Venting Society doesn't want men

[Acidic_Fries]

I went to a Whatsapp group of depressed people that seek love.

I saw the posts there: Men who post about themselves: get no attention.

Women who post there: get lots of emojis.

Why bother?

I'm all for feminism but feminism doesn't make women ask me out. Why should I bother with these Whatsapp groups if when I posted a detailed profile about myself nobody wrote me a DM?

I want to love someone. But it's hard for me to love a woman. Because when YouTube saw that I'm a young man, YouTube brainwashed me with recommendations to Red Pill and MGTOW content creators.

And as a guillble teenager I was stupid enough to fall for YouTube's trap of making me a misogynist.

I think it's because as a kid and a teenager I was asked out by girls multiple times. I thought at the time that because I was able to secure 2 girlfriends that way, I thought that feminism made women want to do the first step, ask men out.

But turns out it was a mirage. Just coincidences.

 

[Higurashi415]

Look bro, in most cases your genitals don't matter. It's true that women get more FAKE sympathy than men. Is that what you're looking for? Fake sympathy? If what you want is ACTUAL sympathy, welcome to the club... it's hard for everybody.

 

[Acidic_Fries]

Look bro, in most cases your genitals don't matter. It's true that women get more FAKE sympathy than men. Is that what you're looking for? Fake sympathy? If what you want is ACTUAL sympathy, welcome to the club... it's hard for everybody.

Thanks for the erudite reply. Sorry, I didn't know till now it was fake empathy/sympathy that women get.

 

[Higurashi415]

Thanks for the erudite reply. Sorry, I didn't know till now it was fake empathy/sympathy that women get.

You're welcome.

 

[violetforever]

I'm all for feminism but feminism doesn't make women ask me out.

i cant tell if this is a troll post or not

 

[JeyJeyOfJeypore]

I went to a Whatsapp group of depressed people that seek love.

I saw the posts there: Men who post about themselves: get no attention.

Women who post there: get lots of emojis.

Why bother?

I'm all for feminism but feminism doesn't make women ask me out. Why should I bother with these Whatsapp groups if when I posted a detailed profile about myself nobody wrote me a DM?

I want to love someone. But it's hard for me to love a woman. Because when YouTube saw that I'm a young man, YouTube brainwashed me with recommendations to Red Pill and MGTOW content creators.

And as a guillble teenager I was stupid enough to fall for YouTube's trap of making me a misogynist.

I think it's because as a kid and a teenager I was asked out by girls multiple times. I thought at the time that because I was able to secure 2 girlfriends that way, I thought that feminism made women want to do the first step, ask men out.

But turns out it was a mirage. Just coincidences.

Arent you lucky. No girls asked me out in school and i didnt have the courage to ask them

 

[volo]

I went to a Whatsapp group of depressed people that seek love.

I saw the posts there: Men who post about themselves: get no attention.

Women who post there: get lots of emojis.

Why bother?

I'm all for feminism but feminism doesn't make women ask me out. Why should I bother with these Whatsapp groups if when I posted a detailed profile about myself nobody wrote me a DM?

I want to love someone. But it's hard for me to love a woman. Because when YouTube saw that I'm a young man, YouTube brainwashed me with recommendations to Red Pill and MGTOW content creators.

And as a guillble teenager I was stupid enough to fall for YouTube's trap of making me a misogynist.

I think it's because as a kid and a teenager I was asked out by girls multiple times. I thought at the time that because I was able to secure 2 girlfriends that way, I thought that feminism made women want to do the first step, ask men out.

But turns out it was a mirage. Just coincidences.

It's true that there is a lot of fakery among in between women. (And I am a female, so I should know). Try to interact with them anyway, and don't expect it to be easy. Dating is always super hard, for everyone (except for the most popular and prettiest people). It is especially hard for sensitive and depressed people. I think society expects softness towards women, and men to be tough. And that's maybe why you see a disparity in the number of emojis. Good luck.

 

[Acidic_Fries]

i cant tell if this is a troll post or not

I'm sorry for the trigger regarding my comment on feminism.

I felt super lonely and as result my judgement I suppose was lackluster while typing my original post.

