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Apr 27, 2022
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I've actually got enough SN for 4 attempts but If I didn't & couldn't get any more in the UK. Or if I couldn't get another ctb method, then I prob would. Not quite there yet though thankfully...

...But actually I will keep this in mind just in case :wink:
 
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I've actually got enough SN for 4 attempts but If I didn't & couldn't get any more in the UK. Or if I couldn't get another ctb method, then I prob would. Not quite there yet though thankfully...

...But actually I will keep this in mind just in case :wink:
I've probably got enough sn for 40 attempts or so since I did buy 2 500g bottles this past week though I do intend to test one and leave the other for ctb. Yeah an unnecessarily excessive amount but it's cheap anyway.

So if you couldn't get another ctb method then you would?
 
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I've probably got enough sn for 40 attempts or so since I did buy 2 500g bottles this past week though I do intend to test one and leave the other for ctb. Yeah an unnecessarily excessive amount but it's cheap anyway.

So if you couldn't get another ctb method then you would?
I've only got 100grams, enough for 4 attempts! Should be enough though.
 
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I'm posting this here as a resource. I ingested a small amount of SN last month to gauge the discomfort of the effects and it was surprisingly mild. I didn't measure exactly but I scooped some on the edge of a spoon and ate it with applesauce. all of the described symptoms took place in the span of about 40 minutes and I did have to go to the hospital afterwards. anyway, here's what I noticed physically and how I felt:

1. ate the sn. it tasted salty, as expected, but didn't hurt going down or anything. I did get some heartburn but nothing unbearable.

2. I noticed my heart rate starting to go up slightly but this happened pretty slowly, it was about 5 minutes before I was even sure it was happening. I began to have a bit of trouble breathing as well but it was barely noticeable and again, I wasn't sure if I was imagining it until about 10 minutes after ingesting. it doesn't feel like suffocating, it feels more like your chest is heavy, like there's a cat lying on it.

3. about 20 minutes in, I noticed my mouth felt very dry and at this point, I was manually breathing. I was a bit scared but I wasn't in any pain, it was actually more scary how subtly it felt. my heart was racing harder at this point and I could feel it in my throat. my fingers and toes felt numb at this point and I felt like I was seeing spots in my vision and started feeling like I was going to pass out. my blood pressure drops sometimes and the feeling was very similar. I felt dizzy and nauseous but still no physical pain for me. my head was throbbing a lot too but it just felt like pressure. I also noticed that I was shaking really hard, possibly shivering? I didn't notice feeling cold but my adrenaline was going at this point so I wasn't really paying attention anyway.

4. 30 minutes in I started to really have trouble staying conscious and decided to call a friend because I began to panic a bit. I was having trouble forming words mostly out of panic but it was also a bit more difficult to speak than I expected. I was gasping for air at this point and my heart was still racing. I attempted to stand and realized I was unable to so I decided to lie down instead. I felt no significant physical pain or discomfort outside of my panic but I was coughing a bit at this point which did cause some slight discomfort. it may not have been the sn as I usually cough during panic attacks so it could have been that but I figure I'll mention it anyway.

this was my experience. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it since and it brought me a lot more peace about my method and the effectiveness of my sn. It was extremely bearable until I started panicking but I'm planning to take something for that beforehand. I hope this is helpful to someone else.
Thank you very much. But what symptoms do you think you'll get with the right quantity? And how long will it take to have effect? Do you have any expectations?
 
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losing hope

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Apr 27, 2022
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I've probably got enough sn for 40 attempts or so since I did buy 2 500g bottles this past week though I do intend to test one and leave the other for ctb. Yeah an unnecessarily excessive amount but it's cheap anyway.

So if you couldn't get another ctb method then you would?
I remember you saying before you were in a country where SN isn't yet restricted. Are you able to kindly advise which country that is? I am think of flying to somewhere like Poland or Portgual if I need to get more SN.

In regards to an alternative ctb method. I'm trying to choose something that has a different ROA than SN, so NOT oral. The plan being, I might try & combine 2 ctb methods together to really "get the job done". So Shallow water blackout / hanging (full) and jumping all appeal, as they can never be banned. But each has its own drawback.

If I can get my hands on H or F then I would pay through the roof and learn to IV or boof if I need to. Travelling to South America for N seems unnecessary when one can get F apparently easily in North America. But keeping tabs on how avaliable N still is.
I've only got 100grams, enough for 4 attempts! Should be enough though.
Yes I would have thought so, but I personally always like to have a backup.
 
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I've probably got enough sn for 40 attempts or so since I did buy 2 500g bottles this past week though I do intend to test one and leave the other for ctb. Yeah an unnecessarily excessive amount but it's cheap anyway.

So if you couldn't get another ctb method then you would?
Could you pm me what country did you order sn from? I was wondering if we have if from the same source (probably not, chances are low but still I'm curious).
 
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Dec 10, 2023
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Very helpful thread, thanks very much for posting your experience.

I'm glad you're doing okay after that
risky decision and are feeling more peaceful about it.


If you don't mind my asking . I have several questions.

How did you convince them not to keep you past the 72 hour hold ?


is there something safe you think we could use to replicate the taste of SN ?
Like maybe Himalayan salt ?

How well did the apple sauce cover the taste of SN ?

Do you think that the applesauce made it more likely for you to throw up ?
 
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Jan 2, 2023
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I've probably got enough sn for 40 attempts or so since I did buy 2 500g bottles this past week though I do intend to test one and leave the other for ctb. Yeah an unnecessarily excessive amount but it's cheap anyway.

So if you couldn't get another ctb method then you would?

I've got enough for 100+ attempts. :ehh:

Why are some people saying this? What's the purpose? Lol
 
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M.O.N

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Aug 9, 2023
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I'm so grateful to you for posting your experience. I hope you haven't experienced any longer term side effects.
thank you for the kind words, I'm just glad I can help contribute to the community since it's been so helpful to me
Very helpful thread, thanks very much for posting your experience.

I'm glad you're doing okay after that
risky decision and are feeling more peaceful about it.


If you don't mind my asking . I have several questions.

How did you convince them not to keep you past the 72 hour hold ?


is there something safe you think we could use to replicate the taste of SN ?
Like maybe Himalayan salt ?

How well did the apple sauce cover the taste of SN ?

Do you think that the applesauce made it more likely for you to throw up ?
I'm glad I could be helpful, I hope this brings a bit of peace to you too. to answer your questions:

1. The hospital I was at was overcrowded so I think that helped but I did tell them repeatedly that I tried to purge the substance but couldn't, that I didn't have any urge to die and just had a moment of irrationality, and that I wanted to see my friends and family to calm their minds and talk things out. I think I mostly just got lucky with the space issues they were having though.

2. I'm not sure how salty Himalayan salt is but if it's saltier than table salt then I imagine it'd be similar, it's just super salty and bitter.

3. The applesauce didn't cover it as much as I'd hoped but having the sweetness definitely made it easier to get down.

4. I didn't have any issues with it but I'd imagine it depends on the person. I don't throw up easily but someone who does might find the applesauce to be another thing to worry about
 
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