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jayfox

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This is bad I just ordered and now I've seen the link is off the wiki .

Damn I hope they send mine.

Where are you from elcade?
 
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overandout

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I wonder if they are becoming more strict with countries outside the UK.
This is bad I just ordered and now I've seen the link is off the wiki .

Damn I hope they send mine.

Where are you from elcade?

Did you order off eBay or their website? What country are you from?
 
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elcade

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Apr 13, 2019
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I wonder if they are becoming more strict with countries outside the UK.


Did you order off eBay or their website? What country are you from?
i tried but there is no SN on ebay from them lot of chemicals but not SN
 
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jayfox

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I wonder if they are becoming more strict with countries outside the UK.


Did you order off eBay or their website? What country are you from?

Site. Portugal.

If it's off the wiki that's a real bad sign.. damnit...
 
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overandout

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It's still on eBay @elcade

Look for international sellers if not from UK
 
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jayfox

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It's still on eBay

Look for international sellers if not from UK

I just ordered mine today I'll see what happens , hope luck is on my side
 
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overandout

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Phillip Nitschke revealed in the video that he told APC that he wanted to use Sodium Azide for end of life type thing was researching it, spoke about air bags previously containing it. He has also ordered SN from APC (as revealed in the video) so perhaps now APC have cottoned on to what people want to use SN for...
I just ordered mine today I'll see what happens , hope luck is on my side

Good luck! It will be interesting to see if you do get it and if you do, strange that you can recieve it but not @elcade
 
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jayfox

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Phillip Nitschke revealed in the video that he told APC that he wanted to use Sodium Azide for end of life type thing was researching it, spoke about air bags previously containing it. He has also ordered SN from APC (as revealed in the video) so perhaps now APC have cottoned on to what people want to use SN for...


Good luck! It will be interesting to see if you do get it and if you do, strange that you can recieve it but not @elcade

If he didn't get it I doubt I will. I'm really pissed.
 
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elcade

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Phillip Nitschke revealed in the video that he told APC that he wanted to use Sodium Azide for end of life type thing was researching it, spoke about air bags previously containing it. He has also ordered SN from APC (as revealed in the video) so perhaps now APC have cottoned on to what people want to use SN for...


Good luck! It will be interesting to see if you do get it and if you do, strange that you can recieve it but not @elcade
This item does not ship to France that's why i cannot see or buy it on Ebay
the only buyer that i find i bought his stuff but i'm very worried because the two tests of reliability that I did ( put some on my finger or check with a blood sample) arent conclusive. (no burn at all or blue skin same with my blood )
I'm so nervous right now
 
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jayfox

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This item does not ship to France that's why i cannot see or buy it on Ebay
the only buyer that i find i bought his stuff but i'm very worried because the two tests of reliability that I did ( put some on my finger or check with a blood sample) arent conclusive. (no burn at all or blue skin same with my blood )
I'm so nervous right now

So you bought from the APC site and not the eBay one right?

How accurate a test it is to use your blood to if it changes colour?
 
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overandout

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This item does not ship to France that's why i cannot see or buy it on Ebay
the only buyer that i find i bought his stuff but i'm very worried because the two tests of reliability that I did ( put some on my finger or check with a blood sample) arent conclusive. (no burn at all or blue skin same with my blood )
I'm so nervous right now

Ah that's such a shame. I tried a tiny bit of SN from APC, it's very strong stuff...a few specs, felt immediately nauseous and did feel a burn. I am tempted to test my blood. How did you do it exactly? Prick your finger and?
 
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elcade

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So you bought from the APC site and not the eBay one right?

How accurate a test it is to use your blood to if it changes colour?

yep from the APC site .

it's very accurate because it's supposed to work like this ( talking about the blood sample test)
so i cut my finger put the blood on a recipient and add a tiny (but significative ) sample of my supposed SN
I even tried to taste it but it's just a weird salt for me, no side effects .
 
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overandout

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yep from the APC site .

it's very accurate because it's supposed to work like this ( talking about the blood sample test)
so i cut my finger put the blood on a recipient and add a tiny (but significative ) sample of my supposed SN
I even tried to taste it but it's just a weird salt for me, no side effects .

What does yours smell like?
 
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overandout

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almost nothing!

Mine has a strong smell, will probably try the blood test thing out and will let you know if colour changes. It would be interesting to hear what other peoples experiences of what their SN is like..
 
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jayfox

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Mine has a strong smell, will probably try the blood test thing out and will let you know if colour changes. It would be interesting to hear what other peoples experiences of what their SN is like..

Where are you from?