 

[HollowSoul]

I'm all for feminism but feminism doesn't make women ask me out.

Then you're not and we're not dumb.

So tired of all these incel posts my god

Not even in a suicide forum can we escape misogyny

 

[Acidic_Fries]

Then you're not and we're not dumb.

So tired of all these incel posts my god

Not even in a suicide forum can we escape misogyny

I'm sorry for the trigger regarding my comment on feminism.

I felt super lonely and as I result my judgement was lackluster while typing my original post.

 

[Acidic_Fries]

Arent you lucky. No girls asked me out in school and i didnt have the courage to ask them

Yeah it was indeed just luck. I have no game. I'm a full blown asperger.

 

[somethingisntreal]

Then you're not and we're not dumb.

So tired of all these incel posts my god

Not even in a suicide forum can we escape misogyny

There seems to be an influx of these posts lately.

 

[Acidic_Fries]

There seems to be an influx of these posts lately.

Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

 

[mi_ba_]

Look bro, in most cases your genitals don't matter. It's true that women get more FAKE sympathy than men. Is that what you're looking for? Fake sympathy? If what you want is ACTUAL sympathy, welcome to the club... it's hard for everybody.

this is seriously true... i can't even remember how many times i've met a man who said he just wanted "real love", only to ghost me the second i won't let him hit 3 days after we met. stuff like that really makes me feel like an object.

and then, i see men on the internet wondering why nobody loves them. if men called out other men more often for treating women this way, maybe there wouldn't be so much distrust towards them and women would approach them more.

 

[JeyJeyOfJeypore]

Yeah it was indeed just luck. I have no game. I'm a full blown asperger.

Dammit man. Then i sincerely wish you more luck to come

 

[volo]

Dammit man. Then i sincerely wish you more luck to come

He's probably good looking

 

[Acidic_Fries]

this is seriously true... i can't even remember how many times i've met a man who said he just wanted "real love", only to ghost me the second i won't let him hit 3 days after we met. stuff like that really makes me feel like an object.

and then, i see men on the internet wondering why nobody loves them. if men called out other men more often for treating women this way, maybe there wouldn't be so much distrust towards them and women would approach them more.

I didn't say anything about sex. Don't hijack the thread please. We get it, it's hard for women too. I understand now. Sorry for being a bit too in the nose in my original post. Happy?

 

[CatGoMeyow]

yo bro i gotchya bro. all those guys are being super nice to girls because they want to fuck them. its grim as shit dude. their position should not be envied: they idealize suicide, cut themselves, take drugs, get raped. they get attention because the guys wanna fuck them and project onto them. the women often cant solve their own problems or care for themselves because of their socialized dependency. its not a better life, its just another one of nature's curse. u have to stop looking at them to help u. as a man ur basically just a resource to be extracted from, especially with women. i can say the truth sucks that you're prolly in this spot because nobody can help u. u gotta stop trying for them to help. its not misogynist, the entire world is here to extract from men and leave them with nothing, its not specific to women and it doesnt mean women dont have their own prison. ur despair can be so great that women's role in it is not special or unique. women just dont matter at all when you are hurting this much. the whole gender dynamic is all fucked up and its because the structure machine divided the genders to atomize them and extract from both parties. somehow you have to disconnect from all of this because there's no hope here. there may be hope when you really come to your own isolated aloneness, your real despair, the real unfixable shit about you. that might help you, you might discover something. there is always the recovery thread too. i feel for you bro. don't go down any red pill, incel or any paths that purport to find an answer. dont hate women or try to conquer them. just realize how fucked you truly are and start there. its shitty ass advice but you definitely cant make progress until you give up the false solutions. everybody else is going to be too triggered with this shit with their own issues. you cant really talk about it with anyone without being swept into dark societal paths. you have to come to your own internal brokenness and learn to fucking live there and watch for what force helps you take the next step.

 

[EndlessRage]

I went to a Whatsapp group of depressed people that seek love.

I saw the posts there: Men who post about themselves: get no attention.

Women who post there: get lots of emojis.

Why bother?

I'm all for feminism but feminism doesn't make women ask me out. Why should I bother with these Whatsapp groups if when I posted a detailed profile about myself nobody wrote me a DM?

