Suicide and reincarnation

[sserafim]

I just watched this a few days ago. I have read before that people who "opt out early" are brought back to repeat their lives and everything that happened up to the time they took their lives. I have researched this quite a bit because I want to know as much as I can what happens, not just what I hope will happen. So, hitman it is! (does that count?) But if you want to watch the bit about suicide it starts about 32:36.

Like the exact same life? In a parallel universe or something?

 

[DreamEnd]

I just watched this a few days ago. I have read before that people who "opt out early" are brought back to repeat their lives and everything that happened up to the time they took their lives. I have researched this quite a bit because I want to know as much as I can what happens, not just what I hope will happen. So, hitman it is! (does that count?) But if you want to watch the bit about suicide it starts about 32:36.

Does that mean people with terminal Illness who ctb will have to repeat the terminal illness until natural death? Doesn't sound right

 

[Ashu]

Wdym?

You won't remember, so you won't be you, so in effect you'll just be dead anyway.

 

[sserafim]

You won't remember, so you won't be you, so in effect you'll just be dead anyway.

What if in your next life you somehow remember this life (like via past life regression)? I've tried to remember my past life without success.

 

[DreamEnd]

What if in your next life you somehow remember this life (like via past life regression)? I've tried to remember my past life without success.

If that happens it still wouldn't feel like you because the parts of you that survived death and were reborn made you quite different

 

[sserafim]

If that happens it still wouldn't feel like you because the parts of you that survived death and were reborn made you quite different

What parts survive death and are reborn? The soul? I heard that the soul usually has the same or a similar personality between lives though

 

[TiredOfAllThis]

Or maybe it is all a freaking Matrix

 

[DreamEnd]

What parts survive death and are reborn? The soul? I heard that the soul usually has the same or a similar personality between lives though

Idk. But whatever it is you won't have any connection to your previous lives besides some traits that are so ingrained into you you won't notice them

 

[deathslament]

If it is, I'll end up killing myself again

 

[Smaragdine]

Or maybe it is all a freaking Matrix

I have a problem even conceptualizing what this place could be if it was NOT a matrix.

 

[born_borken]

Hm. What part of us could be reincarnated ? Our "souls" are the result from genes and experiences getting mixed up in our brains.
What decided me on this is the complete change of personality you can go through after brain damage, some medications or dementia.
But yes, this is a very rational view. Maybe I m wrong. I hope not, I am very afraid of the loop thing.

 

[DreamEnd]

Hm. What part of us could be reincarnated ? Our "souls" are the result from genes and experiences getting mixed up in our brains.
What decided me on this is the complete change of personality you can go through after brain damage, some medications or dementia.
But yes, this is a very rational view. Maybe I m wrong. I hope not, I am very afraid of the loop thing.

These things affect your brain in the same way smashing a radio will. The way the signal is transmitted changed but it doesn't remove the source of the signal

 

[divinemistress36]

Or maybe it is all a freaking Matrix

I think that's why Keanu Reeves doesn't age

 

[born_borken]

These things affect your brain in the same way smashing a radio will. The way the signal is transmitted changed but it doesn't remove the source of the signal

I think you're right. But my point was that what we call the 'soul' is the result of electricity in the brain. So if you are born with a different brain, you got a different soul, right ?
Meh, I can imagine we could also postulate your brain is made this way because of your soul. I don't know.

 

[DreamEnd]

I think you're right. But my point was that what we call the 'soul' is the result of electricity in the brain. So if you are born with a different brain, you got a different soul, right ?
Meh, I can imagine we could also postulate your brain is made this way because of your soul. I don't know.

No the essence is always preserved

 

[Esokabat]

I will not be pleased with my stoner 'entity' buddies that convinced me to hop in feet first. "Bruh, like, ur soul will grow so much! U will have a huge soul boner, there are such good lessons trust me 10/10, just put that headset on and go for it and thank me later!"
Slap that fool. And then I will resolve to never, ever do this again.

