Resource SN megathread

[Jc40]

I'm thinking of just doing a stat dose of this, putting in in capsules like person did. Once the container is opened it is worthless right?
Am waiting on Amitriptyline coming and more bottles. Thinking I could do SN through capsules, is bright idea really. Have everything but the capsules, what size do they need to be for 25g?
My brain is fried currently so can someone post answers to this simply and what the stat dose would be and order of it, please as simply put as possible. Thank so much.

 

[Lizzy199075]

It will need to be a dopamine antagonist unfortunately, which promethazine is not.

But what's the rationale behind using a dopamine antagonist.... Prob mean what's it purpose. Thanks

 

[Fin]

But what's the rationale behind using a dopamine antagonist.... Prob mean what's it purpose. Thanks

There are multiple mechanisms for vomiting, so there is no universal antiemetic. Each particular antiemetic targets a specific vomiting mechanism. Promethazine is an antihistamine, so it works through the histaminic receptors and the cholinergic receptors. It is suitable for travel sickness but not for the prevention of drug-induced vomiting as that type of vomiting is triggered by other neurotransmitters. Dopamine is one of them, so you will need an antidopaminergic drug (a dopamine antagonist). You have three such antiemetics to choose from: prochlorperazine, metoclopramide and domperidone.

 

[NoOneKnows]

I'm thinking of just doing a stat dose of this, putting in in capsules like person did. Once the container is opened it is worthless right?
Am waiting on Amitriptyline coming and more bottles. Thinking I could do SN through capsules, is bright idea really. Have everything but the capsules, what size do they need to be for 25g?
My brain is fried currently so can someone post answers to this simply and what the stat dose would be and order of it, please as simply put as possible. Thank so much.

- maybe you can buy or find at home Vitamin C extended slow release pills and empty the capsules ?

 

[Escaper Boy]

Thinking I could do SN through capsules, is bright idea really. Have everything but the capsules, what size do they need to be for 25g?

I used size 0 capsules. I made like like 25~32 capsules to reach 32g of total combined mass. Not sure about the net mass of SN inside, probably 25g or so.

 

[hamednova]

Can anyone upload the livesteam Philip Nitschke did on 28 april 2019 Netherlands 16:00 [11 pm] I NEED IT.
You can upload the zip to a bunch of sites.
Im looking for it in yt and vimeo now but im not finding anything

 

[Vegrau]

I need maybe sleeping pills or something intoxicating so I dont really realize what I will do. I really scared if I end up suffering and being conscious while this happens.

Hypoxia will make sure youre unconscious. Without oxygen to the brain it will shut down pretty fast.

 

[pleasethistime]

i sent a question to a local seller about percentage of purity. the answer is it is "pure" and food grade. so is it 100%?

 

[Done182]

Hypoxia will make sure youre unconscious. Without oxygen to the brain it will shut down pretty fast.

How fast do you reckon?
Does the SN need to be 100% for it to work? I think mine is 98%

 

[Jc40]

I used size 0 capsules. I made like like 25~32 capsules to reach 32g of total combined mass. Not sure about the net mass of SN inside, probably 25g or so.

I've ordered them. How long approximately can they be left without being taken? I'll put them in a sealed bag in cupboard.

How fast do you reckon?
Does the SN need to be 100% for it to work? I think mine is 98%

98% should be fine.

 

[Done182]

Thanks, Does anyone mow how long you lose consciousness after taking SN?

 

[Escaper Boy]

I've ordered them. How long approximately can they be left without being taken? I'll put them in a sealed bag in cupboard.

I have to be honest. I encapsulated my SN few days ago, but when I touched it yesterday, the surface texture was kinda "gooey" or "moist/slightly wet". I stored my SN capsules in sealed plastic bag.

So, I guess SN capsules doesn't really "last long". My advice is, only put your SN inside the capsules 1 day before your ctb day.

 

[Jc40]

Thanks, Does anyone mow how long you lose consciousness after taking SN?

12-15 mins I think. I looked back this thread then gave up.

 

[clover___]

Thanks, Does anyone mow how long you lose consciousness after taking SN?

