.
Backup glass is still posible to ctb,anyway if u fail ,
how long does it take for your blood to turn back to norm???
How would anyone that hasn't tried it know that
 
IWTD

IWTD

Who knows.
Jun 24, 2020
124
I know it will be more difficult and increases the risk of vomiting but is it still possible for it to work? Drink more after vomiting? Take way more than needed? If it's a waste of time trying I'm gonna have to resort to full suspension. I've been looking into the tourniquet method but I think I'm doing it wrong probably.
Significant pain is involved
 
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Graytaichi

Wizard
Feb 14, 2022
606
So it would probably be better and quicker to hang than it would be to drink sn by itself

Did someone mention significant pain?
I dont think significant pain if not overdosing. It has 7.6 peaceful rating .
 

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