Some questions about full suspension hanging

[undo445]

I have this tree with a low enough branch that I can use to hang myself. Only thing is is that it's in my nearby Churches churchyard with some houses nearby and I'd probably have to execute ctb there at like 4 am when everyone is asleep so that I wouldn't get caught. Does anyone have any tips or know how to tie the rope on the branch effectively and what efficient rope I should use. Also what knots should I use to tie around my carotid for effectively passing out?

 

[JesiBel]

I think you forgot to attach the photo of the tree..

Reading these threads will help you:

Thread 'Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert'

Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert

This thread is ONLY for those who 1) must do partial/full suspension hanging, and 2) can only resort to using a tree. I was a professional tree climber and trimmer for 5 years, i trimmed/felled trees away from powerlines all over Wyoming, Utah and Idaho. Just thought id give my best insights...

sanctioned-suicide.net

'How to locate the carotid arteries?'

How to locate the carotid arteries ?

It seems to be said that I should be able to feel a pulse where they are but I can't feel anything . Any tips ?

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thread 'Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging?'

Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging?

Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging? How reliable is it? How long does it take to get unconscious? How painful is it? How does it feel like while hanged? What is the difference between full hanging and partial hanging? Is there any resources here on this site regarding this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

For the ligature (neck), I recommend the noose knot with stopper knot, it slides easily and adjusts itself when applying weight:



Keep in mind to always be alone, so that there is no possibility of anyone lurking around the area..

The best ropes to use are made of polyester or polypropylene, they are strong. Check the breaking load before purchasing. Between 10 and 14 mm will be fine, almost the thickness of a finger.

Remember to also test the strength of your anchor point, so that it can withstand your weight.

 

[undo445]

I think you forgot to attach the photo of the tree..

Reading these threads will help you:

Thread 'Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert'

Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert

This thread is ONLY for those who 1) must do partial/full suspension hanging, and 2) can only resort to using a tree. I was a professional tree climber and trimmer for 5 years, i trimmed/felled trees away from powerlines all over Wyoming, Utah and Idaho. Just thought id give my best insights...

sanctioned-suicide.net

'How to locate the carotid arteries?'

How to locate the carotid arteries ?

It seems to be said that I should be able to feel a pulse where they are but I can't feel anything . Any tips ?

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thread 'Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging?'

Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging?

Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging? How reliable is it? How long does it take to get unconscious? How painful is it? How does it feel like while hanged? What is the difference between full hanging and partial hanging? Is there any resources here on this site regarding this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

For the ligature (neck), I recommend the noose knot with stopper knot, it slides easily and adjusts itself when applying weight:



Keep in mind to always be alone, so that there is no possibility of anyone lurking around the area..

The best ropes to use are made of polyester or polypropylene, they are strong. Check the breaking load before purchasing. Between 10 and 14 mm will be fine, almost the thickness of a finger.

Remember to also test the strength of your anchor point, so that it can withstand your weight.

Thanks for the information. I should be able to get a pic of the tree soon

 

[undo445]

I think you forgot to attach the photo of the tree..

Reading these threads will help you:

Thread 'Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert'

Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert

This thread is ONLY for those who 1) must do partial/full suspension hanging, and 2) can only resort to using a tree. I was a professional tree climber and trimmer for 5 years, i trimmed/felled trees away from powerlines all over Wyoming, Utah and Idaho. Just thought id give my best insights...

sanctioned-suicide.net

'How to locate the carotid arteries?'

How to locate the carotid arteries ?

It seems to be said that I should be able to feel a pulse where they are but I can't feel anything . Any tips ?

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thread 'Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging?'

Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging?

Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging? How reliable is it? How long does it take to get unconscious? How painful is it? How does it feel like while hanged? What is the difference between full hanging and partial hanging? Is there any resources here on this site regarding this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

For the ligature (neck), I recommend the noose knot with stopper knot, it slides easily and adjusts itself when applying weight:



Keep in mind to always be alone, so that there is no possibility of anyone lurking around the area..

The best ropes to use are made of polyester or polypropylene, they are strong. Check the breaking load before purchasing. Between 10 and 14 mm will be fine, almost the thickness of a finger.

Remember to also test the strength of your anchor point, so that it can withstand your weight.

