SN is not a dignified way to die

[Vizzy]

I mean that in that sense committing suicide is not dignified at all which therefore involves all methods.

You saying that ctb is not dignified irrespective of whatever the method is ?

Tbh upon my own research SN has a high successful rate, if I could get it easily where I live I would have gotten it myself…. I tried to look online and all they wanted was only people from legit companies…

Try to ship it from other countries

 

[JensenX]

Lol, what actions in life are 'dignified'? Stop eating and drinking when you're old? What kind of an option is that? Author sounds a little heartless, tbh

"when you're old"? When are you old? That's the most stupid method I've ever heard of. I'm 64 so I might or might not be old, but when I'm ready, I want to binge on as much chocolate and ice cream as I can get my hands on. I'll clog my arteries with as much junk food as I can swallow.

I mean that in that sense committing suicide is not dignified at all which therefore involves all methods.

Choosing the time and place of your death is a lot more dignified than dying of old age or some chronic disease... in many cases being kept alive with various drug cocktails. Death has become extremely undignified for most people these days with the intervention (or perhaps interference) of modern medicine.

 

[Valky]

You saying that ctb is not dignified irrespective of whatever the method is ?

Yesn't, I am saying that in connection to OP's post of SN not being a dignified way to die. If you look at it like that that most methods aren't which also makes suicide not dignifying in itself, no matter what method.

However, since that is not the case for SN, it isn't for everything else. You know?

Choosing the time and place of your death is a lot more dignified than dying of old age or some chronic disease... in many cases being kept alive with various drug cocktails. Death has become extremely undignified for most people these days with the intervention (or perhaps interference) of modern medicine.

Yes, I fully agree

 

[Vizzy]

Yesn't, I am saying that in connection to OP's post of SN not being a dignified way to die. If you look at it like that that most methods aren't which also makes suicide not dignifying in itself, no matter what method.

However, since that is not the case for SN, it isn't for everything else. You know?

Yes, I fully agree

Two peaceful methods for ctb are

N Nembutal which is hard to find right now literally impossible to find and expensive

Insert gas method is peaceful and painless but requires preparation, patience and other equipments to do it correctly

Finally clinically assisted suicide, where they will use opioids to put you sleep then they add in more opioids so you just die while you sleeping (mostly for terminally ill)

 

[Valky]

Two peaceful methods for ctb are

N Nembutal which is hard to find right now literally impossible to find and expensive

Insert gas method is peaceful and painless but requires preparation, patience and other equipments to do it correctly

Finally clinically assisted suicide, where they will use opioids to put you sleep then they add in more opioids so you just die while you sleeping (mostly for terminally ill)

Uhm. I am not new to methods but thanks..

 

[Vizzy]

Uhm. I am not new to methods but thanks..

There are no other painless and reliable way available

Sn is not bad as far as my research

Jumping, train can be painless and reliable but si will kick in

Car accident are good if done correctly, I just gave all the options

 

[Valky]

There are no other painless and reliable way available

Sn is not bad as far as my research

Jumping, train can be painless and reliable but si will kick in

Car accident are good if done correctly, I just gave all the options

HELLO SIR. I think you just missed my point and that is okay.

 

[Vizzy]

HELLO SIR. I think you just missed my point and that is okay.

My bad I thought you meant you know those methods and want to know some new methods lol

 

[TeflonMummy]

Hello. I'm sorry you're having seizures, it's terrible.... But tell me, please, did I understand correctly that the single pain that exists before seizures / after seizures / during seizures is a severe headache?

Occurs after during the aftermath phase of a seizure. I've only personally experienced headaches, muscle soreness, bruising (if I was standing up right prior), and on one occasion a panic attack. The headache in question is definitely debilitating at least for me. Id rank it higher than a migraine in terms of pain.

There are a lot of other complications post-seizure that can effect people in a lot of different ways, however I have no personal experience with them. People I know who've also had NES and ES have experienced muscle strain, loss of bowel control, memory loss, and varying levels of abdominal pain. In one case I know of from the support group I'm in someone had to be hospitalized after a fall caused by loss of consciousness that fractured the rim of one of their orbital bones.

