tiggles2000
Student
- Jan 15, 2019
- 113
They measure volume, not weight. SN has a different volume to water, so you will not get the quantity of SN you are thinking
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That sucks.....stupid technicalities
tiggles2000
Student
- Jan 15, 2019
- 113
It's not that much different, so if you want 20g, 4 tsp would be very close
Does anyone know of any UK suppliers of sn, primperan and Tagamet?
Pepega
Betaman
- Mar 2, 2019
- 101
tiggles2000
Student
- Jan 15, 2019
- 113
I'm looking at OTC antiemetics available in my country. The most common one is Bismuth subsalicylate, common names are Kaopectate or Pepto-bismal. Would this be suitable to take with SN, or should I stick with primperan or Tagamet?
Pepega
Betaman
- Mar 2, 2019
- 101
just stick to the original method, tagamet is not an antiemetic
Didymus
Clutching at invisible straws
- Dec 11, 2018
- 347
Minudah
Stupid
- Dec 3, 2018
- 1,355
So it's 10mg meto every 8 hours, right? What do you do when you're asleep? Set an alarm to take it?
I think it looks okay
You need meto/Primperan. On eBay there's someone from Greece selling meto, I can pm you the link if you want
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1) is it 100 % sure benzos and sleeping pills are ok with SN? should there be a space gap between taking
meto and (in my case) ranitidine, and benzos/sl. pills?
2) is suffocating even a potential threat during SN poisoning?
meto and (in my case) ranitidine, and benzos/sl. pills?
2) is suffocating even a potential threat during SN poisoning?
As to cimetidine (and some may think meto(clopramide) as well), I found the two articles that seem to me contradictory to what's described in PPH. Does anyone have any comments on this?
PPH says cimetidine should be used for reducing the gastric volume without (much) affecting pH, thus making SN absorbed in the blood stream more quickly. But the articles show meto is more effective for the purpose. It should also be noted that PPH previously encouraged high gastric pH and suggested the intake of sodium bicarbonate.
1. Metoclopramide and cimetidine to reduce gastric fluid pH and volume
80 female patients undergoing outpatient laparoscopy were divided into four equal groups (20 per group) to investigate the effect of cimetidine and metoclopramide on the gastric fluid volume and pH.
Gastric fluid volume and (pH)
The effects on gastric pH and volume of intravenous administration of cimetidine and metoclopramide before induction of anesthesia were studied. Sixty ASA Class I patients scheduled for elective surgery were randomly divided into four groups of 15 each, and the study was double-blinded. Group I received normal saline only; Group II received 4 mg/kg of cimetidine only; Group III received 0.15 mg/kg of metoclopramide only; and Group IV received 4 mg/kg of cimetidine and 0.15 mg/kg of metoclopramide. All drugs were given intravenously 30 min before induction of anesthesia. Gastric aspirates were collected during anesthesia, 30 min and 60 min after administration of the drugs. Metoclopramide reduced gastric volume significantly when administered alone (P = 0.0001), but cimetidine did not (P = 0.10). Cimetidine increased the gastric fluid pH significantly (P = 0.0001) as did metoclopramide (P = 0.0023). The effects of cimetidine and metoclopramide on gastric fluid pH were additive when administered together. The combination of cimetidine and metoclopramide when given intravenously before anesthesia provides greater protection against aspiration pneumonitis in patients at risk than does either drug alone.
PPH says cimetidine should be used for reducing the gastric volume without (much) affecting pH, thus making SN absorbed in the blood stream more quickly. But the articles show meto is more effective for the purpose. It should also be noted that PPH previously encouraged high gastric pH and suggested the intake of sodium bicarbonate.
1. Metoclopramide and cimetidine to reduce gastric fluid pH and volume
80 female patients undergoing outpatient laparoscopy were divided into four equal groups (20 per group) to investigate the effect of cimetidine and metoclopramide on the gastric fluid volume and pH.
Group I: 2 placebo tablets
Group II: 10 mg metoclopramide and 1 placebo tablet
Group III: 300mg cimetidine and 1 placebo tablet
Group IV: 10 mg metoclopramide and 300mg cimetidine
Results 2 hours after taking themGastric fluid volume and (pH)
I: 83.9 +/- 2.3 ml (1.38 +/- 0.12)
II: 11.1 +/- 0.63 ml (2.6 +/- 0.21)
III: 51 +/- 2.33 ml (4.04 +/- 0.32)
IV: 12.05 +/- 0.79 ml (4.64 +/- 0.28)
2. The effects of intravenous cimetidine and metoclopramide on gastric volume and pHThe effects on gastric pH and volume of intravenous administration of cimetidine and metoclopramide before induction of anesthesia were studied. Sixty ASA Class I patients scheduled for elective surgery were randomly divided into four groups of 15 each, and the study was double-blinded. Group I received normal saline only; Group II received 4 mg/kg of cimetidine only; Group III received 0.15 mg/kg of metoclopramide only; and Group IV received 4 mg/kg of cimetidine and 0.15 mg/kg of metoclopramide. All drugs were given intravenously 30 min before induction of anesthesia. Gastric aspirates were collected during anesthesia, 30 min and 60 min after administration of the drugs. Metoclopramide reduced gastric volume significantly when administered alone (P = 0.0001), but cimetidine did not (P = 0.10). Cimetidine increased the gastric fluid pH significantly (P = 0.0001) as did metoclopramide (P = 0.0023). The effects of cimetidine and metoclopramide on gastric fluid pH were additive when administered together. The combination of cimetidine and metoclopramide when given intravenously before anesthesia provides greater protection against aspiration pneumonitis in patients at risk than does either drug alone.
