SN From IC Europe - Local Police Just Called Me

[Meliæ]

I am hoping you're right...hoping. It's unfair how this worry will now rob so many of us of sleep for the coming days and weeks.

No. They would have done it at the first time, they would not let us the opportunity to hide it
They don't want the sn they just want to know who's dead or alive and have our phones so if something happens they know and put on the list of charges against that poor seller in Canada

It sounds to me as though they thought you were in possession of something far more serious than sn . They either misunderstood what it is or thought you were actually planning to build a bomb

It doesn't make any sense for them to send the resources they did for a wellness visit

Yes

 

[Superdeterminist]

No. They would have done it at the first time, they would not let us the opportunity to hide it

I hope so. But what if they only didn't do it because they didn't have a warrant, and getting a warrant takes some time

 

[aleph_zero]

I think this is horrible, it's unforunate that they are showing up like that especially since most people are living with someone. I worry about the consequences and impact this has on those who live with their family and who have to explain what is going on or why the cops are showing up asking for them. I can't imagine how stressful, potentionally traumatizing and unexpectful this must be for everyone who's ordered from IC.

That's what I'm worried about. If I get a visit it's over, I'm getting commited. My parents know what it is since I've already attempted once.

I didn't use my home address though, I picked up the package in a post office, but I did email him a photo of my ID.

I wonder if they're using billing addresses to find people or if it's IDs

 

[Elan123]

I'm in Germany. Received my visit around 8:30 AM today. They started the convo by asking if I had ordered a 'suicide kit' which I negated. Continued to ask if I had received a package with something in it that could be used for suicide but I denied that as well. They didn't ask to come inside and search my flat but instead wanted to have my phone number if anything else might come up so they can rather call me than pay a visit. The thought of giving my phone numbers to the authorities bothered me endlessly but since I got nothing to hide and receiving a call is a bit more comforting than having the police standing right in front of my door I fucking gave in.

They also mentioned that they were here last night but I was at work (night shift) and it seems they asked my frickin neighbours about me to check if I'm OK/alive. Fucking hell. Nothing more embarrassing than my neighbors thinking that I'm some weird suicidal guy who got into legal troubles.

That's appalling speaking to your neighbours. All of these visits are pure harassment and intimidation. They don't care about the wellbeing of anyone they just want to build their case against KL. They want to know if anyone has committed suicide or is thinking about doing it so that they can add the names to their charges.

They likely want peoples' phone numbers for the same reason so that they can check and see if they're still alive later on.

 

[woknows]

I would not want to live in a world where people do not care if you kill yourself or not. One of the main issues with our society is that nobody actually cares for the welfare of most other people.

 

[thankyou]

It sounds to me as though they thought you were in possession of something far more serious than sn . They either misunderstood what it is or thought you were actually planning to build a bomb. Hazmat suits to retrieve a meat curing agent?

It doesn't make any sense for them to send the resources they did for a wellness visit

Facts. The local police admitted they had no clue what this was all about. The FBI gave them little details. And because I live in a quiet area, they called all reinforcements, because they have nothing better to do. It was totally unnecessary.

 

[lionetta12]

That's what I'm worried about. If I get a visit it's over, I'm getting commited. My parents know what it is since I've already attempted once.

I didn't use my home address though, I picked up the package in a post office, but I did email him a photo of my ID.

I wonder if they're using billing addresses to find people or if it's IDs

The ID requirement was not in place at the time of when I ordered from IC so I never had to show it. So I assume it's the billing address or the address you are registered to live at in government archieves. My SN was also sent to a local post office and not to my home so I picked it up there as well.

 

[Thisisme373]

I had police at my door today, I was taken by surprise, they said you're not in trouble but we need to talk to you can we come in and speak. They asked me about a substance or kit I ordered online, said they had been notified by authorities. I improvised, I was worried about possibly being sectioned or having to hand over my "safety net". I told them I did but since flushed it and am not as bad now mentally, they didn't press more about what it was, they was talking to me more about how I am now. I was scared they was going to ask to search my room but they didn't. Overall they was ok but this really took me by surprise. I can see it seems many others are having authorities at their door who ordered :( I'm scared to order antiemetics now I feel like I'm on the radar more in a way.

