SN or phenobarbital...

[nitritegirl]

i know phenobarbital should be much more painless, but the only reason i am asking this is because I don't have time. I can't book an hotel or anything. i only have about 10 hours from the time i take the stuff and the time someone notices i haven't left my bedroom yet. SN seems to be a rapid death while with phenobarbital is slow-acting, even though i'd OD it with lorazepam. that's why i wonder if despite having phenobarbital, i should use SN instead just because of it being faster.

I have metoclopramide which I would take with either method beforehand, and I also have lorazepam which for SN I would take before ingesting it to feel calmer, while for phenobarbital, I'd also OD on lorazepam along with the pheno to increase the gaba effect.

(I do not have SN at the moment, but it is available for purchase here and I have acquired it in the past. I currently have phenobarbital and lorazepam.)

 

[nitritegirl]

any comments? i'm still unsure...

 

[TooMuchHasHappened]

Hi @nitritegirl, have you decided what you're going to do yet?

Can you CTB with just Pheno and Lorazepam?
If so I didn't know that, but I'm interested now.
Did you get them from the Dark Web?

I'm guessing from what you said that you're planning on CTB in your room and you live with people. If so, are you not concerned with the noises you will make after SN ingestion, possible vomiting etc? That would be more concerning to me than staying in my room for an extended period. Would the people you live with not hear you and come to your aid?

If it were me and I had to CTB in my room, even though it took longer, I'd choose the quieter less traumatic option, but I already spend lots of time in my room so it wouldn't seem out of the ordinary not leaving my room for an extended period.

Fortunately, I'm planning on getting an airbnb in as quieter location as possible to reduce, or ideally eliminate, the risk of someone coming to my aid.

 

[nitritegirl]

Hi @nitritegirl, have you decided what you're going to do yet?

Can you CTB with just Pheno and Lorazepam?
If so I didn't know that, but I'm interested now.
Did you get them from the Dark Web?

I'm guessing from what you said that you're planning on CTB in your room and you live with people. If so, are you not concerned with the noises you will make after SN ingestion, possible vomiting etc? That would be more concerning to me than staying in my room for an extended period. Would the people you live with not hear you and come to your aid?

If it were me and I had to CTB in my room, even though it took longer, I'd choose the quieter less traumatic option, but I already spend lots of time in my room so it wouldn't seem out of the ordinary not leaving my room for an extended period.

Fortunately, I'm planning on getting an airbnb in as quieter location as possible to reduce, or ideally eliminate, the risk of someone coming to my aid.

so, you can technically even ctb only with phenobarbital, at least that's what i've seen. that would require 10+ grams and would take a long time, possibily a few days, as it is very slow-acting. but of course adding lorazepam with the pheno would make it faster and enhance the effect a lot.

however i've changed my plan and i'll try to add morphine to the mix. i've made a new post about this:

Post in thread 'The "5-Drug Mix"' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-5-drug-mix.240317/post-3445746

i got them here in my country from a seemingly normal drugstore. phenobarbital is still a prescription drug here (along with lorazepam), but some drugstores don't care and will sell them to you without needing a prescription.

yes i live with other people, and i don't have the possibility to be alone, book an hotel room etc. i didn't think about the noise thing, that's important to consider, i wouldn't want to be found early. vomiting, honestly even if i do pheno etc i will probably vomit too, as that will be lots and lots of tablets, but my plan would be to do it when everyone is asleep, so hopefully nobody would notice.

if i don't leave my room for a bit longer i think i'll be fine too, but i think i have about 12 hours maximum. i'm hoping that will be enough. and great that you found an airbnb, that's very ideal, i wish i could do the same

 

[TooMuchHasHappened]

so, you can technically even ctb only with phenobarbital, at least that's what i've seen. that would require 10+ grams and would take a long time, possibily a few days, as it is very slow-acting. but of course adding lorazepam with the pheno would make it faster and enhance the effect a lot.

however i've changed my plan and i'll try to add morphine to the mix. i've made a new post about this:

Post in thread 'The "5-Drug Mix"' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-5-drug-mix.240317/post-3445746

i got them here in my country from a seemingly normal drugstore. phenobarbital is still a prescription drug here (along with lorazepam), but some drugstores don't care and will sell them to you without needing a prescription.

yes i live with other people, and i don't have the possibility to be alone, book an hotel room etc. i didn't think about the noise thing, that's important to consider, i wouldn't want to be found early. vomiting, honestly even if i do pheno etc i will probably vomit too, as that will be lots and lots of tablets, but my plan would be to do it when everyone is asleep, so hopefully nobody would notice.

if i don't leave my room for a bit longer i think i'll be fine too, but i think i have about 12 hours maximum. i'm hoping that will be enough. and great that you found an airbnb, that's very ideal, i wish i could do the same

Thanks for that information, and link, it's definitely something I'm interested in. However, I've been looking at Nitazenes, apparently they are many times more powerful than fentanyl (apologies if you already know that). I'd never even heard of them until yesterday in another thread, then another member linked the below thread and I'm now I'm very interested, especially because you're supposed to pass out in a state of euphoria and not wake up, and that even with immediate medical attention there'd be no hope, that's how powerful they are. Apparently, even opioid addicts stay clear of these because they're so powerful and it's so easy to die from them. This is just what I've learned from other members, I need to do more research first, because you know what it's like on here, one person says one thing then somebody else says different. It does get confusing.

Thread 'Benzimidazole (Nitazenes) Opioid Megathread'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/benzimidazole-nitazenes-opioid-megathread.231836/

i got them here in my country from a seemingly normal drugstore. phenobarbital is still a prescription drug here (along with lorazepam), but some drugstores don't care and will sell them to you without needing a prescription.

I wish this was the case in the U.K. To my knowledge, Drugstores, or Pharmacies as we call them, would not sell any prescription medication without a prescription. It's even difficult, or sometimes impossible, to get prescribed medication that you actually need and have symptoms for. For example, I have sleep issues and I couldn't even get prescribed Melatonin by my Doctor, but yet when i was living in the US I could buy it off the shelf in Walmart , it's ridiculous. The health service in the U.K. (NHS) has strict guidelines on what medicines can be prescribed, and it can be a nightmare, sometimes impossible, to get what you need. This is why SN would be difficult for me, as I would not be able to get any of the other medications (meto, etc) that I'd need, unless I was able to get them off the Dark Web, but then that creates some other concerns, like counterfeits for example.

yes i live with other people, and i don't have the possibility to be alone, book an hotel room etc. i didn't think about the noise thing, that's important to consider, i wouldn't want to be found early. vomiting, honestly even if i do pheno etc i will probably vomit too, as that will be lots and lots of tablets, but my plan would be to do it when everyone is asleep, so hopefully nobody would notice.

Yes, that's why I thought I'd mention it to you when I realised you live with people and you're not able to get a hotel or anything. In fact, even if you could get a hotel you could still run into problems. I've heard stories of other guests in hotels informing the front desk after hearing someone in distress from an SN attempt, paramedics were called and they survived, so even that could be problematic. Obviously many people do get a hotel and are successful, but you just never know what can happen.

Anyway, that all said, I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry your life has brought you here and you're at this point. It's such a shame that our lives have become so bad that here we are planning our ending, it's sad to me, but in my case I have no other option.

 

[disgustedbyhumanity]

Woah you have barbituates? Where do you get that?

 

[sickofeverything]

Is phenobarbital the same as Phenobarbitone?