Seizures can also induce suffocation due to airway blockages caused by spit or vomiting.

 

[Aisley]

"when you're old"? When are you old? That's the most stupid method I've ever heard of. I'm 64 so I might or might not be old, but when I'm ready, I want to binge on as much chocolate and ice cream as I can get my hands on. I'll clog my arteries with as much junk food as I can swallow.

Yeah, the author seems to have lived some unnatural life where they never encountered anyone over fifty. Maybe they saw some on tv? But they don't know any in person. It's a horrible thing to say.
Good luck with your heart attack. I started this method years ago, so I got a bit of a lead on you.

 

[Kerrtu]

But the op didn't even justify by saying yes it is not peaceful but not bad, op just entirely named the topic "sn is not a dignified way to die" that's where the problem arise because that's a huge accusation made on a sn method which was successfully used by the past members to ctb and it is hurtful to hear for the recent members who are doing research on sn for ctb

Inert gas method involves more research than sn because many people don't even know about different gases, when you start to research about inert gas without any knowledge it gonna sound like a new language and execution is hard, sn is not bad when it comes to preparation to ctb

Ppeh gave sn 8/10 for peacefulness but inert gas method got only 7/10

I saw the title first, and visited the thread mainly to see if anyone else found the title to be straight out the gate judgemental. Also OP's line "SN is not a humane or dignified way to CTB. Sorry you guys." Just absolutely off putting. I figured this person was a pro life troll and maybe they are, but this post is whack.

I'm still planned to use SN. What matters to me is that it works. OP claiming "the SN death struggle can take 40 hours" - I find that claim suspect. If true, my guess is the person took less SN than the amount required for a much more quick death, lingered unconscious for a while, and if they died, maybe it was asphyxiation by way of vomit? If they were attempting outdoors, did they die from hypothermia? Or maybe the person didn't die of Sodium Nitrite, but of Sodium Nítrate poisoning? A lot of questions I have with that claim.

Overall - post feels a lot like fear mongering, which I've noticed a bit of an uptick lately in pro life posts and/or comments.

If SN doesn't work for me, which I feel confident it will work, my next chosen method is tourniquet asphyxiation. I'd jump, but I don't want to give my father the satisfaction. The last time I spoke to him, he raged out and told me to "jump off a fucking bridge".

 

[Vizzy]

I saw the title first, and visited the thread mainly to see if anyone else found the title to be straight out the gate judgemental. Also OP's line "SN is not a humane or dignified way to CTB. Sorry you guys." Just absolutely off putting. I figured this person was a pro life troll and maybe they are, but this post is whack.

I'm still planned to use SN. What matters to me is that it works. OP claiming "the SN death struggle can take 40 hours" - I find that claim suspect. If true, my guess is the person took less SN than the amount required for a much more quick death, lingered unconscious for a while, and if they died, maybe it was asphyxiation by way of vomit? If they were attempting outdoors, did they die from hypothermia? Or maybe the person didn't die of Sodium Nitrite, but of Sodium Nítrate poisoning? A lot of questions I have with that claim.

Overall - post feels a lot like fear mongering, which I've noticed a bit of an uptick lately in pro life posts and/or comments.

If SN doesn't work for me, which I feel confident it will work, my next chosen method is tourniquet asphyxiation. I'd jump, but I don't want to give my father the satisfaction. The last time I spoke to him, he raged out and told me to "jump off a fucking bridge".

Sorry hope you find the peace using the sn

Just follow the procedures on how to take sn properly then everything will go as planned and sn works as there are a lot of past members who used sn for ctb

 

[absolomonisgone]

Excuse me because my english is not that good.

SN is not a humane or dignified way to CTB. Sorry you guys. It is a fair warning
This is according to a book from a dutch psychiatrist named Uitweg by Boudewijn Chabot.
In this book there are 3 ways described how to humanely CTB.
There is also a chapter about SN called toxic cocktail. Even if you use anti vormit tablets, a pain killer and benzo's with the SN the death struggle can last up to 40 hours. With convulsions and epeleptic seizures. Sometimes SN is peacefull but you take a risk.