 

[Obliviate]

Adding to this that local cops sent two cop cars, two firetrucks, an ambulance, a therapist, and 5+ people in hazmat suits entered my apartment to retrieve the SN. It was a SCENE. But they were nice enough to not ring the bell and knock? They called me first. And they did not have their lights and sirens on. But there were ~15 people total. I think it's because my local services are just bored that they all got unnecessarily involved.
Like I was happy they sent the crisis counselor because they hooked me up with so many free psychiatric resources that weren't inpatient and were nice but like … are we going to do this when people order ropes? Jfc. And the seller does not deserve all this trouble. Also, what about in places where the authority services are corrupt? They don't have mental health professionals working with cops everywhere in the United States. And what if your home isn't a safe space and all those service men showed up? Like I'm lucky but this is problematic…

This is fucking insane and outright outrageous, which country are you in? Hazmat suits is actually fucking hilarious IT'S A FUCKING SALT! Their dramatic for what this is so funny plz. SN cannot be used for a bomb/explosives it is not combustible and it would not be this legal and easy to get especially when it is FOR LITERALLY FOOD AND GARDENING AS IT IS ANTIMICROBIAL. I am literally laughing at how far and ridiculous these prolifers will go but do LITERALLY NOTHING for actual crime and victims.

 

[thankyou]

This is fucking insane and outright outrageous, which country are you in? Hazmat suits is actually fucking hilarious IT'S A FUCKING SALT! Their dramatic for what this is so funny plz. SN cannot be used for a bomb/explosives it is not combustible and it would not be this legal and easy to get especially when it is FOR LITERALLY FOOD AND GARDENING AS IT IS ANTIMICROBIAL. I am literally laughing at how far and ridiculous these prolifers will go but do LITERALLY NOTHING for actual crime and victims.

USA, small town. A call from the FBI is like the event of the century for them.

 

[Relic]

SN cannot be used for a bomb/explosives it is not combustible

While not flammable, it is an oxidizing agent. It seems to be their main excuse for harassing people, while ignoring the fact that there are several more in many households. Like peroxides, halogens, nitrates, permanganates, and possibly even more.
Suicide statistics are a dimly lit area, and they would like it to stay that way. Without all this noise in the media they would let people have that option.

 

[Sm42]

Yes they entered my place and searched for the SN. I told them where it was. But they didn't force themselves in because I admitted to them it was there and told them they could take it. Once I told them that…. then they said if I don't give it to them, I would be involuntarily committed. I was worried sick because I genuinely lost one package. They also cited that it's a bomb making substance too (??) so it's best I get rid of it if I didn't want them coming again. So kinda threatening.
I had to give it up and couldn't resist because they showed up and said I ordered a suicide kit right in front of my partner who was already suspicious of the package. If I didn't give it to them my partner would've.

Police came also to my place asking for SN. I decided to give it them peacefully.
They told me that I wouldn't have any problem with the law because it was still a legal substance. But they drove me to the mental hospital. Luckily I was able to go back home

 

[Meliæ]

No news from the police it has been three days, no phone call nor they came back

Did someone had another visit or phone call ?

 

[Dot]

No news from the police it has been three days, no phone call nor they came back

Did someone had another visit or phone call ?

Sme ppl hve hd sme rpeatd vists bt = lks lke thy r in th/ minorty

 

[enviro400mmc]

Thanks to the police for publicly embarrassing me by parading my name around my old Uni accommodation where I ordered the SN. Absolutely fantastic way to jeapordise any ability I have to recover and make me want to ctb even more.

 

[Dot]

Thanks to the police for publicly embarrassing me by parading my name around my old Uni accommodation where I ordered the SN. Absolutely fantastic way to jeapordise any ability I have to recover and make me want to ctb even more.

Srry tht u xperncd tht - anothr ss uni studnt also xpercnd thr nme b-ing annound ovr a mga-phne

Hpeflly tht xpernce shld b ovr nw

 

[GasMonkey]

Sme ppl hve hd sme rpeatd vists

What was the difference between 1st, 2nd, etc visits?

 

[Dot]

What was the difference between 1st, 2nd, etc visits?

