Sweet death with sn is a lie

[Ethereal Knight]

I have a suspicion that some websites list extreme symptoms for peaceful suicide methods in order to discourage people from doing it.

exactly.

hypoxia is different from suffocation.

what happens is probably the same thing as always: pro-life people using lies to try to dissuade others from killing themselves.

I'm not referring to OP. this type of pro-life propaganda is everywhere and some believe it.

although I do think that the title of this thread is somewhat misleading. SN is not perfect but it's very far from being inhumane. it's even recommended by the Peaceful Pill eHandbook doctor, who says it's "relatively peaceful".

I once saw a person who is a pro-lifer (I know they are pro-life because they told me), telling someone to throw away their SN, because the container had been exposed to a hot day (actually SN is stable and its storage doesn't require a specific room temperature range. room temperature is fine. it just requires a sealed container, so it doesn't oxidize into nitrate after being exposed to air).

don't take SN if you have stomach ulcers, though. this is a contraindication for this method.

it's not OK to lie or to manipulate others. no matter what intentions pro-life people had.

we should always do our own deep research, so we don't fall for ideological propaganda.

So please stick to scientific evidence

you can search for "hypoxia symptoms" and "methemoglobinemia symptoms", or "sodium nitrite poisoning symptoms" (without quotation marks) on pubmed and on the internet.

we know what happens during and after a methemoglobinemia case. it's been known for years.

don't expect researches to do a study in the context of DIY euthanasia, though. there's no financial incentive for that.

I've had my own experience with SN and it was peaceful, I've had shortness of breath and a mild headache but it took less than minutes to pass out, it wasn't uncomfortable and it's still my chosen method among the ones available to me, I don't know other point to this thread unless than scaring people
Of course it isn't the best way out, but it is the one more available and peaceful

I know this guy. he really drank SN. I don't remember if he used propranolol, though. I don't think he did.

if you said that it only took some minutes to pass out, @I need peace, imagine if you had taken propranolol - a drug that blocks the compensatory tachicardia, which provides more oxygen for tissues by making blood circulate faster. with this drug, you'd have passed out even quicker.

 

[Shu]

I made several posts about dangers of SN based on medical articles, some people don't want to believe in it and become angry when see any info about risks.

I think this is how they subconsciously protect themselves from the unpleasant truth.

You also find literally the worst threads that you can you bookmark them and then you constantly share them over and over again. You make the method look as bad as you can. That's how you subconsciously project fear about the method to try to deter people from using it. You're definitely not educating them because if you were trying to educate them you would give them the full scoop and you would also be sharing posts of people that didn't have a bad experience from it and you would also share the stories of the people who did fail and came back and explain their side of the story as well but what you'll do is you'll look for the absolute worst posts and threads that you can and share them.

According to medical articles and posts everybody reacts different.

Of course most people say it was a peaceful experience except for very few but if you see somebody say they had a peaceful experience you're going to come on here and project that negativity out on people again. I definitely see what you're doing and it's not going to work on me buddy. @Judy Garland

 

[Hell-On-Earth]

Even if there's some pain or discomfort I think I can handle that considering it'll be my last few moments on this planet. I wish I could get N but it seems way too risky at the moment. Besides the spreadsheet pthnrdnojvsc posted shows many accounts of SN not causing pain. I'm not going to let this bother me too much.

 

[damaged_soul]

If she experienced abdominal pain, she might not have done a proper regimen including antacids, antiemetics, meto etc.

 

[bubo]

Blowing off your entire head with a shotgun or an explosion is what you're after. Downside is availability, and the aftermath of it.

Incorrect! You will most likely live for a bit even after shooting yourself in the skull (right lower posterior part of the skull to the left upper anterior part of the midface region is the iconic method I've notice.) you will still live for a bit afterwards and it will be *agonizing*
though you specifically say "the entire head" is also incorrect. decapitated your brain still has about 2 minutes of oxygen left and you still have all pain sensors in your body active, which (fun fact) is why in most artwork the behead-er shows the decapitated head to the crowd by lifting it up with his hand to show the crowd the person still alive crying and trying to scream but unable to.

Misinformation like this i've noticed has spread pretty far but it's just not how biology works.

 

[Sniffer]

Does anyone know the correct dose of Olanzapine to replace 10mg meto in Stans Guide?

 

[freelifexit]

You also find literally the worst threads that you can you bookmark them and then you constantly share them over and over again. You make the method look as bad as you can. That's how you subconsciously project fear about the method to try to deter people from using it. You're definitely not educating them because if you were trying to educate them you would give them the full scoop and you would also be sharing posts of people that didn't have a bad experience from it and you would also share the stories of the people who did fail and came back and explain their side of the story as well but what you'll do is you'll look for the absolute worst posts and threads that you can and share them.

Of course most people say it was a peaceful experience except for very few but if you see somebody say they had a peaceful experience you're going to come on here and project that negativity out on people again. I definitely see what you're doing and it's not going to work on me buddy. @Judy Garland

Thank you for your opinion about my behaviour, but I think you overestimate my activity on this forum.

Another champion of the idea that SN is painless and safe. SN is a poison and not Nembutal. According to posts and medical articles, SN can be painful, cause suffocation, and damage organs. It can also be painless, not cause suffocation, and not damage organs. Everyone reacts differently. I think it's a simple enough idea to understand.

