sooooo many celebs are dying from OD's... why is it labeled a non-method on here?

[xXSufferingXx]

people die from OD'ing every single day, and they aren't even trying.
so why is it discouraged as a method here?

a lot of those people are life-time users of drugs, yet they can still die from drugs.
so imagine someone who ONLY (hypothetically) wanted to utilize it for suicide and never ever tried drugs before

 

[UnbearableLightness]

Legit wish there was a good protocol for this because I'd imagine it's a comfier way to go out than SN

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

For one, because I think it's easy to do by accident but not on purpose.

 

[neurotoxic]

When someone dies by OD, they are not usually trying to die. A lot of times its a case of someone who had a high tolerance taking large amounts of drugs to compensate for the high tolerance, so their bodies are already weak from long term drug use and its more of a straw that broke the camels back situation.

Most prescription drugs that can cause death from an overdose, have one or more of several problems as a method. For some, you would have to take such a large amount of them that when people attempt to OD, their body rejects it before a lethal level of the drug is absorbed. For others, like prescription opiates, the lethal amount varies depending on the person and other factors. Mixing different medications can make them more lethal but it also introduces more unpredictability, and more likely that you'll just puke it all up even with AEs. They're just very inconsistent.

 

[auti]

ODs are inconsistent and pretty unreliable. And a lot of the times there's a lot of suffering involved, especially if your body has an unexpected reaction to the medication. Then there's the problem of access too as you might end up with drugs laced with other stuff that may complicate things. Also a lot of medications these days have a treatment like opioids have narcan so higher chance of survival. This is how I understand it anyway.

 

[zxcvbn3857]

people die from OD'ing every single day, and they aren't even trying.
so why is it discouraged as a method here?

a lot of those people are life-time users of drugs, yet they can still die from drugs.
so imagine someone who ONLY (hypothetically) wanted to utilize it for suicide and never ever tried drugs before

Most overdoses are because of fentanyl. You dont know how much is in them until you've already taken. You could take 1 pill and ctb or you could take the whole bottle and still be alive. It's too unpredictable

 

[vitbar]

There are so many people even unlikely causes of death happen everywhere.

Being rich probably doesn't limit your access either.

 

[UnbearableLightness]

There are so many people even unlikely causes of death happen everywhere.

Being rich probably doesn't limit your access either.

I looked up celebs who died this year cause of this thread and learned Oliver Tree died in a helicopter crash in Brazil. Talk about unlikely rich people deaths haha

 

[starboy2k]

they got the money for the good shit that can and will kill them…………do you?

 

[Misanthrope0000]

An irl friend of mine had a failed attempt on OD and suffered from health problems for a while, me too I had a failed OD attempt and suffered horribly before eventually going to the doctor, just like others said, most of the time deaths by OD aren't on purpose, it may sound easy but if you actually tried it, it's very painful and have a higher chance to fail

 

[letsnotmakeittoo22]

It varies. I am a recovered junkie. I have overdosed off fentanyl when I use to smoke it and needed narcan numerous times.

I have tried to od pills with only one attempt landing my a comatosed state. Still. Not dead.

But if I hadn't been found when I had in the fentanyl situations. Id be gone.

Fucking bastards.

 

[tiramisu]

an od can actually work, and i say this because i've experienced it myself, but it would still be my absolute last resort if sn were to fail for some reason.

 

[Forveleth]

You also have to remember that we only here about the "successful" ODs. For each celeb that dies via OD, there could be 100 failed ODs no one ever knows about. Even around the forum here there are many mentions of failed OD attempts. You have to step back and look at the numbers as a whole, not just cases pointed out in the media.

 

[xXSufferingXx]

ok, but if someone magically (hypothetically) could get pure fent... it would be game over

 

[fluorescentpearl]

An od Can work it just cannot be random and it has to be planned and you need pretty heavy things all combined to ensure a better outcome, you can't OD on random pills and some alcohol in most cases sadly, I know that @purebliss and @hdead do a lot of research into ODs and have more info on it than I do, if you wish to look into that method I'd recommend checking that out

 

[kirillbledny]

It varies. I am a recovered junkie. I have overdosed off fentanyl when I use to smoke it and needed narcan numerous times.

Just out of curiousity (I've never used opioids), what does a fent OD feel like? Is it just a coma? Do you remember anything from it or just being narcanned and then feeling like shit?

 

[letsnotmakeittoo22]

Just out of curiousity (I've never used opioids), what does a fent OD feel like? Is it just a coma? Do you remember anything from it or just being narcanned and then feeling like shit?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. One minute you're smoking. One minute you're gone.

I can't speak for shooting up as I only smoked fent, and my experiences may not be 1-1 with anyone else.

But the times I have od on fent. It was genuinely the most peaceful way I could imagine. Just. Nothingness. No panic. No fear. Just. Nothing.

And I remember nothing but taking a hit the. Waking up to medical staff around me ( they had to call the ambulance post narcan twice ) suddenly sober and very angry

 

[ctb_warrior]

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. One minute you're smoking. One minute you're gone.

I can't speak for shooting up as I only smoked fent, and my experiences may not be 1-1 with anyone else.

But the times I have od on fent. It was genuinely the most peaceful way I could imagine. Just. Nothingness. No panic. No fear. Just. Nothing.

And I remember nothing but taking a hit the. Waking up to medical staff around me ( they had to call the ambulance post narcan twice ) suddenly sober and very angry

Wow thanks for sharing this experience.
I'll see if i can find fent.. I'm not sure how easy or difficult it is to procure it in India

 

[letsnotmakeittoo22]

Wow thanks for sharing this experience.
I'll see if i can find fent.. I'm not sure how easy or difficult it is to procure it in India

I haven't had any connections. And if I continue to fail with partial this is my next preferred method. Good luck on your search. Wish me luck too! I haven't been able to find any ( mainly due to lack of trying and the internalized stigma of relapse. )

 

[ctb_warrior]

I haven't had any connections. And if I continue to fail with partial this is my next preferred method. Good luck on your search. Wish me luck too! I haven't been able to find any ( mainly due to lack of trying and the internalized stigma of relapse. )

Sure buddy i wish you all the love, luck and success in everything you choose

 

[kirillbledny]

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. One minute you're smoking. One minute you're gone.

I can't speak for shooting up as I only smoked fent, and my experiences may not be 1-1 with anyone else.

But the times I have od on fent. It was genuinely the most peaceful way I could imagine. Just. Nothingness. No panic. No fear. Just. Nothing.

And I remember nothing but taking a hit the. Waking up to medical staff around me ( they had to call the ambulance post narcan twice ) suddenly sober and very angry

Sounds very peaceful honestly, if only I lived in the US.

 

[MatiSendiri]

Hi, me here!

To summarize what everyone saying here (and also my opinion):
1. Conventional drugs (OTC and prescription drugs) are designed so that it's hard for you to OD.
2. Illegal drugs is way too inconsistent in strength compared to conventional drugs. Aside from lab testing, you don't know the purity of illegal drugs until you've tried it.
3. Most cases of OD using illegal drugs are people who already built tolerance with the drug itself and take the lethal dose unknowingly.
4. Some (if not most) OD death is combined with drugs that have interactions, like opioid-alcohol. This is way too varied as a viable method to go with since the effects of drug interactions varies between persons (like age, weight, genetics, etc)

 

[Fish]

Plenty of people die from car accidents everyday, but doesn't mean it is easy for you to kill yourself through a car accident