Additnl infrmatn mstly

1 persn in usa ws vistd agn bcse thre wre a concntr8td numbr of ppl in thr area wh/ purchsd s.n & thy wantd 2 fnd out whre evry1 hrd of IC frm

Sme ppl in Canda hve bn givn opportunty 2 gve testmnies if thy wn2

 

[QuietEnd]

I was visited at 11:30pm at night. Police banging on door and shining lights through windows after I'd clearly gone to bed and no-one was awake. I refused to open the door but spoke through a window to them. Managed to get them to go away. In the UK police have the right to force entry for a welfare check so not talking to them wasn't an option.

What I'm very concerned about is where this information has come from as I've NEVER been in contact with this supplier at all. So they must be getting information from somewhere else.

I've spent the time since feeling traumatized and not really able to sleep or rest as keep expecting them to come back and try and section me under the mental health act.

 

[Rogue Proxy]

They won't go near him, because he's going to try and make a buck out of them.

Now there's a cruel and unusual punishment for them! That creep could either keep them as exotic pets, hook them up to a sleigh on Christmas time, or even make hunting videos involving them - and no one would be the wiser. All for that irresistible sweet, sweet clout!

 

[ThisIsLife]

@RainAndSadness Can the prolifers who are behind all this be banned from the site? Is the Suicide Discussion forum open to everyone right now or just registered users? These people are so freakin' proud of themselves but don't realize they've only further traumatized people who are already suffering. And likely, they've just pushed more people to CTB sooner in an effort to avoid having wellness checks done on them (or done again.)

They're crazy ass blood-thirsty awfull beings. They don't care about people.

 

[Yavannah]

They're crazy ass blood-thirsty awfull beings. They don't care about people.

& they call us mentally unstable
when they are clearly in need of professional help themselves!
seems they get off of our hurtings and the difficulties they are causing us #SADISTS
they really think that all SS members are evil psychopaths wanting minors to commit suicide.
they dont see as as vulnerable suffering individuals who just want to end our pain.
im so sick of this!!!

 

[ThisIsLife]

& they call us mentally unstable
when they are clearly in need of professional help themselves!
seems they get off of our hurtings and the difficulties they are causing us #SADISTS

Exactly, and the more they do what they're doing, the worse the people they pretend to help are feeling. Many members will die sooner than they wanted to and/or by a violent painfull method because of this; if they didn't already.

This is so sad and unfair. I'm disgusted by such people, hiding behind their so called morals; they already have a lot of blood on their hands and sleep like babies at night thinking they did good.

 

[GasMonkey]

I've NEVER been in contact with this supplier at all

You were, via EM.
EM & IC were managed by the same guy.

 

[Jadzia]

I had a welfare check from the police a few days a go
they rang me. I bought my SN last October. They wouldn't say why they were ringing though, buy this is the only reason it can be. I live in England.

 

[Elan123]

USA, small town. A call from the FBI is like the event of the century for them.

This is what it sounds like. However surely they could have asked a few questions about what they had been asked to retrieve. Apart from anything else that's a pure waste of taxpayers money.

I had a welfare check from the police a few days a go
they rang me. I bought my SN last October. They wouldn't say why they were ringing though, buy this is the only reason it can be. I live in England.

They wouldn't say why they were calling? What exactly did they say? How did they explain the reason for calling you? They need to have some sort of justification for making a wellness check.

Additnl infrmatn mstly

1 persn in usa ws vistd agn bcse thre wre a concntr8td numbr of ppl in thr area wh/ purchsd s.n & thy wantd 2 fnd out whre evry1 hrd of IC frm

Sme ppl in Canda hve bn givn opportunty 2 gve testmnies if thy wn2

so basically just gathering more evidence for their case against KL.

 

[QuietEnd]

You were, via EM.
EM & IC were managed by the same guy.

Well that makes much more sense, but EM is valves - mine never got delivered. I appreciate that understanding thanks @GasMonkey

 

[Meliæ]

I'd they come back I will just tell them to go to hell

 

[Nangijala]

I'll update here if anything happens at least

Still no police visit here (in Netherlands) despite ordering from IC couple of months ago, would be great if they didnt come at all. Curious whether anyone from NL has had a visit?

 

[aleph_zero]

Has anyone had a second visit so far? The first one went alright for me but I'm worried that they might come back.

They didn't even mention SN explicitly, just called my parents and asked them to let them in or take me to the police station. They explained that they'd received some kind of a report from Canada but didn't go into details. There was a police officer and some social workers and they basically just pretended to care about my life for 20 minutes.

I wonder why they called my parents though. I'm in my twenties.