Resource SN megathread

[lshode55]

Does anyone know if omeprazole can be used an acid reducer?

 

[Jaded]

Does anyone know if omeprazole can be used an acid reducer?

Seems like it could

 

[Amira]

Thanks, just settled on that one. I'm not even sure it's genuine ! Powder in a bag, unmarked ? Backup plan ...Shipping can take rather long, I see.

If anyone knows of a better one ... but look at what they are doing: https://www.camlab.co.uk/sodium-nitrite-pure-p15656.aspx#

'
Please Note: You may experience delivery delays when purchasing items from this category. If you are not a registered company, or you have requested delivery to a private address, we are unable to supply these items due to current transport regulations and mandatory Police checks. Please call +44 (0) 1954 233110 for further information. '

What about the website APC pure? I know someone who got sn from there.

 

[Lara Francis]

APC is very reliable as I got mine from there and is 99.5% .

I have been reading the anti emetic protocol but also the potential side effects of talking 4 x the metoclopramide as one dose.
It obviously recommends not to take more than 10mg at one time on data sheets and overdose could result in confusion,halulations ( probably spelt wrong - sorry! ) and changes in levels of consciousness.
I worry that confusion may effect drinking the SN !
Any thoughts appreciated.maybe I am just over thinking things.
Thankyou.

 

[Arak]

What about the website APC pure? I know someone who got sn from there.

Thank you. I just check that option, and I don't see any immediate issues. I just wonder why they wouldn't sell on ebay but would from their website ? Was the person in question in the UK ?

@Lara Francis , You in Europe but not UK ? As I stated above, it would be strange ... I already ordered that other stuff, it's probably legit but still ...

 

[Arak]

Just cross posting a bit...
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/where-did-you-order-your-sn.8655/
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Nurse here. Had to look this one up. Apparently sodium nitrite causes methemoglobinemia.

As methemoglobin levels increase, symptoms continue to get more serious. These can include:

• headache
• shortness of breath
• nausea
• rapid heart rate
• fatigue and lethargy
• confusion or stupor
• loss of consciousness

Guys, this sounds really awful and unpleasant. I don't want anyone to spend their last moments (or more) in pain and panic.'

'It will probably feel like you're dying since you are. Buy you can also feel you very awful from sickness. It's just the final battle, and you need to be prepared for it if you're choosing the sn option. And the effectiveness of sn is pretty good.'

The latter comment really motivates me ! (not!) Especially since it's slow and not like cyanide, and possibly way too easy to call an ambulance.

 

[Cody111]

The loss of concious bit is the one you overlooked. A sedative may help with this, or take well past your normal sleeping time, the affects of the sn dont cause sedation but if you are extremly tired or have taken somthing that makes you sleepy it may enhance those affects.

Point is... you may feel discomfort or dizzy or pain and you can do stuff to help with this, but once you lose conciousness, its over. Death will follow and thats the main outcome we are all striving for.

The meto will help with emptying stomach nausea and vomiting. The taga will help with the absorption and potency.
The faster these both happen the faster loss of conciousness will be.

 

[Crest33]

The loss of concious bit is the one you overlooked. A sedative may help with this, or take well past your normal sleeping time, the affects of the sn dont cause sedation but if you are extremly tired or have taken somthing that makes you sleepy it may enhance those affects.

Point is... you may feel discomfort or dizzy or pain and you can do stuff to help with this, but once you lose conciousness, its over. Death will follow and thats the main outcome we are all striving for.

The meto will help with emptying stomach nausea and vomiting. The taga will help with the absorption and potency.
The faster these both happen the faster loss of conciousness will be.

Is it possible you loose consciousness out of shock/pain?

 

[Lara Francis]

Thank you. I just check that option, and I don't see any immediate issues. I just wonder why they wouldn't sell on ebay but would from their website ? Was the person in question in the UK ?

@Lara Francis , You in Europe but not UK ? As I stated above, it would be strange ... I already ordered that other stuff, it's probably legit but still ...

I am from the UK.

 

[Arak]

I am from the UK.

Ah, well on ebay they stated they would ship to the UK ... so I don't know.

 

[Minudah]

Where should we buy SN from if we're in the US? These European links look a lot more expensive than what I see on US sites, and in my experience European companies won't ship to the US. I see food grade and non-food grade SN, and some of these products have it hidden deep in their product descriptions that they're not pure SN.

Also, what's PPH and how do we find it? My iq is very low (80) so I only understand that I need SN, Tagamet, and the third prescription thing I forget but was going to look into after getting SN out of the way. My iq is too low to do most methods, they're complicated and I don't understand how to not screw up.
"Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you."