The advised methods are:
Stop eating and drinking when you are old
Medications using a combination of a lethal drug and sleep medicine
Using an inert gas such als helium or nitrogen gas

I recommend getting the book if you understand the dutch language. It very detailed
Boudewijn Chabot- Uitweg

my friend, we understand that your life sucks..., and it's also understandable that you want a lot of people to have a sucking life like the one you are having....., you know..., 2 and half kids, a house in the suburb, a car, brainwashing education, feeling so average superior going to that job you hate ...or that business of yours you sell houses..or? worse, telling people how to sell houses ..or what?(fix- whatever). ...my friend, enjoy your misery alone. ENJOY. NOBODY BUYING YOUR MISERABLE LIFE. Enjoy your misery. ALONE.

I saw the title first, and visited the thread mainly to see if anyone else found the title to be straight out the gate judgemental. Also OP's line "SN is not a humane or dignified way to CTB. Sorry you guys." Just absolutely off putting. I figured this person was a pro life troll and maybe they are, but this post is whack.

I'm still planned to use SN. What matters to me is that it works. OP claiming "the SN death struggle can take 40 hours" - I find that claim suspect. If true, my guess is the person took less SN than the amount required for a much more quick death, lingered unconscious for a while, and if they died, maybe it was asphyxiation by way of vomit? If they were attempting outdoors, did they die from hypothermia? Or maybe the person didn't die of Sodium Nitrite, but of Sodium Nítrate poisoning? A lot of questions I have with that claim.

Overall - post feels a lot like fear mongering, which I've noticed a bit of an uptick lately in pro life posts and/or comments.

If SN doesn't work for me, which I feel confident it will work, my next chosen method is tourniquet asphyxiation. I'd jump, but I don't want to give my father the satisfaction. The last time I spoke to him, he raged out and told me to "jump off a fucking bridge".

this idiot should get a life and do whatever keeps him/her living..., like jerking off, crying, ..., generally being an idiot...., the type you see all over in offices, universities, schools, work place, etc. sorry people sadder than sadness who don't want to acknowledge their reality....., at least here at sasu, we accept and acknowledge reality.

 

[Little_Suzy]

The only way to "die with dignity" is to imitate falling asleep.

SN is the lethal chemical needed to cause death, and it's not taken alone.

This is why SN is used with other drugs to prevent vomiting and headaches, as well as anti-anxiety meds to keep calm and induce sleep.

 

[absolomonisgone]

The only way to "die with dignity" is to imitate falling asleep.

SN is the lethal chemical needed to cause death, and it's not taken alone.

This is why SN is used with other drugs to prevent vomiting and headaches, as well as anti-anxiety meds to keep calm and induce sleep.

the picture/video of you looks nice. that's only good thing about you.

 

[Little_Suzy]

the picture/video of you looks nice. that's only good thing about you.

What? I said something you didn't like?

 

[absolomonisgone]

What? I said something you didn't like?

not really. .., just thought you were anti- SN. now i see you aren't.

 

[Vizzy]

not really. .., just thought you were anti- SN. now i see you aren't.

I won't say @Little_Suzy is anti-sn but like to give politically correct answers lol

 

[absolomonisgone]

I won't say @Little_Suzy is anti-sn but like to give politically correct answers lol

being pc is a big reason to want to ctb. ctb people hate political correctness.

 

[Sad Avocado]

What does SN mean? (I'm new to the website). And what do you think about jumping? I mean if done from a good height is pretty istantaneous and quick and you don't risk to be left paralyzed or in a vegetative sate.

 

[Kerrtu]

my friend, we understand that your life sucks..., and it's also understandable that you want a lot of people to have a sucking life like the one you are having....., you know..., 2 and half kids, a house in the suburb, a car, brainwashing education, feeling so average superior going to that job you hate ...or that business of yours you sell houses..or? worse, telling people how to sell houses ..or what?(fix- whatever). ...my friend, enjoy your misery alone. ENJOY. NOBODY BUYING YOUR MISERABLE LIFE. Enjoy your misery. ALONE.

this idiot should get a life and do whatever keeps him/her living..., like jerking off, crying, ..., generally being an idiot...., the type you see all over in offices, universities, schools, work place, etc. sorry people sadder than sadness who don't want to acknowledge their reality....., at least here at sasu, we accept and acknowledge reality.