I'm going to use the middle part of the left tree branch protruding from the tree to hang from. I included a picture of the houses across the street.

 

[kopebaldy]

I'm going to use the middle part of the left tree branch protruding from the tree to hang from. I included a picture of the houses across the street.

Oh that's too out in the open imo, there's a very high chance someone would spot you.

 

[eggsausagerice]

Oh that's too out in the open imo, there's a very high chance someone would spot you.

i agree. all the houses nearby would totally stress me out, no matter how late it is. you could be seen from pretty much any angle.

 

[TheEmptyVoid]

I'm going to use the middle part of the left tree branch protruding from the tree to hang from. I included a picture of the houses across the street.

I think it's best to do it on a forest, that looks like anyone can just see you and of course rescue you.

 

[JesiBel]

I'm going to use the middle part of the left tree branch protruding from the tree to hang from. I included a picture of the houses across the street.

It's a nice tree, but it's in an area that's too open and exposed to other people.. There are many houses and neighbors nearby.

Sorry. It would be a good idea if you'd find another location.

 

[Eriktf]

anyone from a kid to the mailman can find and save you

 

[undo445]

Okay, I might use this tree now with either the left or right branch. Don't worry, nobody frequents that building at night. But I'm concerned about my back hitting the tree while hanging so close to it. Do you think that'll affect anything?

I think you forgot to attach the photo of the tree..

Reading these threads will help you:

Thread 'Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert'

Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert

This thread is ONLY for those who 1) must do partial/full suspension hanging, and 2) can only resort to using a tree. I was a professional tree climber and trimmer for 5 years, i trimmed/felled trees away from powerlines all over Wyoming, Utah and Idaho. Just thought id give my best insights...

sanctioned-suicide.net

'How to locate the carotid arteries?'

How to locate the carotid arteries ?

It seems to be said that I should be able to feel a pulse where they are but I can't feel anything . Any tips ?

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thread 'Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging?'

Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging?

Do you need to find the sweet spot with full hanging? How reliable is it? How long does it take to get unconscious? How painful is it? How does it feel like while hanged? What is the difference between full hanging and partial hanging? Is there any resources here on this site regarding this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

For the ligature (neck), I recommend the noose knot with stopper knot, it slides easily and adjusts itself when applying weight:



Keep in mind to always be alone, so that there is no possibility of anyone lurking around the area..

The best ropes to use are made of polyester or polypropylene, they are strong. Check the breaking load before purchasing. Between 10 and 14 mm will be fine, almost the thickness of a finger.

Remember to also test the strength of your anchor point, so that it can withstand your weight.

What kind of knot should I tie around the tree branch?

 

[Eriktf]

Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert

This thread is ONLY for those who 1) must do partial/full suspension hanging, and 2) can only resort to using a tree. I was a professional tree climber and trimmer for 5 years, i trimmed/felled trees away from powerlines all over Wyoming, Utah and Idaho. Just thought id give my best insights...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[JesiBel]

Okay, I might use this tree now with either the left or right branch. Don't worry, nobody frequents that building at night. But I'm concerned about my back hitting the tree while hanging so close to it. Do you think that'll affect anything?


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What kind of knot should I tie around the tree branch?

It is also still a place open to the public (an urban area), it doesn't look like an abandoned place.

Isn't it possible to find a more private location where ordinary people can't find you? It's not advisable to use such places so as not to traumatize others.

In a private place you could leave a warning note so no one enters, and someone can call the police (I guess they are already used to seeing that kind of scenes or even worse)

About the question..

Your back touching the surface of the tree will not be a problem, it will not affect the procedure. It will be Full Suspension as long as you don't touch the ground.

Removing the context in which the tree is and imagining that you are in a remote, uninhabited area.. you could tie the rope in these places:
(choosing the strongest branch that keeps you away from the ground)

Spoiler

For knots you could use any of these: Anchor hitch knot, Bowline knot.

If you can't reach the place where you want to tie the knots, I recommend reading these ideas:

Tying a knot in a hard-to-reach place, idea 1

Tying a knot in a hard-to-reach place, idea 2

 

[undo445]

It is also still a place open to the public (an urban area), it doesn't look like an abandoned place.

