starvation

[willitpass]

Im tryinig it

It will be extremely unpleasant and the odds are not in your favor. It is far more than likely that you will cave and start eating and drinking again. And if you plan on starvation alone while still drinking then you're in for months of torture and once again you will most likely cave.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

People have done it, if there's enough determination. My friend's father did it. It happens. He just made the decision and stuck to it.

 

[4_science]

Don't try it, I've gone maybe three days max. My dietary habits are horrible in general though I'm male 5'10 115 lbs. I thought abt exercising myself to death though since I'm already so frail lol. Assuming the loss of water in sweat would be enough if I did something really intense and deprived myself of water

There has been a reported death due to dehyration, excessive exercise an heat in the USA. The person was not allowed to drink during hours of extensive running exercise in the sun on a very hot day. Heat stroke is an option epening were you live thanks to global warming.

It will be extremely unpleasant and the odds are not in your favor. It is far more than likely that you will cave and start eating and drinking again. And if you plan on starvation alone while still drinking then you're in for months of torture and once again you will most likely cave.

Exactly. Once you stop eating after a while your body will digest fat first and then muscle tissue in extreme conditions such as severe malnutrition.

I went without food and water for 2 and a half days. I tried to sleep as much as I could (slleping pills) to overcome the severe dehyration headache. I couldn´t. SI kicked in at some point an I couldn´t prevent it.

 

[Ash’Girl]

The documented success stories are mostly people with terminal conditions who make the decision with support of family, friends and medics, so when they get to the painful stage they're on a shit load of strong painkillers, so too out of it to suffer too much. They also have someone to help with their personal care as after a time you're too weak to walk and can get very disoriented. They also tend to have underlying conditions that make them already fairly weak / ill when they start the process, so it's faster.

I've done this, both deliberately and also when depressed / disassociative therefore no interest in food/drink, but I remember my legs giving out a lot, collapsing, having to crawl to the bathroom etc. I always ended up caving, maybe I've gone max 5 days, my memories are kind of fuzzy. It's possible at some point I brushed my teeth or something. I've read that for patients who go this route, even the occasional ice chip or water swab to combat the dry mouth can extend the time it takes to die (I would think marginally but every body is different).

I think it's possible with enough determination but it's not a quick or painless process.

I think you could achieve it faster with intense cardio, lots of heat in combination with VSED but the weaker you get the less you're able to exercise.

When I was researching this as a method, I found the story of this man who got stranded in the desert yet survived. It's amazing the resilience of these body bags we are stuck in, but I guess my point is even against insurmountable odds sometimes you do survive. (He wasn't trying to ctb, he wanted to live, and he wasn't doing VSED, but given he was in the desert for 9 days with minimal access to water in extreme heat, I'm amazed he survived no matter how clever he was in his survival methods).

But he was an athlete too so his physical health was probably really good before hand.

Mauro Prosperi - Wikipedia

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[MatthieuFrederickW]

It will be extremely unpleasant and the odds are not in your favor. It is far more than likely that you will cave and start eating and drinking again. And if you plan on starvation alone while still drinking then you're in for months of torture and once again you will most likely cave.

Have you even attempted it and gone weeks without food or are you just speculating here?

anyone know much about just straight up starving to death? i already don't eat a lot maybe once a day. i weigh like 146, a woman, and am about 5'9. i've read it can take a few days but really should be no more than a week if you're not eating or drinking water. how severe will this be? will i somehow just end up with brain damage?

I'd recommend water fast starvation and take electrolytes if you have some patience.

 

[willitpass]

Have you even attempted it and gone weeks without food or are you just speculating here?

I have attempted it. I have anorexia so I've gone days without food more times than you can even count. I've also attempted via dehydration. Not a single drop of food or water for 5 days. I would walk laps continuously to try and burn off extra water. After 5 days it was like some other force took over me. I felt beyond horrible, my feet had turned completely white. Before I even knew what was happening I had downed nearly a gallon of juice and ate everything I could get my hands on. Ravenous doesn't even begin to describe the feeling. I have a great degree of self control, and I can confidently say it would take someone with balls stronger than steel to pull of VSED without being on hospice with access to strong sedatives and pain killers.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Have you even attempted it and gone weeks without food or are you just speculating here?