Update: I originally asked if I was the idiot in question but I no longer care if absolomonisgone thinks I'm an idiot, calls me an idiot, etc.

Also, Abe, I don't have a penis to jerk off. Appreciate the presumption, but no…no penis here. Your bit about how "here at sasu, we accept and acknowledge reality" gave me Marshall Applewhite vibes. You sound like a Heaven's Gate member who missed the flight.

 

[Little_Suzy]

the picture/video of you looks nice. that's only good thing about you.

I disagree with the OP since all of the "Good-Bye posts" concerned SN. Some of these people were communicating privately with another member. These members often provide "SN feedback" comments, which are typically positive. On SaSu, SN in conjunction with Stan's guide does not seem to be a problem. OP is fear-mongering.

being pc is a big reason to want to ctb. ctb people hate political correctness.

Do you even know what political correctness means?

Political correctness is a term used to describe language, policies, or measures that are intended to avoid offense or disadvantage to members of particular groups in society. Being politically correct, or PC for short, is saying or doing things in ways that will not cause offense regarding race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, and other aspects of identity.

People who are suicidal come to this website seeking information.
It's ridiculous to say "pc" comments on this site are reasons to ctb.

 

[Zegers]

Fuck Boudewijn Chabot

 

[JensenX]

If SN doesn't work for me, which I feel confident it will work, my next chosen method is tourniquet asphyxiation. I'd jump, but I don't want to give my father the satisfaction. The last time I spoke to him, he raged out and told me to "jump off a fucking bridge".

I don't know your father, but he probably didn't mean it did he? If you do jump off a bridge, he might feel guilty for the rest of his life. Is that ok by you?

 

[tiredangelgirl]

as someone that's had an ed I really don't think starving yourself is less uncomfortable than sn lol

 

[Kerrtu]

I don't know your father, but he probably didn't mean it did he? If you do jump off a bridge, he might feel guilty for the rest of his life. Is that ok by you?

He's abusive and racist. A narcissist who avoids change. If he felt guilt for the rest of his life, for the years of verbal and physical abuse, I wouldn't believe him. This is a person who screamed at me when he found out I was bulimic - he was more concerned about the cost of food, the waste of food. This is a person who rages out so frequently, he broke my mothers leg then ripped the phone from the wall when my sister tried calling 911.

(Haven't binge-purged since 2016)

We haven't seen or spoken to each other in nearly 2 years - ever since he told me to jump off a fucking bridge, among other things.

Would I be ok with him feeling guilt for the rest of his life? I'd be dead, I wouldn't feel anything.

 

[whatevs]

Stop eating and drinking when you are old... I dunno, sounds too vague. This likely only applies to really, really old people, and sounds more like death due to old age than suicide.

 

[JensenX]

What? I said something you didn't like?

In my case, I was distracted by the strawberries and cream and didn't read a word. I'd kill for strawberries like that.

 

[diyCTB]

From this article (Page 2, Discussion, 2nd paragraph): "Nitrite is also a potent vasodilator and can
cause coronary ischemia and stroke as a result of hypotension, tachycardia, and hypoxia."

I am including 160mg of beta blocker in my static dose. Beta blocker is vasodilator too. Will it increase the risk of aforementioned conditions?

SN is uncomfortable and requires a very strict regimen before use but it is reliable, in addition it is still less painful and risky than many other methods.

Is 8-hour fast where you take static dose not good enough?

 

[Vizzy]

I am including 160mg of beta blocker in my static dose. Beta blocker is vasodilator too. Will it increase the risk of aforementioned conditions?



Is 8-hour fast where you take static dose not good enough?

Big no, don't include beta blockers in the sn procedure, beta blockers gonna affect your sn absorption

Why you want to change something which is already working

The only way to "die with dignity" is to imitate falling asleep.

SN is the lethal chemical needed to cause death, and it's not taken alone.

This is why SN is used with other drugs to prevent vomiting and headaches, as well as anti-anxiety meds to keep calm and induce sleep.

You can take sn alone, no need of other drugs

There are cases where people took sn with otc medicine