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noname223

Angelic
Aug 18, 2020
4,440
Not sure whether such a thread already exists. I am no expert on it I just explain opinion on it.

For me there is a difference between sex as a right for all adults or for people with specific disabilities. For example when they are unable to masturbate. In this case I am fully in favor of sexual assistance. This should be funded by the state in my opinion. Though I don't know whether their inability for masturbation or the inability for sexual experiences with another human being should be the main indicator. There are probably people with more knowledge on this question.

Though for the rest of the adults I am not sure. I think there are more and more men (also young men) with lack of sex with someone else. I read (but not sure if true) maybe this could affect the crime rate, their violence level and of course their life quality/ happiness. Some might become even more suicidal because of it. The reason is probably globalization, women emancipation, modernization of human life. There are more and more people who don't want to fit into old role stereotypes. I have the feeling (not fully sure) women have it easier to have sexual experiences with other human beings. However this probably does not count for every one of them. The argument I read some people started to become very promiscuous and sleep with many many people. Often outer apperance is one big factor for success in this instance. Others say money. I read this also applies to men in China. Due to birth control there are way more men than women. The performance pressure is insane and it makes dating so hard. The expectation for each other are quite high. Due to online dating people have become objects. You can swipe them away if they annoy you. You can ghost them etc.

Even though I don't have partner and no intimate relation I am more hesitant on the right to sex. I mean prostitution should be legal and less stigmatized. Of course money is a factor. But honestly I don't know the prices. I would consider meeting a prostitute rather luxury and no human right. However states and their welfare seem to increase I would not wonder if such a right existed in 100 years. Maybe AI will help with that problem. Solely on that AI thing one could write a whole thread. Some people write here their lack of sex affect their self-esteem a lot. So it seems to be plausible that a right to sex could influence their mental health in a positive way.

Personally in my case I have to say maybe the notion that sex could solve my problems is rather naive. I mean it would probably feel great. Especially with the right person. One night stands tend for some people to be shallow and they regret it afterwards. Personally I don't think I am a guy who can seperate sexual relations with feelings. Starting to fall in love with a prostitute does not seem to be that seldom. I am too neurotic for such a behavior. I need full trust in another person. But maybe I am wrong. I also found it interesting when people expressed the idea to sleep with an escort girl before committing suicide. However I could imagine I have other things on my mind when my life finally forces me to commit suicide. I have read the following sometimes. The notion that sex is the main factor for happiness is often wrong. It is short time probably a lot of fun and exciting but on the longterm probably lonely and foreign, One might could reply maybe the promiscuous way of life can be fulfilling shortterm but does not guarantee happiness in the long term. I read some people in this forum saying fucking other people is no big help when one is already fucked in the head. For me I am quite sure this is true.

What is your opinion on it?
 
jodes2

jodes2

Hello people ❤️
Aug 28, 2022
7,739
I don't think there would be any harm
 
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noname223

Angelic
Aug 18, 2020
4,440
I don't think there would be any harm
Crtics would reply it affected tax payer's money. Personally I am ambivalent on it. I just repeat some talking points.
 
GrumpyFrog

GrumpyFrog

Exhausted
Aug 23, 2020
1,913
Hey. There is a lot to unpack here. I think I'll go part-by-part

For me there is a difference between sex as a right for all adults or for people with specific disabilities. For example when they are unable to masturbate. In this case I am fully in favor of sexual assistance. This should be funded by the state in my opinion. Though I don't know whether their inability for masturbation or the inability for sexual experiences with another human being should be the main indicator. There are probably people with more knowledge on this question.
The right for state-funded sexual assistance for all adults will involve a lot of sex workers. Which probably isn't a good thing overall, although that is debatable.
I have the feeling (not fully sure) women have it easier to have sexual experiences with other human beings. However this probably does not count for every one of them.
There male-to-female rate in the most parts of the world is close to 50/50. So unless there is an overwhelming percentage of lesbians (which, I can assure you is, sadly, not reality) it would not make sense mathematically if all or most women had a much easier time finding a partner than all or most men. So that's probably not true, at least not for everyone
The argument I read some people started to become very promiscuous and sleep with many many people.
I'm not sure an argument to what it is. If it is about women being very promiscuous - that should actually make it easier for men to find a partner. If it is about some men screwing 10 women a week while others don't hook up with anyone - that still wouldn't make it easier for women to find a partner, if anything it would make the competition worse.
Due to online dating people have become objects. You can swipe them away if they annoy you. You can ghost them etc.
"Ghosting" is just a modern slang term for ignoring someone which is something that always happened.
I've recently read a curious story about a Egyptology student having an assignment of translating some hieroglyphic script. It was a sad note that said "Why you're not writing to me any longer? My heart thinks of you a thousand times a day". Later, professor told them that this note was discovered on a clay plaque that was dated to the Egyptian Old Kingdom period. That is over 4000 years old. So "ghosting" definitely isn't a new phenomena...