But still there are people who believe in the infallibility of SN, just as children believe in Santa Claus. And they get upset like children (crying and stamping their feet) when they are told that SN is not so beautiful.

I think that I will not respond to new comments, as I wrote everything I wanted, and further discussion does not make sense.

 

[Hell-On-Earth]

Thank you for your opinion about my behaviour, but I think you overestimate my activity on this forum.

Another champion of the idea that SN is painless and safe. SN is a poison and not Nembutal. According to posts and medical articles, SN can be painful, cause suffocation, and damage organs. It can also be painless, not cause suffocation, and not damage organs. Everyone reacts differently. I think it's a simple enough idea to understand.

But still there are people who believe in the infallibility of SN, just as children believe in Santa Claus. And they get upset like children (crying and stamping their feet) when they are told that SN is not so beautiful.

I think that I will not respond to new comments, as I wrote everything I wanted, and further discussion does not make sense.

What better option is there for those of us without access to N?

 

[Shu]

Thank you for your opinion about my behaviour, but I think you overestimate my activity on this forum.

Another champion of the idea that SN is painless and safe. SN is a poison and not Nembutal. According to posts and medical articles, SN can be painful, cause suffocation, and damage organs. It can also be painless, not cause suffocation, and not damage organs. Everyone reacts differently. I think it's a simple enough idea to understand.

But still there are people who believe in the infallibility of SN, just as children believe in Santa Claus. And they get upset like children (crying and stamping their feet) when they are told that SN is not so beautiful.

I think that I will not respond to new comments, as I wrote everything I wanted, and further discussion does not make sense.

You do is sit there and fear monger and you only do it with the SN method you don't do it with the 100 other methods out there you only focus on this one method only the one method that is the best option for most of us here is the only one that you constantly focus on and fear monger about. You don't focus on the dangers of hanging you don't focus on the dangers of a gunshot you don't focus on the dangers of taking a bunch of pills you don't focus on the dangers of anything else but SN. I don't see how you think fear mongering or quote on quote educating people is going to change anything at all besides make people worry and put them in an even worse spot especially people who are trying to leave. "Oh I'm jUsT eDucAtInG tHeM" where is the source of the medical article that stated suffocation? Because I'm really interested in learning and I would like to see that thank you. The only reason we're getting upset is because you keep fesr mongering in the guide of educating. Literally the only thing you do is to come on here and fear monger about SN 95% of the time. You're taking the one method that is probably safer than most of them and easier for us to acquire than anything else and only focusing on what's bad about it. We know it's a poison we know the side effects. What would you rather us do tie a rope around our neck and hang from a tree and risk possibly being paralyzed and brain dead for the rest of our life? I just still don't understand your intention behind this.

 

[Theanswer]

You do is sit there and fear monger and you only do it with the SN method you don't do it with the 100 other methods out there you only focus on this one method only the one method that is the best option for most of us here is the only one that you constantly focus on and fear monger about. You don't focus on the dangers of hanging you don't focus on the dangers of a gunshot you don't focus on the dangers of taking a bunch of pills you don't focus on the dangers of anything else but SN. I don't see how you think fear mongering or quote on quote educating people is going to change anything at all besides make people worry and put them in an even worse spot especially people who are trying to leave. "Oh I'm jUsT eDucAtInG tHeM" where is the source of the medical article that stated suffocation? Because I'm really interested in learning and I would like to see that thank you. The only reason we're getting upset is because you keep fesr mongering in the guide of educating. Literally the only thing you do is to come on here and fear monger about SN 95% of the time. You're taking the one method that is probably safer than most of them and easier for us to acquire than anything else and only focusing on what's bad about it. We know it's a poison we know the side effects. What would you rather us do tie a rope around our neck and hang from a tree and risk possibly being paralyzed and brain dead for the rest of our life? I just still don't understand your intention behind this.

Agree 100% @Shu. I'd also like to add that I belong to another highly respected forum that is extremely experienced with SN and there has NEVER EVER been reports of major vomiting, suffocation, brain damage, horrible suffering...with SN. Vomiting, sure some of the time but mostly only a bit-not major painful vomiting. Ain't naming the forum because of the loads of LE, prolifers here, but would think you all know the forum I'm talking about. If not ,please do not ask me. Further, the qualified goodbye threads here that mention vomiting, as far as I recall, just mentioned vomited plus those folks were unconscious or nearly so during the heavy breathing, gasping, death rattle...all in all pretty typical of dying.

 

[tser1073]

y all are some serious beggars being choosers at this point, like I'm sure we'd all benefit from having a wand and casting avada kedavra at ourselves or some wild shit but unfortunately all we have is the poor man's sausage preservative and we have to make do

This is the possibly the funniest thing I have EVER read

 

[Shu]

And probably does cause shortness of breath I mean it speeds up your heart rate super fast. I don't think it's going to feel like you're suffocating not like if you have a rope around your neck. I'm trying to picture it as if I just went for a really long jog or something. I don't know anymore but I'm going to have to ignore these threads from now on and stop worrying about it because I'm going to have to go through this experience regardless. Whatever happens, happens.

 

[Theanswer]

Look up hypoxia. It's way different than suffocating.