I'd recommend water fast starvation and take electrolytes if you have some patience.

Yes, many people just speculate, and make it sound as if everything is the worst imaginable choice for one reason or the other. As if things are hard enough. My friend's father starved himself to death for 3 months, that's how long it took him to die, and he did it without any painkillers or medication and didn't complain about anything bothering him. If you stop drinking the last three of which you're going to be mostly unconscious.
People that can't go through with it, I would say they're just not committed, there's just too strong of a will to live. My friend's father, he was just committed to it and not everybody loses their willpower and caves into eating and drinking. I don't know why but I think it has just something to do with knowing inside yourself.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

Yes, many people just speculate, and make it sound as if everything is the worst imaginable choice for one reason or the other. As if things are hard enough. My friend's father starved himself to death for 3 months, that's how long it took him to die, and he did it without any painkillers or medication and didn't complain about anything bothering him. If you stop drinking the last three of which you're going to be mostly unconscious.

Yeah I think some people are just making it up. I've seen someone somewhere a while ago say a 3 day fast was "hell" on the third day, and I could do 3 water fast like it's nothing, easy peasy lol. It's annoying how some comments say it's excruciatingly painful like hell, when I know certain ones don't actually know for sure.

I have attempted it. I have anorexia so I've gone days without food more times than you can even count. I've also attempted via dehydration. Not a single drop of food or water for 5 days. I would walk laps continuously to try and burn off extra water. After 5 days it was like some other force took over me. I felt beyond horrible, my feet had turned completely white. Before I even knew what was happening I had downed nearly a gallon of juice and ate everything I could get my hands on. Ravenous doesn't even begin to describe the feeling. I have a great degree of self control, and I can confidently say it would take someone with balls stronger than steel to pull of VSED without being on hospice with access to strong sedatives and pain killers.

Have you ever tried water fast starvation, starving but also drinking water and/or taking electrolytes?

Yes, many people just speculate, and make it sound as if everything is the worst imaginable choice for one reason or the other. As if things are hard enough. My friend's father starved himself to death for 3 months, that's how long it took him to die, and he did it without any painkillers or medication and didn't complain about anything bothering him. If you stop drinking the last three of which you're going to be mostly unconscious.
People that can't go through with it, I would say they're just not committed, there's just too strong of a will to live. My friend's father, he was just committed to it and not everybody loses their willpower and caves into eating and drinking. I don't know why but I think it has just something to do with knowing inside yourself.

This is what I suspected it was like to die from starvation (not VSED) but also drinking water and/or taking electrolytes. Thank you for response! I also I take it the father was still drinking fluids?

People have done it, if there's enough determination. My friend's father did it. It happens. He just made the decision and stuck to it.

Did he forgo all fluids too? I'm thinking of try starvation but drinking water and taking electrolytes. With enough patience I think it would work relatively well.

 

[willitpass]

Have you ever tried water fast starvation, starving but also drinking water and/or taking electrolytes?

I've water fasted many, many times in my life for several days because of my eating disorder. It doesn't feel great, but it would take weeks to months for it to be enough to kill you. The amount of self restraint VSED takes is unbelievable. Since you're so quick to judge people about it, tell me, have you tried it?

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

I've water fasted many, many times in my life for several days because of my eating disorder. It doesn't feel great, but it would take weeks to months for it to be enough to kill you. The amount of self restraint VSED takes is unbelievable. Since you're so quick to judge people about it, tell me, have you tried it?

I've done a 3 day water fast and had zero symptoms, yet I saw someone say a 3 day water fast was hell.

 

[willitpass]

I've done a 3 day water fast and had zero symptoms, yet I saw someone say a 3 day water fast was hell.