It's not long at all from memory, admittedly time perception in semi-conscious states isn't the most reliable thing though. If there were logs from the old shoutbox somewhere I could tell you reasonably accurately since I live-posted about my last attempt but alas.

 

[Redrock]

It depends on a lot of things. 12-20 mins

 

[Karangel25]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

Yea what is the regimen before taking it and such

 

[Raggas]

Yea what is the regimen before taking it and such

It's on the wiki (you should also fast 4-8 hours before SN).

Antiemetics

Stat dose (60 minutes before SN intake)

• 3 * 10 mg Metoclopramide

or

Ahead regimen (48 hours before SN intake)

• Take 10 mg Metoclopramide every 8 hours, i.e. 3 times per day, starting 48 hours in advance.


Acid Regulators

Stat dose (30 - 45 minutes before SN intake)

• 800 mg of Tagamet (Cimetidine)

or

• 3 * 75 mg Zantac (Ranitidine)

 

[Karangel25]

Thanks!

 

[Raggas]

Anyone know if either of these two SNs will work?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100g-Sodium-Nitrite-TECH-GRADE-Meat-cure-product/322048948552
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100g-Sodium-Nitrite-Technical-grade/132615365595

 

[Jc40]

Anyone know if either of these two SNs will work?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100g-Sodium-Nitrite-TECH-GRADE-Meat-cure-product/322048948552
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100g-Sodium-Nitrite-Technical-grade/132615365595

They both look dodgy colour but just my opinion. I'm not sure.

 

[jayfox]

APC blocked my order as expected.

 

[elcade]

In Poland there's legit supplier if u would like to order, just go to 'allegro.pl', type 'azotyn sodu', PM the supplier if he ships abroad, search for 99% purity.

tried this one 2 days later (so right now) they canceled my order with no reasons..

 

[drakewantstogo]

I took SN. If anyone wants to know: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/took-sn-heres-my-story.15395/

 

[Fin]

APC blocked my order too. Their response is in the attachment.

 

[Yuri]

Still 0,5$ for 100g at 99,3% purity here, bunch of local suppliers selling without questions

 

[hamednova]

Still 0,5$ for 100g at 99,3% purity here, bunch of local suppliers selling without questions

You live in southeast asia?

 

[Yuri]

nah, Russia

 

[elcade]

It's on the wiki (you should also fast 4-8 hours before SN).

Antiemetics

Stat dose (60 minutes before SN intake)

• 3 * 10 mg Metoclopramide

or

Ahead regimen (48 hours before SN intake)

• Take 10 mg Metoclopramide every 8 hours, i.e. 3 times per day, starting 48 hours in advance.


Acid Regulators

Stat dose (30 - 45 minutes before SN intake)

• 800 mg of Tagamet (Cimetidine)

or

• 3 * 75 mg Zantac (Ranitidine)

anyone knows if it's very different to take as acid regulator esomeprazol?
tagamet is not available anymore in my country

 

[Fin]

anyone knows if it's very different to take as acid regulator esomeprazol?
tagamet is not available anymore in my country

Do not take any proton pump inhibitor (PPI) with SN! That is, NO omeprazole, esomeprazole, pantoprazole or any other -prazole drug. The blood pressure-lowering effect of ingested SN is blocked by pretreatment with a PPI. Moreover, it is advised to stay away from these drugs for at least 2 weeks before the SN attempt.

You may take ranitidine or famotidine if they are available in your country. There is no cimetidine either where I'm from.

 

[elcade]

Do not take any proton pump inhibitor (PPI) with SN! That is, NO omeprazole, esomeprazole, pantoprazole or any other -prazole drug. The blood pressure-lowering effect of ingested SN is blocked by pretreatment with a PPI. Moreover, it is advised to stay away from these drugs for at least 2 weeks before the SN attempt.

You may take ranitidine or famotidine if they are available in your country. There is no cimetidine either where I'm from.

ok thx i have my antiémétic just need to buy some ranitidine ( lucky me i don't need prescription for this one !)

So i was wrong haha i need a prescription for that and ill not have this one i checked my doctor too many time with lies so without the possibility to have ranitidine or any H 2 antihistaminics what can i do
antiemetic isnt enough no ?