This was too funny. There is something to it, the planning and logistics are discussed by the entire soul family. But in the end, the decision is by your soul (which has nothing to do with your current human personality. Just for the simple fact that your soul is not human, and doesn't have typical human thoughts). For your soul, a human life is a fleeting moment of illusion, it ends as soon as it starts, physical space and time is not part of our HOME so a Soul with little Earth experience might not realize how long a lifetime can feel on this side if things. Because on the other side, it is a short fleeting moment in the context of eternity. The Soul might sign up for a lot of experiences, it is like signing up a whole bunch of courses at university because you want to progress quickly, and other might warn you that it will end up to be too much, but in the end, it is your Soul's decision. I often remind myself the phrase "even easy lives are hard here" so that hopefully I will remember once I am back HOME not to sign up to too many courses, take it slow, take it easy, because what might appear easy and fast from the other side, on this side can feel too long and too hard. We are not victims. We have chose this. We have chosen this for many possible reasons, maybe we wanted to do too much, maybe we were inexperienced in Earthly human life and underestimated the effort, or we are merely here because someone in a soul group, maybe a buddy of ours, needed us to play a certain role, because this role was needed for the objective of their life. It could be the role of a friend, a family member, it can be someone loving or it can be a villain like a serial killer or abusive partner. Our souls are pure light and love that will put on many clothes, including negative ones, and temporarily we forget our HOME and our magnificence. So what happens if we don't achieve our objective? We can say that many who commit suicide might not fully complete their full objective. We cannot know for sure, only our Soul knows, our human brain has no access to this information. If we only partially achieved out goal, we will likely have subsequent lifetimes with similar challenges prepared, with our decision and collaboration. We are not victims, our Soul is powerful and is a part of God. So normally an uncompleted objective will get completed sooner or later. The key is that we can progress at our pace. So next time you are signing up for Earth courses and from the Love and Light of HOME, it all looks so easy, remember what I often tell myself, so that it becomes me so that I will remember it: "Even easy lives are hard". From a cosmic perspective, there is nothing wrong with suicide. You will be celebrated for coming to Earth school either way. Many Souls never come here. It is one of the hardest schools. There are other schools that are less hard. You will be celebrated joyfully and with admiration just for being brave and coming here. And just from the fact that your Soul came here, against all the warning, shows the type of Soul you have. Almost sure you will be coming here again, with your own will. So when you are at the planning stage, just cool your enthusiasm, don't sign up for the entire curriculum like a total beginner and remember that mantra: "Even easy lives are hard". This way hopefully you will pick a manageable amount of challenges. Existence is based on free will, it has laws and reasons, reality is made out of love and light, God is not a person, you are not a victim of anything or anybody, you just got a bit carried away this time, taking on too much, do better next time. Either way, you will be loved, admired, and celebrated for doing your part and coming to Earth school. I will CTB in less than a year, and I will try my best to take this phrase with me back HOME to remind myself for next time: "Even easy lives are hard" … (and those that don't believe in consciousness outside of the physical body , why do you feel the urge to respond here to every post that you don't believe it. There is a bunch of people that do not believe in this, you are not adding to the quality of the conversation by replying everyone that you don't believe in anything. If you think this makes you Superior or more intelligent or more pragmatic, it does not. Good for you. Now, start your own thread about non-existence and nothing has meaning and wishing not being born. Nobody will convince you otherwise. You are free to believe whatever your poor limited physical brain is able to conjure, you have freedom)

 

[Disappointered]