Isn't it possible to find a more private location where ordinary people can't find you? It's not advisable to use such places so as not to traumatize others.

In a private place you could leave a warning note so no one enters, and someone can call the police (I guess they are already used to seeing that kind of scenes or even worse)

About the question..

Your back touching the surface of the tree will not be a problem, it will not affect the procedure. It will be Full Suspension as long as you don't touch the ground.

Removing the context in which the tree is and imagining that you are in a remote, uninhabited area.. you could tie the rope in these places:
(choosing the strongest branch that keeps you away from the ground)

Spoiler

View attachment 176262

For knots you could use any of these: Anchor hitch knot, Bowline knot.

If you can't reach the place where you want to tie the knots, I recommend reading these ideas:

Tying a knot in a hard-to-reach place, idea 1

Tying a knot in a hard-to-reach place, idea 2

Should I worry about the pain my neck will be in? Or does the thickness of the rope help with that? How likely is it that I'll pass out before I suffer from suffocation?

 

[underneaththetrees]

ngl those houses would be an issue for me cause if i was seen mid-way I'd be put on watch.
goodluck though, I wish you the least amount of pain possible

 

[JesiBel]

Should I worry about the pain my neck will be in? Or does the thickness of the rope help with that? How likely is it that I'll pass out before I suffer from suffocation?

You'll be more comfortable if the rope isn't too thin, otherwise it will dig too deep into your neck and will be uncomfortable. 10 to 14 mm will be fine. You can choose one that is static (without elasticity) made of polyester or polypropylene (they are strong materials).

To lose consciousness quickly, the position of the ligature and the type of knot are essential..

'How to locate the carotid arteries?'

Ligature position + reference drawing with neck anatomy

The position of the ligature (rope): goes under the jaw. More or less at the height of the Hyoid Bone, which is above of the Adam's apple (laryngeal prominence).

And the knot of the ligature: should be behind the neck in the center.

Ligature knot: Noose knot with stopper knot (also known as Arbor knot). This knot tightens itself when weight is applied, facilitating proper compression.

Very explanatory video on how consciousness is rapidly lost due to the blockage of oxygenated blood supply to the brain.

 

[undo445]

You'll be more comfortable if the rope isn't too thin, otherwise it will dig too deep into your neck and will be uncomfortable. 10 to 14 mm will be fine. You can choose one that is static (without elasticity) made of polyester or polypropylene (they are strong materials).

To lose consciousness quickly, the position of the ligature and the type of knot are essential..

'How to locate the carotid arteries?'

Ligature position + reference drawing with neck anatomy

The position of the ligature (rope): goes under the jaw. More or less at the height of the Hyoid Bone, which is above of the Adam's apple (laryngeal prominence).

And the knot of the ligature: should be behind the neck in the center.

Ligature knot: Noose knot with stopper knot (also known as Arbor knot). This knot tightens itself when weight is applied, facilitating proper compression.

Very explanatory video on how consciousness is rapidly lost due to the blockage of oxygenated blood supply to the brain.

Thanks man. I'm thinking of getting this double stranded rope:

Amazon.com

Should I get the 1/2" 60 feet or the 3/8" 100 feet?

 

[JesiBel]

Thanks man. I'm thinking of getting this double stranded rope:

Amazon.com

Should I get the 1/2" 60 feet or the 3/8" 100 feet?

I would choose: 1/2", 60 feet (= 12 mm, 18 meters)

Rope Size Conversion Chart

 

[undo445]

I would choose: 1/2", 60 feet (= 12 mm, 18 meters)

Rope Size Conversion Chart

Thanks man. I hope this works, based on what I've read with the carotids I should pass out right away if I do it right. I hope so cause I just got finished taking x-rays and when they told me to hold my breath I found doing that difficult for 5 seconds; so I really don't want to end up suffocating for minutes consciously. But, I have no other ctb options

 

[JesiBel]

Thanks man. I hope this works, based on what I've read with the carotids I should pass out right away if I do it right. I hope so cause I just got finished taking x-rays and when they told me to hold my breath I found doing that difficult for 5 seconds; so I really don't want to end up suffocating for minutes consciously. But, I have no other ctb options

True, holding your breath is uncomfortable and creates tension in the body. You can inhale deeply and, as you exhale slowly.. step into the void. This way the body will be relaxed.
Don't jump out of the chair or make sudden movements, as you risk causing the ligature knot to shift position.