 

[Cody111]

Is it possible you loose consciousness out of shock/pain?

It is definitely possible to loose conciousness through pain and shock in extreme circumstances.

I dont think sn would constitute that but everyone is different.

 

[Cody111]

I looked at using an opioid, not much during this but realised it may may reverse the effects of meto. They both play around with dopamine, specifically the D2 receptor.

 

[Arak]

@Minudah ,

' and some of these products have it hidden deep in their product descriptions that they're not pure SN.'

Would you elaborate please ? Aside from not being 100 % SN, are there products that contain substances that obstruct the effectiveness of the product (methylene blue would be an obvious giveaway!) ?

 

[samsays89]

Where should we buy SN from if we're in the US? These European links look a lot more expensive than what I see on US sites, and in my experience European companies won't ship to the US. I see food grade and non-food grade SN, and some of these products have it hidden deep in their product descriptions that they're not pure SN.

Also, what's PPH and how do we find it? My iq is very low (80) so I only understand that I need SN, Tagamet, and the third prescription thing I forget but was going to look into after getting SN out of the way. My iq is too low to do most methods, they're complicated and I don't understand how to not screw up.
"Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you."

Amazon has several suppliers of Sodium Nitrite in US - it's much easier to obtain here than in Europe. From what I've read on the forum, food-grade is better, because other suppliers may have additives or non-reactive SN. However, if it's SN greater than 99% and from a reputable seller, it should be fine.

According to the instructions of this thread, you need three things.
1. Sodium Nitrite (main ingredient)
2. An acid reducer (tagamet) (helps allows SN to work despite stomach acid)
3. An anti-emetic (metoclopramide/primperan) (helps avoid throwing up, I got mine from ebay)

These are just the ingredients. There's also a procedure to follow to make sure you take them in the right order. If you don't take them in the right order, there's an increased chance of suffering. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Most likely violent vomiting, but also maybe headaches or rapid heartbeats. I'm no medical expert.

One of the responses posted something like this:
1. Take 10mg Meto every 8 hours, 3 times a day for about 2 days before.
2. Fast for 8 hours prior to taking SN.
3. 45-60min last dose of Meto 50g this time
4. Take 800mg Tagamet
5. Measure out 20g of SN and stir into 50-100ml of water
6. Stir SN until all the particles have disappeared and drink

 

[Crest33]

Amazon has several suppliers of Sodium Nitrite in US - it's much easier to obtain here than in Europe. From what I've read on the forum, food-grade is better, because other suppliers may have additives or non-reactive SN. However, if it's SN greater than 99% and from a reputable seller, it should be fine.

According to the instructions of this thread, you need three things.
1. Sodium Nitrite (main ingredient)
2. An acid reducer (tagamet) (helps allows SN to work despite stomach acid)
3. An anti-emetic (metoclopramide/primperan) (helps avoid throwing up, I got mine from ebay)

These are just the ingredients. There's also a procedure to follow to make sure you take them in the right order. If you don't take them in the right order, there's an increased chance of suffering. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Most likely violent vomiting, but also maybe headaches or rapid heartbeats. I'm no medical expert.

One of the responses posted something like this:
1. Take 10mg Meto every 8 hours, 3 times a day for about 2 days before.
2. Fast for 8 hours prior to taking SN.
3. 45-60min last dose of Meto 50g this time
4. Take 800mg Tagamet
5. Measure out 20g of SN and stir into 50-100ml of water
6. Stir SN until all the particles have disappeared and drink

I would like to pick in on the meteo Tagamet part.

I though it was. One tablet of acid reducer for a week. Then 40 minutes before sn take the recommended amount of anti-emetics. Have an empty stomach. But I'm not sure about this.

 

[Arak]

I think I asked this somewhere else at some point, but why taking meto for days ? Does it need to 'build up' for effect ??

 

[Cody111]

After asking about why the antiemetic needed to be a dopamine blocker and getting no viable response id say its recommended to take for a few days to block those receptors.
In the same way tsking a dugs for a few days, each day after day you would need more to bind to those receptors to feel the high. Then one last large dose to ensure you got it covered.

This is all my own theory as i was unable to find an answer for the type of antiemetic and done my own research.

There is a few different types of stomach acid reducers. Some reduce the production of acid in the stomach walls. Taking these leading up to may be benificial. Others straight up change the acidity once they are in. There i cant see how taking for days prior would help.

 

[Cody111]

I would like to pick in on the meteo Tagamet part.