I can tell you right now a water fast vs complete starvation and dehydration are far from the same thing. And you cannot judge someone for how they felt about something based on your own personal experience. Just because you are able to easily water fast doesn't mean it wasn't hell for someone else. Perspective exists. Please do not judge people for how they experience their struggles. Especially when it comes to mental illness and suicide it is not your place to tell someone else they were right or wrong for their perception of their own experience.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

I can tell you right now a water fast vs complete starvation and dehydration are far from the same thing. And you cannot judge someone for how they felt about something based on your own personal experience. Just because you are able to easily water fast doesn't mean it wasn't hell for someone else. Perspective exists. Please do not judge people for how they experience their struggles. Especially when it comes to mental illness and suicide it is not your place to tell someone else they were right or wrong for their perception of their own experience.

Yeah that's true I agree, but I suspect some comments, not just on here, but also places like Reddit say things like it was hell or it's excruciatingly painful when I'm almost certain many of those people don't really know. I'm just referring to those ones.

 

[willitpass]

Yeah that's true I agree, but I suspect some comments, not just on here, but also places like Reddit say things like it was hell or it's excruciatingly painful when I'm almost certain many of those people don't really know. I'm just referring to those ones.

Well you don't know either. And considering almost every comment here from people who are saying they've actually tried it is that it is highly unpleasant and didn't work, it probably is highly unpleasant and won't work. Statistically speaking, the odds of starving and/or dehydrating yourself to death peacefully without hospice medications are abysmally low. People are not just saying this as a fear tactic. Just because it has happened before doesn't mean it is likely.

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

Starvation and dehydration have 100 percent mortality. It is difficult to start starvation after eating several meals a day. You should get your body used to starvation gradually. You may need morphine to cope with the pain. How long it takes to die of starvation depends on body weight but you will probably die of a disease before you die of this method. Good luck.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

Starvation and dehydration have 100 percent mortality. It is difficult to start starvation after eating several meals a day. You should get your body used to starvation gradually. You may need morphine to cope with the pain. How long it takes to die of starvation depends on body weight but you will probably die of a disease before you die of this method. Good luck.

Yeah agreed I'd definitely ease my way into it. I'm guessing it's better to be on a ketogenic or ketovore diet before starting it. I've read some articles about people who starved to death and it seems to take about 2 months give or take, but no information whether they were still drinking water or not. I'd be eating one meal a day before starting it.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Yeah I think some people are just making it up. I've seen someone somewhere a while ago say a 3 day fast was "hell" on the third day, and I could do 3 water fast like it's nothing, easy peasy lol. It's annoying how some comments say it's excruciatingly painful like hell, when I know certain ones don't actually know for sure.

Have you ever tried water fast starvation, starving but also drinking water and/or taking electrolytes?

This is what I suspected it was like to die from starvation (not VSED) but also drinking water and/or taking electrolytes. Thank you for response! I also I take it the father was still drinking fluids?

Did he forgo all fluids too? I'm thinking of try starvation but drinking water and taking electrolytes. With enough patience I think it would work relatively well.

No, he drank, he didn't eat. That's why it took so long

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

No, he drank, he didn't eat. That's why it took so long

I figured as much, still, that's longer than stories I've read about. The most seems about upwards of 70 days. Thanks for response.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

I figured as much, still, that's longer than stories I've read about. The most seems about upwards of 70 days. Thanks for response.

He was 6'5. Very muscular. He had much body mass to convert. It was 2.5 to 3 months, which is 74-90 days, not much more than average in reality. It was definitely not the full 90 days, but I don't want to ask my friend for the specific number at this point. It was 2 years ago now that he died.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

He was 6'5. Very muscular. He had much body mass to convert. It was 2.5 to 3 months, which is 74-90 days, not much more than average in reality. It was definitely not the full 90 days, but I don't want to ask my friend for the specific number at this point. It was 2 years ago now that he died.

Yeah I understand. That makes sense for his size. Thanks again.