If everything is in the correct position and with a self-tightening knot in the ligature the weight of your entire body will put pressure on your neck, blocking the carotid arteries.

When the oxygenated blood supply to the brain is cut off, you will lose consciousness in a matter of seconds. This is the organism's way of entering survival and energy-saving mode. Brain cells are sensitive to lack of oxygen and begin to die.

Brief summary about brain oxygen deprivation and death

 

[undo445]

True, holding your breath is uncomfortable and creates tension in the body. You can inhale deeply and, as you exhale slowly.. step into the void. This way the body will be relaxed.
Don't jump out of the chair or make sudden movements, as you risk causing the ligature knot to shift position.

If everything is in the correct position and with a self-tightening knot in the ligature the weight of your entire body will put pressure on your neck, blocking the carotid arteries.

When the oxygenated blood supply to the brain is cut off, you will lose consciousness in a matter of seconds. This is the organism's way of entering survival and energy-saving mode. Brain cells are sensitive to lack of oxygen and begin to die.

Brief summary about brain oxygen deprivation and death

Sorry I'm just a bit confused. I tried youtubing bowline and anchor hitch knots but they are showing me how to tie knots from the tree trunk. I am looking on how to tie knots on the tree branch, aside from the noose. And do you know how long the rope I carry with me to the spot should be? So I have enough room to tie the tree branch knot and the noose? Thanks.

True, holding your breath is uncomfortable and creates tension in the body. You can inhale deeply and, as you exhale slowly.. step into the void. This way the body will be relaxed.
Don't jump out of the chair or make sudden movements, as you risk causing the ligature knot to shift position.

If everything is in the correct position and with a self-tightening knot in the ligature the weight of your entire body will put pressure on your neck, blocking the carotid arteries.

When the oxygenated blood supply to the brain is cut off, you will lose consciousness in a matter of seconds. This is the organism's way of entering survival and energy-saving mode. Brain cells are sensitive to lack of oxygen and begin to die.

Brief summary about brain oxygen deprivation and death

See, these YouTube videos show them tying the knot from the tree trunk.idk where I can find a video of them tying from the tree branch. Do you have a guide for that?



EDIT: finally I found a video of a person tying from a horizontal base lol.



I think this might work as a tutorial video, going to try it out. Ordering my rope tomorrow.

 

[JesiBel]

Sorry I'm just a bit confused. I tried youtubing bowline and anchor hitch knots but they are showing me how to tie knots from the tree trunk. I am looking on how to tie knots on the tree branch, aside from the noose. And do you know how long the rope I carry with me to the spot should be? So I have enough room to tie the tree branch knot and the noose? Thanks.

See, these YouTube videos show them tying the knot from the tree trunk.idk where I can find a video of them tying from the tree branch. Do you have a guide for that?



EDIT: finally I found a video of a person tying from a horizontal base lol.



I think this might work as a tutorial video, going to try it out. Ordering my rope tomorrow.

That's true, knots take quite a bit of rope to tie.

If you have a roll of rope (is generally sold in sections of 10/15 meters), don't cut it. It's hard to know how much you'll need; it depends on how high the branch is to reach.

You can tie an 'Overhand loop knot' on one end of the rope (throw it to the desired branch and let it hang) and pass the other end through the eyelet to create a loop.

Example photo:

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(This knot is easy, I learned it from user Worndown)

 

[undo445]

That's true, knots take quite a bit of rope to tie.

If you have a roll of rope (is generally sold in sections of 10/15 meters), don't cut it. It's hard to know how much you'll need; it depends on how high the branch is to reach.

You can tie an 'Overhand loop knot' on one end of the rope (throw it to the desired branch and let it hang) and pass the other end through the eyelet to create a loop.

Example photo:

View attachment 180205

(This knot is easy, I learned it from user Worndown)

Okay. I got the rope from Amazon today. Double Braided Polyester Rope (1/2 in x 50 ft). I might go to the tree location tonight or maybe tomorrow when I get my flashlight and test it out. Should I tie the noose beforehand and when I get to the tree swing it over it and then cut the rope on the other end to make the knot that'll tie around the tree branch?