I though it was. One tablet of acid reducer for a week. Then 40 minutes before sn take the recommended amount of anti-emetics. Have an empty stomach. But I'm not sure about this.

The meto is the anti vomiting med.
Taga is antacid.

Not sure if you getting these mixed up or taking them as the same thing.

 

[Arak]

After asking about why the antiemetic needed to be a dopamine blocker and getting no viable response id say its recommended to take for a few days to block those receptors.
In the same way tsking a dugs for a few days, each day after day you would need more to bind to those receptors to feel the high. Then one last large dose to ensure you got it covered.

This is all my own theory as i was unable to find an answer for the type of antiemetic and done my own research.

There is a few different types of stomach acid reducers. Some reduce the production of acid in the stomach walls. Taking these leading up to may be benificial. Others straight up change the acidity once they are in. There i cant see how taking for days prior would help.

Strange idea. No offense.

 

[Cody111]

Strange idea. No offense.

I could be completly wrong.
But when you look at anti psychotics or anti depressants, they are mostly some from of receptor antagonist (be it dopamine or seritonin) and take a while to build and take effect. If a dopamine antiemetic is needed over an antihistamine based antiemetic it may hold true.

Could be wrong, as i said i asked questions and didnt really get an answer so did my own research. Im no chemist.

 

[Minudah]

@Minudah ,

' and some of these products have it hidden deep in their product descriptions that they're not pure SN.'

Would you elaborate please ? Aside from not being 100 % SN, are there products that contain substances that obstruct the effectiveness of the product (methylene blue would be an obvious giveaway!) ?

This one specifically says it's "100% sodium nitrite" https://www.ebay.com/itm/100g-bag-o...607002&hash=item1ebfa9fac1:g:uMEAAOSw-itXvqZf but the description shows that it's not. They don't even say what they added, and it's all I can find that even claims to be 100% sodium nitrite. http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eB...tegory=258005&pm=1&ds=0&t=1539171090000&ver=0

Amazon has several suppliers of Sodium Nitrite in US - it's much easier to obtain here than in Europe. From what I've read on the forum, food-grade is better, because other suppliers may have additives or non-reactive SN. However, if it's SN greater than 99% and from a reputable seller, it should be fine.

According to the instructions of this thread, you need three things.
1. Sodium Nitrite (main ingredient)
2. An acid reducer (tagamet) (helps allows SN to work despite stomach acid)
3. An anti-emetic (metoclopramide/primperan) (helps avoid throwing up, I got mine from ebay)

These are just the ingredients. There's also a procedure to follow to make sure you take them in the right order. If you don't take them in the right order, there's an increased chance of suffering. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Most likely violent vomiting, but also maybe headaches or rapid heartbeats. I'm no medical expert.

One of the responses posted something like this:
1. Take 10mg Meto every 8 hours, 3 times a day for about 2 days before.
2. Fast for 8 hours prior to taking SN.
3. 45-60min last dose of Meto 50g this time
4. Take 800mg Tagamet
5. Measure out 20g of SN and stir into 50-100ml of water
6. Stir SN until all the particles have disappeared and drink

Do you know the name of the supplier? I couldn't find anything on Amazon that even claimed to be pure SN, no matter what I look up I keep getting these SN mixes. Thank you for laying that out for me, I'm pretty confused by this thread. I've been trying to kill myself most of my life but don't have the intelligence to understand methods right.

 

[Crest33]

The meto is the anti vomiting med.
Taga is antacid.

Not sure if you getting these mixed up or taking them as the same thing.

Yes we are talking about the same thing. I've just not really an idea why you should take anti-emetics days before ctb.

I do know that you should take acid reducers before the ctb.

 

[NoOneKnows]

Can anybody share the latest PPeh version on SN ? Thanks

 

[Crest33]

Can anybody share the latest PPeh version on SN ? Thanks

https://anonfile.com/Y6r094j3b2/oct_hand_zip

 

[NoOneKnows]

https://anonfile.com/Y6r094j3b2/oct_hand_zip

Thank you! <3

 

[Arak]

@Crest33 ,

Maybe time for the November edition of the ppeh ?

 

[Kingkelly]

If I dont have scale to measure our 15g how can I measure it? Like tablespoons?

 

[Crest33]

@Crest33 ,

Maybe time for the November edition of the ppeh ?

I should look deeper for that.

 

[Crest33]

If I dont have scale to measure our 15g how can I measure it? Like tablespoons?

I'm also not sure I'f my kitchen scale is accurate enough.