This was too funny. There is something to it, the planning and logistics are discussed by the entire soul family. But in the end, the decision is by your soul (which has nothing to do with your current human personality. Just for the simple fact that your soul is not human, and doesn't have typical human thoughts). For your soul, a human life is a fleeting moment of illusion, it ends as soon as it starts, physical space and time is not part of our HOME so a Soul with little Earth experience might not realize how long a lifetime can feel on this side if things. Because on the other side, it is a short fleeting moment in the context of eternity. The Soul might sign up for a lot of experiences, it is like signing up a whole bunch of courses at university because you want to progress quickly, and other might warn you that it will end up to be too much, but in the end, it is your Soul's decision. I often remind myself the phrase "even easy lives are hard here" so that hopefully I will remember once I am back HOME not to sign up to too many courses, take it slow, take it easy, because what might appear easy and fast from the other side, on this side can feel too long and too hard. We are not victims. We have chose this. We have chosen this for many possible reasons, maybe we wanted to do too much, maybe we were inexperienced in Earthly human life and underestimated the effort, or we are merely here because someone in a soul group, maybe a buddy of ours, needed us to play a certain role, because this role was needed for the objective of their life. It could be the role of a friend, a family member, it can be someone loving or it can be a villain like a serial killer or abusive partner. Our souls are pure light and love that will put on many clothes, including negative ones, and temporarily we forget our HOME and our magnificence. So what happens if we don't achieve our objective? We can say that many who commit suicide might not fully complete their full objective. We cannot know for sure, only our Soul knows, our human brain has no access to this information. If we only partially achieved out goal, we will likely have subsequent lifetimes with similar challenges prepared, with our decision and collaboration. We are not victims, our Soul is powerful and is a part of God. So normally an uncompleted objective will get completed sooner or later. The key is that we can progress at our pace. So next time you are signing up for Earth courses and from the Love and Light of HOME, it all looks so easy, remember what I often tell myself, so that it becomes me so that I will remember it: "Even easy lives are hard". From a cosmic perspective, there is nothing wrong with suicide. You will be celebrated for coming to Earth school either way. Many Souls never come here. It is one of the hardest schools. There are other schools that are less hard. You will be celebrated joyfully and with admiration just for being brave and coming here. And just from the fact that your Soul came here, against all the warning, shows the type of Soul you have. Almost sure you will be coming here again, with your own will. So when you are at the planning stage, just cool your enthusiasm, don't sign up for the entire curriculum like a total beginner and remember that mantra: "Even easy lives are hard". This way hopefully you will pick a manageable amount of challenges. Existence is based on free will, it has laws and reasons, reality is made out of love and light, God is not a person, you are not a victim of anything or anybody, you just got a bit carried away this time, taking on too much, do better next time. Either way, you will be loved, admired, and celebrated for doing your part and coming to Earth school. I will CTB in less than a year, and I will try my best to take this phrase with me back HOME to remind myself for next time: "Even easy lives are hard" … (and those that don't believe in consciousness outside of the physical body , why do you feel the urge to respond here to every post that you don't believe it. There is a bunch of people that do not believe in this, you are not adding to the quality of the conversation by replying everyone that you don't believe in anything. If you think this makes you Superior or more intelligent or more pragmatic, it does not. Good for you. Now, start your own thread about non-existence and nothing has meaning and wishing not being born. Nobody will convince you otherwise. You are free to believe whatever your poor limited physical brain is able to conjure, you have freedom)

Sounds relatively pleasant and hopeful. I hope I can get to the point of believing it (and that it is true...).

 

[lovedread]

Hi, I have recently been getting worried about this. You see, I have read somewhere that reincarnation is possible and it's random. So if we were born once, it is possible we will be born again but under different circumstances. Now I'm fucking scared cuz I don't wanna reincarnate in some bum fuck nowhere and put myself in an even worse scenario than I am in now(if that's possible). Does anyone have any idea on whether any of it is true or is it complete bullshit?

when i tell you i literally have this thought nearly every time i think about suicide...loool. i think now my life is too horrible for me to care, though. im afraid of god, actually. im afraid that bc im killing myself in a life where im fed and have stable housing and a good amount of money that god will make me a slave in my next life.

 

[DreamEnd]

when i tell you i literally have this thought nearly every time i think about suicide...loool. i think now my life is too horrible for me to care, though. im afraid of god, actually. im afraid that bc im killing myself in a life where im fed and have stable housing and a good amount of money that god will make me a slave in my next life.

Lol that's crazy. I can't stop thinking about this

 

[BlackEyedDog]

Like billions, I come from a family where religion was passed along. But from a young age I felt no connection to a god or gods. When I read the stranger, i was struck by it though couldn't understand it fully until later. it was the absurdity of existence. how i came to be and how things can just happen so to speak and how an action, like life in general, was meaningless but also everything. I do like Sagan's quote, we are all made of star-stuff. For myself, I believe when the lights go out, they simply go out. Though part of me likes to think my atoms will forever sail through the universe.

