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itsallover

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I still don't understand..there are no reports can find of perm damage..either death or reversal? But nothing in between?
Hey already put it in your food in small amounts. You can even die just from a shot glass of regular salt. It'll be a lot more painful though.
 
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mattwitt

mattwitt

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Jun 28, 2018
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Sure, I agree and strongly urge people to take antiemetics, and I'll do so myself if I end up going for SN.

What I'm saying is that sn seems to be so reliable that it's possible (maybe not certain) that you will die even if you end up vomiting. Saying that throwing up necessarily leads to failure is incorrect.

I agree with this... Every failed attempt I've read about on here which is only like 3 or 4 people all said they started vomiting but they also ended up getting medical attention and that's what ultimately saved their lives. In Axorz case they said they immediately started vomiting so my first thought was they puked up all the SN which may or may not be the case. Using this method is all about rapid gut absorbtion of the SN. I don't know if that takes seconds or minutes but once your guts absorb the stuff I guess you can puke all you want and you won't have to worry about vomiting out the SN. The only problem with this method that I see is that you could be in a world of hurt really quick and for hours... Possibly for over 24 hours before you finally die. And when that happens there's always the concern that you could be found before you die or even call for an ambulance yourself or have someone else call for an ambulance for you because you can't take the pain anymore.
 
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mattwitt

mattwitt

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Jun 28, 2018
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Over the counter anti emetics won't work... They work entirely differently and I'm not sure they'd work on sn induced vomiting

I was able to find and purchase 1 OTC anti e that works as a dopamine antagonist as a last resort.
 
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Slayer

Slayer

Member
Sep 13, 2018
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My method is SN but I'm afraid of failing and ending up in a psychiatric hospital.
 
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weedoge

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I was able to find and purchase 1 OTC anti e that works as a dopamine antagonist as a last resort.
How does it rank up against the others? Risk of EPS? Anyway nevermind me you know it already
 
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OfficerK

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mattwitt

mattwitt

# 978
Jun 28, 2018
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Meclizine won't be enough. There are different types of dopamine neurotransmitters, and Meclizine doesn't target the ones that Metoclopramide does.
Yes... It only targets 1 out of 3 that Meto does but it also targets 1 that Meto doesn't. If I had my choice I would definitely take the Meto
 
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TengoK

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Aug 1, 2018
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Comment above earlier said Diazepam doesn't work or reacts against SN. Where's the evidence of that? Can anyone point me to it? Diazepam is what I'm intending to use. Any idea what I should as a benzo instead? And how much? Suddenly rather scared about this method. Damn.
 
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IfHeDiesHeDies

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Sep 12, 2018
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Comment above earlier said Diazepam doesn't work or reacts against SN. Where's the evidence of that? Can anyone point me to it? Diazepam is what I'm intending to use. Any idea what I should as a benzo instead? And how much? Suddenly rather scared about this method. Damn.

https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+757

diazepam is only used for seizures and cannot reverse the build-up of MetHb in the blood which is what kills you by depriving your body of oxygen.
 
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amatteroflifeordeath

Electrical engineer born in 1980.
Jul 18, 2018
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What you should take into consideration is that you only have the testimonials of those who failed. But since those who succeeded can't really comment, it gives you the impression that most fail.

Also, never neglect the fact that the person telling the story can't be 100% objective and can't be trusted. Take everything that is said with a grain of salt (me included). Many will hide what they did wrong on purpose, it is simply humane to not put one's self down.

But I appreciate to see that many people are not just taking this version as hard facts and asking the right questions.
 
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axorz

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Aug 5, 2018
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How do you feel after these 25 days?

Has it made you want to go into recovery or are you still focused on leaving this life?
i want to die
 
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Ashpac

Ashpac

Lost and always will be.
Jul 22, 2018
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So it hasnt helped. Im sorry to hear that.

I was wondering which way it would go since its been 25 days.

You and I feel the same.

If you ever wanna talk, message me.
 
