Dawgmom

Dawgmom

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I find this story interesting because the person wanting suicide is not dealing with physical pain or a deadly disease. The writers could have written a safe story about either of those justifications. Instead, the writers picked justifications that were harder to defend, such as boredom. And boredom seems like a rather taboo justification for suicide.

Overall, I think "Death Wish" is a decent presentation of a debate on suicide for a casual audience.

I love STV to begin with, but this is one of the more difficult episodes for me and I think about it often. I've considered suicide many times in my life (approaching another time, now) and have struggled a lot with an "afterlife". If I believed in that - and not sure I do - I've wondered about this very topic of boredom. I mean, sometimes I think it would be nice if there were a more pleasant place where I could at least reunite with my dogs, the only things I truly love. Maybe that would be "heaven" for me and maybe there would be no such thing as boredom.

Other times I veer more towards this storyline which, if you think about it, is kind of what we face when we consider an exit here. We may not be bored but we just want life to end. So, even as a "Q" who labels his reason as boredom, maybe it's just like saying he's had enough. Boredom is his symptom for wanting to end his suffering.

But, then again, this is a story. And, when I lean in the other direction, I fear there is no such afterlife anyway. We're here and then we're not.

Thanks for sharing.
 
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Sweet emotion

Sweet emotion

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Sep 14, 2019
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Well in real life Robin Williams always sticks out to me because it just shows you that what a person looks like on the outside has absolutely nothing to due with the way they feel on the inside.

And in a movie, it was the suicide of Jackson Maine in A Star is Born. I actually was thinking about it today and singing the songs in my head that were in the movie. I can relate to his character a lot. We both have tinnitus that drives us mad, we both signed and play the guitar, we both are self destructive, we've both urinated ourselves from too many meds. But mine was in a hospital during a ketamine infusion and it's a sedative that they used in the old days to out horses to sleep so I better not hear one word from anyone because I guarantee you'd piss yourself too LMAO. We both felt like a burden. We are good people deep down in our hearts but we have screwed up a lot. And also our opiod addiction. But mine is because I have Complex Regional Pain Syndrome and he just loved to get high. I don't get high even though I should haha. But yeah at the end if the movie I was in tears over his suicide because it felt so personal. And the song at the end. God ripped my heart out. And these are the kind of guys I'm attracted to. Love talented creative musicians who are rough around the edges and sweethearts inside.
 
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takeyourshotfunboy

takeyourshotfunboy

Smile...
Oct 11, 2019
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Harold & Maude probably formed my opinion of suicide as as a whole. Thought she was a double badass for making it clear she was dying on her own terms. (Though I'd rather not do it in my 80s...)

Seconding the suicide booths in Futurama, though.
My parents hated that movie but I love it
 
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ArtsyDrawer

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Nov 8, 2018
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Chester Bennington and Robin Williams.
Like, they were happiness in a form of a human, and then one day... Bam. Gone.
It's always the happy, the inspiring ones. What pissed me off is that they weren't talked about much, especially Chester. As soon as he died, though? Suddenly he's the equivalent of Jesus, suddenly his name is everywhere and everyone are sad. Before that? Nobody cares, seemingly.
 
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Done at Fifty

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Feb 19, 2019
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Robin Williams. I wonder if he could have discussed his suicide decision before dying if he would have said that he simply wanted to go as he was getting sick or if he was really depressed and mentally ill as the press said. The press like to say all suicides are the result of mental illness, but maybe its just a rational decision.
 
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Hotsackage

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One where a patient at my local pysch hospital hanged himself with his own shoelaces. Baffling
 
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TheGoodGuy

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Movies:
God Bless America
Falling Down

Celebrities:
Chester Bennington
Robbin Williams
 
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MeltingHeart

MeltingHeart

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Sep 9, 2019
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Same
- in the documentary he was practically crying out for help - like he just needed a damn break- and people kept pushing him- obviously we can never know for sure - but u can't help but feel it could have been prevented - if someone has only just listened to him ( that old classic!) people just don't listen to one another - until it's too damn late!!
Real Life young lady:

Erg so sad
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Robin Williams. I wonder if he could have discussed his suicide decision before dying if he would have said that he simply wanted to go as he was getting sick or if he was really depressed and mentally ill as the press said. The press like to say all suicides are the result of mental illness, but maybe its just a rational decision.
Apparently one of the side effects of his mental deteriotion (not depression but that other thing he had that was a form of dementia-Lewy bodies or something) -can in and of itself cause irrational / impulsive thoughts and behaviours - they think that was a major trigger just so happened to be on top of existing depression.... but just to add I do believe for sure that not all suicides are impulsive but some can certainly be made from a rational decision - as a preference to what their life is or may become.
Anthony Bourdain- I'd just always been a huge fan- was surprised when aftr the fact people had compiled these interview clips & the amount of times he 'joked' about hanging himself in a bathroom- just as he did - was kind of shocking to realise / discover
 
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MeltingHeart

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Her abusive POS father should have died instead of her
Was heartbreaking - she seemed so sweet & intelligent & sprited & looked after her siblings - like she could have thrived if only not in that damn house with those people
 
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JSauter

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Oct 14, 2019
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Ned Vizzini
 
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Dawgmom

Dawgmom

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Oct 23, 2019
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Have you ever seen a suicide in a movie, a game, or otherwise that stayed with you? Perhaps even something that'd be your dream death if it were realistic/accessible?
Gloria (Jane Fonda) in They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Sophie (Meryl Streep) in Sophie's Choice
 
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TimeToBiteTheDust

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Nov 7, 2019
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Christine Chubbuck
 
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Green Destiny

Green Destiny

Life isn't worth the trouble.
Nov 16, 2019
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On the TV series Law & Order SVU one episode always stuck with me. The title of it was called "Painless" where a woman commits suicide through the help of an online friend who also runs her own Suicide Site (Ironic I know) and is also dying of a painful kidney disease. I like to take from this episode that it forces the cast to look at suicide and assisted suicide from different points of view, from the people who are suffering and willing to seek out their own deaths.
 
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Return2Dust

Return2Dust

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Sep 28, 2019
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Marilyn Monroe, Kurt Cobain, Kate Spade. They seemed to have it all and still wanted out.
 
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Daniela

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Feb 23, 2019
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Christine Chubbuck

Oh my God, yes.

Her and Iris Chang

Chang visited "pro-suicide" websites daily during her last weeks. Neither the press nor her parents appear to have picked up on it at all.

Her mother - a microbiologist - blames Big Pharma

Chang researched the crap out of it - before buying a gun, she ensured that California law allowed for people who had mental illnesses in their medical records (she was briefly hospitalized for reactive psychosis) to own firearms.
 
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Daniela

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Feb 23, 2019
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Fanny Wollstonecraft Imlay Godwin

"I have long determined that the best thing I could do was to put an end to the existence of a being whose birth was unfortunate, and whose life has only been a series of pain to those persons who have hurt their health in endeavoring to promote her welfare. Perhaps to hear of my death will give you pain, but you will soon have the blessing of forgetting that such a creature ever existed as [Fanny Godwin]"
 
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Woodnote

Woodnote

Goodbye
Oct 23, 2019
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Etika. I was subscribed to his YouTube channel. Watching him helped me get through some of the darkest days of my life. Forever grateful to him for that. I never would've thought he'd be gone and I'd still be here.
 
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Lotus1818

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Nov 4, 2019
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Etika. I was subscribed to his YouTube channel. Watching him helped me get through some of the darkest days of my life. Forever grateful to him for that. I never would've thought he'd be gone and I'd still be here.
wow i just wanted to mention him. His suicide screwed me up allot. He seemed like such a happy dude. I made small shrine for him after his passing because it was my way of coping.
 
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CyanideSoup

CyanideSoup

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Oct 1, 2019
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Katelyn Nicole Davis and Amanda Todd had a big effect when I was younger. I remember a friend sending the link to the video of Katelyn hanging herself and it's something that has really stuck with me. I don't think I could ever go out that way. Amanda Todd was the first time I found out that I wasn't the only person who wanted to die and that's suicide was a thing.
 
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