How long does it take to die in the sn method? Is it like Nembutal? Do u just fall asleep? I'm curious I just ordered 2 lbs of it. How much is reacomended to take? Just 15g? What if you are over weight. I'm 300 lbs.
is it a powder u mix w water?
is it a powder u mix w water?
You guys think it's ok to take Tramadol or Oxycodone for pain relief with this method?
He called 911 after 5 minutes. ThAts why it didn't work
mattwitt
# 978
- Jun 28, 2018
- 2,307
Yes of course. And chances are that person may not have taken any anti e's and/or an acid reducer which lead to the reason(s) why they called 911. All 3 of those factors seem to be the common denominators in failed suicide attempts with SN
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Jc40
Specialist
- Mar 3, 2019
- 354
Karangel25 are you in the uk? Can someone hook me up with link for sn? Looking on amazon and not wanting to buy incorrect one. Thanks people.
Jc40
Specialist
- Mar 3, 2019
- 354
I looked on there because people in this thread mention it but was hoping for a direct link! I'll go back to there once had another look through this thread. Thanks.
I went on ebay. Coming from Poland. £12.35. 250g. Has a yellow tint. Said it is 99.9.%. I have don't have the tagamet, is it essential? Will combine olanzapine so I fall asleep and not panic, will also take 2 30mg co codamal for pain.
Will try get omerprazle from doc.
I went on ebay. Coming from Poland. £12.35. 250g. Has a yellow tint. Said it is 99.9.%. I have don't have the tagamet, is it essential? Will combine olanzapine so I fall asleep and not panic, will also take 2 30mg co codamal for pain.
Will try get omerprazle from doc.
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Redrock
Student
- Mar 5, 2019
- 123
3) does anyone have an idea after what amount of time is vomitting ok in the sense of not interfering with the effects of the poison?
4)do you guys (and girls) plan on sleeping through the effects? I'm a horrible sleeper, but still, the idea that anyone can drink some poison and then fall asleep is beyond me. also puking from worrying is a potential threat
(jeez i wish i had some super-lethal dragon-blood poison from a kung-fu flick, this is way too much stress)
4)do you guys (and girls) plan on sleeping through the effects? I'm a horrible sleeper, but still, the idea that anyone can drink some poison and then fall asleep is beyond me. also puking from worrying is a potential threat
(jeez i wish i had some super-lethal dragon-blood poison from a kung-fu flick, this is way too much stress)
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Redrock
Student
- Mar 5, 2019
- 123
You won't vomit.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/departed-with-sodium-nitrite.5613/
Jc40
Specialist
- Mar 3, 2019
- 354
I'll try an sleep through. I plan to take the olanzapine just before taking SN but it usually takes me an hour plus to fall asleep so I think I will encounter the effects that's why taking the co codamal's which also help me sleep. I'll be taking the primpernel (sp) so do I still need to get tagamet? Is vomiting not bad all round? Maybe if you're unconscious and won't be found it will be ok?
I don't know about vomiting, I think I encountered somewhere on the net a case of death where also a large amount of vomit was found - but please don't count on it, maybe I'm completely mistaken, I wouldn't be asking if I knew.
Yea I'm in Thea USA.
Amazon.com : 2 lb Sodium Nitrite Food Grade 99+% Pure Granular Free Flowing Food Processing & Manufacturing : Grocery & Gourmet Food
Amazon.com : 2 lb Sodium Nitrite Food Grade 99+% Pure Granular Free Flowing Food Processing & Manufacturing : Grocery & Gourmet Food
www.amazon.com
This one is recommended by amazon. It's 99%. It's 2 lbs tho.
Jc40
Specialist
- Mar 3, 2019
- 354
I have heard this too but they still died.
I found one from ebay but thanks.
I'm going to use digital scales
Jc40
Specialist
- Mar 3, 2019
- 354
I'll hunt about for it, how do I post a link lol?
Do you mean where somebody vomited and died on the sn from ebay?
Or!
Don't know how to link but go on ebay, type in sodium nitrite 99.9% and it is the 2nd one. I downloaded the picture but don't know how to put up
Do you mean where somebody vomited and died on the sn from ebay?
Or!
Don't know how to link but go on ebay, type in sodium nitrite 99.9% and it is the 2nd one. I downloaded the picture but don't know how to put up
Go to ebay type in sodium nitrite 99.9%, its the 2nd one, coming from Poland.
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Fatal methaemoglobinaemia in a dental nurse. A case of sodium nitrite poisoning.
Methaemoglobinaemia may be caused by ingestion of a number of drugs, among them nitrites, some of which are remarkably toxic. This was tragically highlighted by the death of a 17 year old dental nurse after taking a single 1 g tablet of sodium nitrite. ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I'm looking up articles of people who died from this. It is very fatal. So I'm happy that I can access this sooner than Nembutal.
Jc40
Specialist
- Mar 3, 2019
- 354
Can't find for humans being sick but is it not in a post somewhere here? If not ignore. Pigs are sick but also says peaceful but not human subject. Drugs.com also has info but can't be verified.
