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NeverEndingPain

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If your carotid artery's are cut off during full suspension which is supposed to achieve unconscious quickly, why do I keep seeing people talk about suffocating during full? Any videos I have seen has not shown that. I've only seen convulsions but not someone gasping for air. Am I correct to say you would be unconscious first ?
 
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This is not certain. It is known that sometimes with full suspension the carotids don't get cut off and that you have to wait for the windpipe to close off, which can take a long time. ONe case I read about was someone who was pulled down after twenty minutes and they had no ills effets because tehir windpipe waas not cut off yet. Another case I read about was of someone who was pulled down after ten minutes and they are now a vegetable for life. MOst people seem to go unconscious quickly based on videos, but the knot and the rope and where you hang from are variables. If left alone for long enough it si close to a 100% method. But it is a myth that the carotids close off every time, it is known that this doesn't happen every time.
 
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This is not certain. It is known that sometimes with full suspension the carotids don't get cut off and that you have to wait for the windpipe to close off, which can take a long time. ONe case I read about was someone who was pulled down after twenty minutes and they had no ills effets because tehir windpipe waas not cut off yet. Another case I read about was of someone who was pulled down after ten minutes and they are now a vegetable for life. MOst people seem to go unconscious quickly based on videos, but the knot and the rope and where you hang from are variables. If left alone for long enough it si close to a 100% method. But it is a myth that the carotids close off every time, it is known that this doesn't happen every time.
So would you say partial is better for closing the carotids? With partial, if unconsciousness isn't achieved, one could just reposition ?
 
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So would you say partial is better for closing the carotids? With partial, if unconsciousness isn't achieved, one could just reposition ?
Partial works a small percentage of thne time, I wouldn't use it- one recent person here said they seem to have brain damage from a failed partial attempt. I persoanlly woudl never use any low percen6tage method, and partial is very low percentage. Full suspension is very high percentage but there is a arisk of it taking a long time. I would never use opartial but I would consider full- a peaceful method like one of the inert gas methods is way more peaceful if you can put one of these methods together- they can be more complicated.
 
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If your carotid artery's are cut off during full suspension which is supposed to achieve unconscious quickly, why do I keep seeing people talk about suffocating during full? Any videos I have seen has not shown that. I've only seen convulsions but not someone gasping for air. Am I correct to say you would be unconscious first ?
there is a small risk. chances are your arteries will be compressed before suffocating. but there is a chance will suffocate. doing research and minimizing the risk is you best bet.
 
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there is a small risk. chances are your arteries will be compressed before suffocating. but there is a chance will suffocate. doing research and minimizing the risk is you best bet.
Yes, but honestly if you have a good location where you won't be interrupted, like a house to yourself, full suspension offers close to 100% certainty of working. INert gas methods are so much more peaceful that if you have a house to yourself this may be the way to go. Each person has thier own situation.
 
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Yes, but honestly if you have a good location where you won't be interrupted, like a house to yourself, full suspension offers close to 100% certainty of working. INert gas methods are so much more peaceful that if you have a house to yourself this may be the way to go. Each person has thier own situation.
yes full suspension is close to 100 percent. just refered to the choking part.
 
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So would you say partial is better for closing the carotids? With partial, if unconsciousness isn't achieved, one could just reposition ?
With partial several people have failed from 15 to 25 times, and one recent poster has effects that seem like brsain damage after a failed partial attempt. Partila has such a lwo success rate I would not do it. Full has a high success rate but it will likely be painful and terrifying and extremely stressful- by far the worst exoerience of a person's life, it seems- this method is only for those whoel are desperate to leave and who can't put together more peaceful methods.
 
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With partial several people have failed from 15 to 25 times, and one recent poster has effects that seem like brsain damage after a failed partial attempt. Partila has such a lwo success rate I would not do it. Full has a high success rate but it will likely be painful and terrifying and extremely stressful- by far the worst exoerience of a person's life, it seems- this method is only for those whoel are desperate to leave and who can't put together more peaceful methods.
I don't think people like Robin Williams would choose this method if it was a bad way. He would be able to access many ways but chose hanging. Same with many other celebrities.
 
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With partial several people have failed from 15 to 25 times, and one recent poster has effects that seem like brsain damage after a failed partial attempt. Partila has such a lwo success rate I would not do it. Full has a high success rate but it will likely be painful and terrifying and extremely stressful- by far the worst exoerience of a person's life, it seems- this method is only for those whoel are desperate to leave and who can't put together more peaceful methods.
but do you have to find a high enough spot to jump from to break the neck for full suspension? or is it enough to just kick a chair away and hang?
 
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but do you have to find a high enough spot to jump from to break the neck for full suspension? or is it enough to just kick a chair away and hang?
NO, breaking the nexk is nt part of full suspension- that is opart of longdrop, the way executioners do things where the floor drops out, long drop is not normally a ctb method because it requires careful calculations- when jumping you can't craefully calculate the force, you might just break the rope.
I don't think people like Robin Williams would choose this method if it was a bad way. He would be able to access many ways but chose hanging. Same with many other celebrities.
It's not a bad way if you can get it is work- it's just that most of the time when people poost on this site later they post that it failed- and it can be bad if it fails, it can leave lasting brain damage. There may be more that he knew to make the method reliable that most people can not find out. Several peopl who posted here said it failed from 15 to 25 times for them.
 
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