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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
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@OfficerK ,

What about domperidone or Zofran ? Would those work for SN ? metocl... is something that I will most likely be unable to get.
 
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TengoK

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Aug 1, 2018
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So does anyone know of a benzo that *will* reliably work with SN? I went through a whole load of hassle a month or so ago to get Diazepam off the dark net (mainly because I've never had a driving license and I don't have a current passport to be able to buy bitcoin), but now according to that link above it won't work as it won't reverse the build-up of MetHB in the blood. So now I'm completely confused. Damn. Anyone?
 
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Readytoendit

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Sep 29, 2018
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I'm so sorry that your still feeling bad @axorz . If your brother didn't find you do you think you'd be dead right now? Hope your being treated well in the hospital.
 
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caffeine

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Jun 21, 2018
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So does anyone know of a benzo that *will* reliably work with SN? I went through a whole load of hassle a month or so ago to get Diazepam off the dark net (mainly because I've never had a driving license and I don't have a current passport to be able to buy bitcoin), but now according to that link above it won't work as it won't reverse the build-up of MetHB in the blood. So now I'm completely confused. Damn. Anyone?
You are misunderstanding that post. You don't want to reverse the build-up of MetHb. Diazepam will be fine.
 
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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
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Diazepam likely won't be very sedating unless you have no tolerance and the dose is very high.
 
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TengoK

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Aug 1, 2018
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You are misunderstanding that post. You don't want to reverse the build-up of MetHb. Diazepam will be fine.

Thanks. Not surprised I was misunderstanding it. I'm no science / medication expert AT ALL. And while I know people are trying to be helpful here, sometimes it's like they're speaking a different language.
 
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TengoK

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Aug 1, 2018
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Diazepam likely won't be very sedating unless you have no tolerance and the dose is very high.

I've barely ever taken it before, so have almost no tolerance for it. And I have quite a sizeable stock of it after a dark web purchase. Reason I was enquiring about a different benzo is I was trying to order them off the dark web too, but my understanding of bitcoin and dark web markets is pretty much zero, and in the state of mind I'm in at the moment I'm not really understanding anything.

UPDATE: Brain fog dissipated. Just the internet being slow. Finally ordered some Klonopin. Roll on it getting here soon.
 
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axorz

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Aug 5, 2018
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i will try again before 2019 ends, i will try to keep you update. But it will be hards because i live with my father and cant get again it easy


next time i will try full antiemetic regimen instead of just 30 min before
 
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bag.of.cats

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cappuccinogirl

Experienced
Aug 11, 2018
245
I have some OTC anti e's I've experimented with and they took at least 45 minutes before I could feel them kick in.
Hi what otc ones have you tried. Do u they'll be strong enough for sn. Thanks x
 
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mattwitt

mattwitt

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Jun 28, 2018
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Hi what otc ones have you tried. Do u they'll be strong enough for sn. Thanks x
I tried Dramamine (original) and I have Dramamine 2 (less drowsy version) that I haven't tried yet. The original version works in your stomach. The less drowsy version contains Meclizine which is a dopamine antagonist at D1-like and D2-like receptors in your brain.
https://nootriment.com/dopamine-receptors/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meclizine

I thought about taking both versions of Dramamine with SN because I had no access to Metoclopramide.

Unfortunately I have no idea if either one of those by themselves or together will prevent vomiting after ingesting SN

I don't recommend ingesting SN without Metoclopramide and Cimetidine (Tagamet)
 
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Karl

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Oct 14, 2018
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there are chances that the purity of sn decreased
 
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diyCTB

Mage
Oct 28, 2018
573
you bought sn of poor quality or it degraded gradually and what you ingested was more nitrate than nitrite

It can degrade when exposed to air for more than 24 hours.
 
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diyCTB

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Oct 28, 2018
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It can degrade when exposed to air for more than 24 hours.

I stand corrected. Forget about 24 hours. It is a slow process as I learned. See this post: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-42#post-224754
 
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Kazilium

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Feb 24, 2019
74
Well, fuck. Now I'm scared to use mine when I get it.
 
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