 

[lovedread]

Why do you think my soul would "ask" to experience Asperger's then? What did I do in my past life to deserve this? It's a curse for me and it's actively holding me back from being a "normal" person or progressing in life. It impacts socialising and communication, which is the basic essence of being human. This condition is causing me so many issues and I think that my life would be so much easier if I didn't have it...

sorry i am not trying to minimize ur pain at all, but maybe youre looking at it in a different way. aspergers is not a curse, the curse is that society is ableist as hell and very neurotypical-centric if that makes sense? maybe ur soul asked to experience ur disability so that you could be an advocate, or experience the oppression firsthand. your disability is not the issue, its the fact that ppl are unwilling to accommodate it. but i do def understand what u mean, ive thought abt certain aspects of myself that way too

This was too funny. There is something to it, the planning and logistics are discussed by the entire soul family. But in the end, the decision is by your soul (which has nothing to do with your current human personality. Just for the simple fact that your soul is not human, and doesn't have typical human thoughts). For your soul, a human life is a fleeting moment of illusion, it ends as soon as it starts, physical space and time is not part of our HOME so a Soul with little Earth experience might not realize how long a lifetime can feel on this side if things. Because on the other side, it is a short fleeting moment in the context of eternity. The Soul might sign up for a lot of experiences, it is like signing up a whole bunch of courses at university because you want to progress quickly, and other might warn you that it will end up to be too much, but in the end, it is your Soul's decision. I often remind myself the phrase "even easy lives are hard here" so that hopefully I will remember once I am back HOME not to sign up to too many courses, take it slow, take it easy, because what might appear easy and fast from the other side, on this side can feel too long and too hard. We are not victims. We have chose this. We have chosen this for many possible reasons, maybe we wanted to do too much, maybe we were inexperienced in Earthly human life and underestimated the effort, or we are merely here because someone in a soul group, maybe a buddy of ours, needed us to play a certain role, because this role was needed for the objective of their life. It could be the role of a friend, a family member, it can be someone loving or it can be a villain like a serial killer or abusive partner. Our souls are pure light and love that will put on many clothes, including negative ones, and temporarily we forget our HOME and our magnificence. So what happens if we don't achieve our objective? We can say that many who commit suicide might not fully complete their full objective. We cannot know for sure, only our Soul knows, our human brain has no access to this information. If we only partially achieved out goal, we will likely have subsequent lifetimes with similar challenges prepared, with our decision and collaboration. We are not victims, our Soul is powerful and is a part of God. So normally an uncompleted objective will get completed sooner or later. The key is that we can progress at our pace. So next time you are signing up for Earth courses and from the Love and Light of HOME, it all looks so easy, remember what I often tell myself, so that it becomes me so that I will remember it: "Even easy lives are hard". From a cosmic perspective, there is nothing wrong with suicide. You will be celebrated for coming to Earth school either way. Many Souls never come here. It is one of the hardest schools. There are other schools that are less hard. You will be celebrated joyfully and with admiration just for being brave and coming here. And just from the fact that your Soul came here, against all the warning, shows the type of Soul you have. Almost sure you will be coming here again, with your own will. So when you are at the planning stage, just cool your enthusiasm, don't sign up for the entire curriculum like a total beginner and remember that mantra: "Even easy lives are hard". This way hopefully you will pick a manageable amount of challenges. Existence is based on free will, it has laws and reasons, reality is made out of love and light, God is not a person, you are not a victim of anything or anybody, you just got a bit carried away this time, taking on too much, do better next time. Either way, you will be loved, admired, and celebrated for doing your part and coming to Earth school. I will CTB in less than a year, and I will try my best to take this phrase with me back HOME to remind myself for next time: "Even easy lives are hard" … (and those that don't believe in consciousness outside of the physical body , why do you feel the urge to respond here to every post that you don't believe it. There is a bunch of people that do not believe in this, you are not adding to the quality of the conversation by replying everyone that you don't believe in anything. If you think this makes you Superior or more intelligent or more pragmatic, it does not. Good for you. Now, start your own thread about non-existence and nothing has meaning and wishing not being born. Nobody will convince you otherwise. You are free to believe whatever your poor limited physical brain is able to conjure, you have freedom)

yes. i agree so much. i hope this is true. i hope i can be hugged by someone that loves me and doesnt abuse me in the afterlife