 

[cracked_lense]

I came here to read about starvation because every month I go +10 days without food due to financial reasons and every month it gets so bad I just want to die. After 2-3 days I usually try to hang myself and then freak out. Can't seem to find a quick and easy way to leave. Today marks my first day in the no-food cycle. Not my first choice of method because it just seems like endless suffering without reprieve

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

I came here to read about starvation because every month I go +10 days without food due to financial reasons and every month it gets so bad I just want to die. After 2-3 days I usually try to hang myself and then freak out. Can't seem to find a quick and easy way to leave. Today marks my first day in the no-food cycle. Not my first choice of method because it just seems like endless suffering without reprieve

You still continuing drinking?
Starvation method shouldn't be painful at all if you're still drinking soda water and electrolytes. You'll just feel very weak.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

Starvation method shouldn't be painful at all if you're still drinking soda water and electrolytes. You'll just feel very weak.

People have done it, if there's enough determination. My friend's father did it. It happens. He just made the decision and stuck to it.

The people who say it's like torture to starve to death while still drinking water and taking electrolytes haha. Not true at all. You'd feel weak yeah, but it's not painful.

 

[Unicr0n]

People say heat death is a good option but more people die from the cold than the heat each year. One day of exposure outside at night in the cold snowy forest is all it takes. It might hurt at first, who hasn't been cold? But you stop feeling the cold and it becomes warm and sleepy and you never wake up. Of course you'd have to live somewhere where it gets snow.

There has been a reported death due to dehyration, excessive exercise an heat in the USA. The person was not allowed to drink during hours of extensive running exercise in the sun on a very hot day. Heat stroke is an option epening were you live thanks to global warming.

*climate change, not global warming ['end of the world' predictions by climate 'experts' have always failed just like Christians' predictions of the end of the world]. Heat stroke sucks compared to freezing to death. Heat stroke is painful, just like dehydration. You don't get a peaceful death with it. You also have a high probability of being rescued with much permanent brain damage. You'd have to do all that exercise then find a place where someone won't find you for at least 24 hours but also be far enough from any sources of water.

 

[PinballWizard39]

As someone who suffered from anorexia, I can tell you it can take a very long time to die from starvation. Years ago, I had already been anorexic for a long time and had just come out of hospital with the agreement I'd maintain my weight at a BMI of 15. Obviously that didn't happen and still, 2-3 months later, I was still alive at a BMI of 9 (granted I was in a pretty dire way). I had been on a suicide mission and thought I would have died long before I got to the point I did. Bodies are different and the time it takes to starve yourself to death will vary significantly. I don't recommend it. Fluid wise, I don't know too much, but I do know that if you restrict your fluids and are still eating, it will take longer.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Starvation method shouldn't be painful at all if you're still drinking soda water and electrolytes. You'll just feel very weak.

The people who say it's like torture to starve to death while still drinking water and taking electrolytes haha. Not true at all. You'd feel weak yeah, but it's not painful.

There's so much fear mongering on this board, people who aren't serious, people who are outright lying or trying to prevent people killing themselves. It's really too bad.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

There's so much fear mongering on this board, people who aren't serious, people who are outright lying or trying to prevent people killing themselves. It's really too bad.

Yeah agreed, this is what I suspect aswell with certain accounts

 

[Cantbereal]

You still continuing drinking?
Starvation method shouldn't be painful at all if you're still drinking soda water and electrolytes. You'll just feel very weak.

I didn't do it on purpose but I wanted to starvation mode ketoacidosis and believe me it's very painful it's horrible and then I was only 113 lb I didn't do it on purpose

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

I didn't do it on purpose but I wanted to starvation mode ketoacidosis and believe me it's very painful it's horrible and then I was only 113 lb I didn't do it on purpose

What do you mean when you say you didn't do it on purpose? What type of fast did you do and for how long, and what was your experience of it?

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

I didn't do it on purpose but I wanted to starvation mode ketoacidosis and believe me it's very painful it's horrible and then I was only 113 lb I didn't do it on purpose

Off topic but, did you get my messages back to you? I got your messages this morning and I messaged you back. Sometimes I don't get notifications when people contact me.

 

[theEndCH]

Is anyone here interested in private or group chatting about VSED?