I want to love someone. But it's hard for me to love a woman. Because when YouTube saw that I'm a young man, YouTube brainwashed me with recommendations to Red Pill and MGTOW content creators.

And as a guillble teenager I was stupid enough to fall for YouTube's trap of making me a misogynist.

I think it's because as a kid and a teenager I was asked out by girls multiple times. I thought at the time that because I was able to secure 2 girlfriends that way, I thought that feminism made women want to do the first step, ask men out.

But turns out it was a mirage. Just coincidences.

Lookism and hypergamy hold all the cards, it's just not you. All men struggle in dating and finding a woman to marry. It is because of unrealistic standards, Height for example. Women have it easier in these fields.

 

[Acidic_Fries]

He's probably good looking

I would have loved to upload my face pic and my autism diagnosis paperwork here but I'm afraid of people who might swat me or make me a lolcow.

I don't know if I'm attractive because I was always afraid of sharing my pictures on social media.

Lookism and hypergamy hold all the cards, it's just not you. All men struggle in dating and finding a woman to marry. It is because of unrealistic standards, Height for example. Women have it easier in these fields.

Ok. Thanks.

 

[EndlessRage]

Then you're not and we're not dumb.

So tired of all these incel posts my god

Not even in a suicide forum can we escape misogyny

Don't demean him by calling him a incel, he is a human being why label a person with a online term? He is a man who just struggles to find love, a lot of men do.

 

[Sans]

Look bro, in most cases your genitals don't matter. It's true that women get more FAKE sympathy than men. Is that what you're looking for? Fake sympathy? If what you want is ACTUAL sympathy, welcome to the club... it's hard for everybody.

I'd rather get fake sympathy than no sympathy at all.

 

[Acidic_Fries]

Don't demean him by calling him a incel, he is a human being why label a person with a online term? He is a man who just struggles to find love, a lot of men do.

Forget it. It's probably a lost cause to try to convince these morons. Women are allowed to vent, we aren't allowed. That's what society dictated cause if you vent your frustrations you are called an 'incel'.

There seems to be an influx of these posts lately.

It's outrageous that women such as yourself are allowed to vent in society but we men, aren't allowed because each time we vent our frustrations we are called 'incels'.

I wonder how equal is that? Is that what feminism supposed to be? You had to choice to let me vent my frustrations in peace without mocking me but it seems that YOU are more equal than others...

 

[iguazo falls]

i think theres a lot of misunderstanding between women and men. i think your comments are a bit insensitive and come off as self centered in saying feminism (liberation of women from historic systematic, sexual and societal oppression) is not serving your own desires, but also i think a lot of dudes feel some flavour of dismissal by society which isn't unwarranted.

people are less connected these days, and algorithms shove awful things about men and women down eachother throats and advertise/perpetuate vanity (both content that is vain and redpill content encouraging others to exploit normie culture and take it to heart). where feminism has encouraged women to see themselves as more independent of gender roles and expectations, i don't think men's roles/expectations have been updated and it causes a huge disparity of what "worth" we have in society. people believe they require a relationship and certain other kinds of things to have status, but also take it personally as self worth. one of the first step i think a lot of dudes have trouble with is empathising with women (being objectified isn't fun, and often comes with a violent undertone, and is persistant from such a young age for many women. it is conditional, and a lot of women act nice to avoid being hurt in unsafe situations which people take as legitimate interest/leading on), but also they have trouble empathising with themselves and other dudes and can't see outside the normie hierarchy which perpetuates itself.

if you are serious about a relationship i would start making more friends rather than using apps and whatnot.

 

[telekon]

Look bro, in most cases your genitals don't matter. It's true that women get more FAKE sympathy than men. Is that what you're looking for? Fake sympathy? If what you want is ACTUAL sympathy, welcome to the club... it's hard for everybody.