Let us know the blood test results later
 
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jayfox

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Interesting. I ordered from them 2 days ago. My package will arrive next tuesday. They didn't ask anything, but they sent a tutorial about hazardous chemicals. It was their direct website, not ebay.

Thanks
So I guess they only started stopping the sales yesterday . They don't ship to me on eBay either.
England, will do

Thanks!
 
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when buying off ebay is there even a way to make sure

  1. you're getting real SN
  2. it's purity is what it says it is

most pics ive seen the packaging looks really amateurish, looks like it was done in someone's basement or something, this puts a lot of doubt in my head
 
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jayfox

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when buying off ebay is there even a way to make sure

  1. you're getting real SN
  2. it's purity is what it says it is
most pics ive seen the packaging looks really amateurish, looks like it was done in someone's basement or something, this puts a lot of doubt in my head

Same the one I ordered looked like crap
 
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Escaper Boy

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when buying off ebay is there even a way to make sure

  1. you're getting real SN
  2. it's purity is what it says it is
most pics ive seen the packaging looks really amateurish, looks like it was done in someone's basement or something, this puts a lot of doubt in my head

This is exactly the thing I'm worried about. I am so scared my SN is actually different substance. I don't really care about purity, I can just increase the dose if the purity is lower. But, I have no way to know/test the SN.

From physical evaluation, my SN is odorless, white-yelowish crystals similar to regular salt. But, it doesn't cause skin irritation. Putting small amount in my mouth doesn't cause anything dramatic.

I was thinking to do other evaluations like measuring mass per volume or even testing its flammability.

If only we know an easy chemical reaction to test it. I think I will study more about it, hopefully I can learn something new.
 
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jayfox

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This is exactly the thing I'm worried about. I am so scared my SN is actually different substance. I don't really care about purity, I can just increase the dose if the purity is lower. But, I have no way to know/test the SN.

From physical evaluation, my SN is odorless, white-yelowish crystals similar to regular salt. But, it doesn't cause skin irritation. Putting small amount in my mouth doesn't cause anything dramatic.

I was thinking to do other evaluations like measuring mass per volume or even testing its flammability.

If only we know an easy chemical reaction to test it. I think I will study more about it, hopefully I can learn something new.

You can do the blood test like some of us discussed above.
 
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Escaper Boy

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I guess I will do the blood test tonight. I dislike cutting or bleeding, but I think I have no choice at this point.
 
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jayfox

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I guess I will do the blood test tonight. I dislike cutting or bleeding, but I think I have no choice at this point.

Don't , just buy some pointers for diabetics that make you bleed a small blob of blood.

Should be available in any pharmacy
 
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I guess I lucked out in the last minute ordering from apc... It's a shame that they stopped shipping. At least with them you knew it was the real deal. We are running out of trustworthy sources :( Good luck to everyone.
 
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clover___

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Mar 24, 2019
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It appears that suppliers are catching on more now. My guess is that SN will soon be restricted. The authorities and businesses WILL find a way.
It's interesting you say this, because I tried ordering more sn from the Australian Ebay seller I bought from last time and the sale was declined, and I had a second American seller refuse to sell to me as well. Ended up getting some from a UK seller this time on the third attempted purchase. All this talk about possible fake sn is making me suspicious though so I will see about testing this batch. I can verify the last one I got was the real thing lol but it seems they're no longer shipping internationally, maybe someone tipped them off. The package had been searched by customs though so the other possibility is that they had been liable for fees because of that and didn't want to go through that again, or were just suspicious about me ordering more so soon.
I guess one good thing is I do know the taste of the real thing from last time. I'd describe it as salty but not quite like table salt, a bit of an almost meaty/umami note to it.
 
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It's interesting you say this, because I tried ordering more sn from the Australian Ebay seller I bought from last time and the sale was declined, and I had a second American seller refuse to sell to me as well. Ended up getting some from a UK seller this time on the third attempted purchase. All this talk about possible fake sn is making me suspicious though so I will see about testing this batch. I can verify the last one I got was the real thing lol but it seems they're no longer shipping internationally, maybe someone tipped them off. The package had been searched by customs though so the other possibility is that they had been liable for fees because of that and didn't want to go through that again, or were just suspicious about me ordering more so soon.
I guess one good thing is I do know the taste of the real thing from last time. I'd describe it as salty but not quite like table salt, a bit of an almost meaty/umami note to it.
Did you get food grade last time? Does that affect taste?
 
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clover___

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Did you get food grade last time? Does that affect taste?
Yup, certified food grade according to the label. I guess the purity could affect the taste, but I'm no expert. Also I only tasted it dissolved in water so I guess that's another variable.
 
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