EDIT: uh oh. It's 1/2 inch. Will that still suffice?

 

[JesiBel]

Okay. I got the rope from Amazon today. Double Braided Polyester Rope (1/2 in x 50 ft). I might go to the tree location tonight or maybe tomorrow when I get my flashlight and test it out. Should I tie the noose beforehand and when I get to the tree swing it over it and then cut the rope on the other end to make the knot that'll tie around the tree branch?

EDIT: uh oh. It's 1/2 inch. Will that still suffice?

Yes, it is a good rope.

Personally, I find it more convenient to tie the knot at the anchor point first. And then tie the ligature knot at the desired height (already standing on the chair/stool). You can cut the rope once you have chosen the appropriate branch and have everything ready. But it's a matter of taste, I find it easier that way.

You can go one day to test tying knots in the branches and see the trees. Take it easy.

 

[undo445]

Yes, it is a good rope.

Personally, I find it more convenient to tie the knot at the anchor point first. And then tie the ligature knot at the desired height (already standing on the chair/stool). You can cut the rope once you have chosen the appropriate branch and have everything ready. But it's a matter of taste, I find it easier that way.

You can go one day to test tying knots in the branches and see the trees. Take it easy.

Do you happen to have any advice on placing a ladder like this on wobbly dirt?

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I tried using two chairs I have in my house but they were both really wobbling when I was doing a test run on the dirt and I even had to jump off one as the chair fell down. The dirts really soft and uneven.

I asked Chatgpt and it suggested to Dig shallow pads or use flat boards to create a more level bas

EDIT: also do you have any videos of people doing full suspension hanging and passing out quickly?

 

[JesiBel]

Do you happen to have any advice on placing a ladder like this on wobbly dirt?

Louisville Ladder 6 ' Fiberglass Step, 10' Reach, 225-lb, Load Capacity, W-3217-06 - Walmart.com

Buy Louisville Ladder 6 ' Fiberglass Step, 10' Reach, 225-lb, Load Capacity, W-3217-06 at Walmart.com

www.walmart.com

I tried using two chairs I have in my house but they were both really wobbling when I was doing a test run on the dirt and I even had to jump off one as the chair fell down. The dirts really soft and uneven.

I asked Chatgpt and it suggested to Dig shallow pads or use flat boards to create a more level bas

EDIT: also do you have any videos of people doing full suspension hanging and passing out quickly?

Will you carry that ladder?

The idea of the flat boards is good, to create a solid and stable base. Or thick cardboard, maybe you can get a box that someone has thrown away and make a base with that.

There is a good collection of videos in this thread:

Thread 'Videos of succesful hangings'

(After losing consciousness, some people experience a period of convulsions and spasms. They cannot feel anything because they are unconscious. They are not voluntary movements, but the organism's reaction to the blockage of the supply of oxygenated blood to the brain.)

 

[undo445]

Will you carry that ladder?

The idea of the flat boards is good, to create a solid and stable base. Or thick cardboard, maybe you can get a box that someone has thrown away and make a base with that.

There is a good collection of videos in this thread:

Thread 'Videos of succesful hangings'

(After losing consciousness, some people experience a period of convulsions and spasms. They cannot feel anything because they are unconscious. They are not voluntary movements, but the organism's reaction to the blockage of the supply of oxygenated blood to the brain.)

Yeah, I'll carry the ladder. Thanks, I'm going to use the cardboard that the ladder came in to use that as a base. Remember that tree I posted? There's a back branch that protrudes from it that I'll probably use instead of the right branch that I said I'd use. It would most likely be more covert. I'll test it out tonight

 

[JesiBel]

Yeah, I'll carry the ladder. Thanks, I'm going to use the cardboard that the ladder came in to use that as a base. Remember that tree I posted? There's a back branch that protrudes from it that I'll probably use instead of the right branch that I said I'd use. It would most likely be more covert. I'll test it out tonight

Oh, I thought you found another tree somewhere else.

Be careful, even if you're just testing your materials, if someone sees you or detects any suspicious actions, they could call an authority or come closer to see what you're doing.

It would be nice if you chose another place for the attempt. I don't want to sound paranoid, but it's better not to risk being found.
Don't rush, this is an information forum after all.