This is so true. A lot of those emojis are coming from men who are trying to get laid OP you don't want that from other men

this is seriously true... i can't even remember how many times i've met a man who said he just wanted "real love", only to ghost me the second i won't let him hit 3 days after we met. stuff like that really makes me feel like an object.

and then, i see men on the internet wondering why nobody loves them. if men called out other men more often for treating women this way, maybe there wouldn't be so much distrust towards them and women would approach them more.

while I completely agree and am sorry you went through that, the man who did that to you and the man writing posts like this are not the same person. The crux of a lot of men's struggle is we get blamed for all the bullshit that men do. Men are all coping with mass insecurity and we do that in different ways, but a lot of times men will objectify women and put themselves on a pedestal. but that's not all men, in fact a lot of us would never do that and respect women. Yet we are the ones blamed most, which then creates the "Incel effect" where men go online and talk about how they are jealous of other men — the other men who are clearly doing the evil thing while getting what every man wants, while we get nothing and are blamed for it

Yeah it was indeed just luck. I have no game. I'm a full blown asperger.

My buddy is full blow Asperger but he's a real estate agent now and doing extremely well for himself, maybe try that

 

[JeyJeyOfJeypore]

yo bro i gotchya bro. all those guys are being super nice to girls because they want to fuck them. its grim as shit dude. their position should not be envied: they idealize suicide, cut themselves, take drugs, get raped. they get attention because the guys wanna fuck them and project onto them. the women often cant solve their own problems or care for themselves because of their socialized dependency. its not a better life, its just another one of nature's curse. u have to stop looking at them to help u. as a man ur basically just a resource to be extracted from, especially with women. i can say the truth sucks that you're prolly in this spot because nobody can help u. u gotta stop trying for them to help. its not misogynist, the entire world is here to extract from men and leave them with nothing, its not specific to women and it doesnt mean women dont have their own prison. ur despair can be so great that women's role in it is not special or unique. women just dont matter at all when you are hurting this much. the whole gender dynamic is all fucked up and its because the structure machine divided the genders to atomize them and extract from both parties. somehow you have to disconnect from all of this because there's no hope here. there may be hope when you really come to your own isolated aloneness, your real despair, the real unfixable shit about you. that might help you, you might discover something. there is always the recovery thread too. i feel for you bro. don't go down any red pill, incel or any paths that purport to find an answer. dont hate women or try to conquer them. just realize how fucked you truly are and start there. its shitty ass advice but you definitely cant make progress until you give up the false solutions. everybody else is going to be too triggered with this shit with their own issues. you cant really talk about it with anyone without being swept into dark societal paths. you have to come to your own internal brokenness and learn to fucking live there and watch for what force helps you take the next step.

Probly the only sane post in this thread

Could use some spacers though it was hard af to read

Went through something similar. Then i just laughed at how ridiculous it all was

My solution? If i was talking to myself again:

"Stop caring so much about finding the one or being alone

Talk to girls. Get your social fix, it if leads to more great, if not, then let it go

Accept that trying to get anything from anything external, be it validation or anything else is always unreliable

Alwayd how it is, and always how its gonna be

Have no expectations

Girls use guys as much as guys use girls; prenumbs exist for this reason

Thougb i suppose it wont matter to most ppl since all they do is wanna fuck

Keep the ones that make you smile, and the ones that dont, smiling at them and let them go

Confidence is a vicious cycle so dont be afraid to lie to yourself. If a girl gets to the point of knowing you well enough to see what you really are inside they probly wont mind what they see anyway"

Just my rant

 

[Acidic_Fries]

Guys. I found a solution. I will just not care about women anymore. I just don't care anymore because it's so hard, it's not worth trying.

The chase is not worth the catch. The juice is not worth the squeeze sort of perspective.

 

[JeyJeyOfJeypore]

Guys. I found a solution. I will just not care about women anymore. I just don't care anymore because it's so hard, it's not worth trying.

The chase is not worth the catch. The juice is not worth the squeeze sort of perspective.

Still gotta have a social life though, so why not try to kill 2 birds with one stone?

 

[buriedinmyhead]

Thanks for the erudite reply. Sorry, I didn't know till now it was fake empathy/sympathy that women get.

It is. I will post a vent on reddit, have someone reach out, only for them to just want sex.

 

[katara]

It is. I will post a vent on reddit, have someone reach out, only for them to just want sex.

This has been my experience too and they all have creepy porn stuff on their profiles