And if the person would be unable to avoid you if you annoy them...that definitely isn't a good starting point for a healthy relationship of any kind, even purely sexual.
Some people write here their lack of sex affect their self-esteem a lot. So it seems to be plausible that a right to sex could influence their mental health in a positive way.
I don't think a state-funded paid sex can help with self-esteem much. The self-esteem issue comes from the fact nobody chooses you as a partner. If you receive welfare in a form of a disengaged sex worker, I really don't think it can help anyone feel any better about themselves...
One might could reply maybe the promiscuous way of life can be fulfilling shortterm but does not guarantee happiness in the long term.
There is so much more to life than just sex or a lack thereof. A person can be perfectly content with no sex life whatsoever, deeply unfulfilled with their chaotic sex life that fails to create a personal connection and is therefore unsatisfactory, deeply unfulfilled with a committed relationship that leaves them unsatisfied, or to be perfectly satisfied with their active sex life but deeply unhappy about something else.
 
Ilikethemoon

Ilikethemoon

Let me go. :(
Feb 17, 2022
10
Sex in general and masturbation is nothing bad or harmful. In fact the opposite is the case, as long u don't do something u r not ok with. I think sex can be an awesome experience but if u can't enjoy it, it doesn't help at all or even has a bad influence on u . If u are able to enjoy it, the effect is short term like a drug. So it doesn't help with ur issues at all. However the social aspect of it can help. I don't think meeting a prostitute should be a human right, that's luxury and also would declare that the state has to guarantee the availability of prostitutes and that's not a good thing. I also don't believe sex is needed for a person to live a happy life. People should have the right to have sex but nothing more.
 
actual_fox

actual_fox

Arcanist
Sep 15, 2022
469
I don't know If getting sex this way would feel good because you would feel It is a pity fuck and you did not really "deserve" It. One thing is feeling orgasm and pleasure, and the other is feeling valued as a sex partner or as a human in general (since vast majority of humans want consciously or subconsciously reproduce).

But maybe I am wrong since I am a virgin and I don't know the difference. But this is true if what you have said; It is better to have ability to have casual sex. Without It one might feel deprived and could create many unhealthy habits or obsessions to compensate or cope (porn, fetishes, fantasizing, addiction to self pleasing). And after a while one might feel he is not capable of having relationship.
 
BojackHorseman

BojackHorseman

The View From Halfway Down
Feb 8, 2023
104
Hey. There is a lot to unpack here. I think I'll go part-by-part


The right for state-funded sexual assistance for all adults will involve a lot of sex workers. Which probably isn't a good thing overall, although that is debatable.

There male-to-female rate in the most parts of the world is close to 50/50. So unless there is an overwhelming percentage of lesbians (which, I can assure you is, sadly, not reality) it would not make sense mathematically if all or most women had a much easier time finding a partner than all or most men. So that's probably not true, at least not for everyone

I'm not sure an argument to what it is. If it is about women being very promiscuous - that should actually make it easier for men to find a partner. If it is about some men screwing 10 women a week while others don't hook up with anyone - that still wouldn't make it easier for women to find a partner, if anything it would make the competition worse.

"Ghosting" is just a modern slang term for ignoring someone which is something that always happened.
I've recently read a curious story about a Egyptology student having an assignment of translating some hieroglyphic script. It was a sad note that said "Why you're not writing to me any longer? My heart thinks of you a thousand times a day". Later, professor told them that this note was discovered on a clay plaque that was dated to the Egyptian Old Kingdom period. That is over 4000 years old. So "ghosting" definitely isn't a new phenomena...

And if the person would be unable to avoid you if you annoy them...that definitely isn't a good starting point for a healthy relationship of any kind, even purely sexual.

I don't think a state-funded paid sex can help with self-esteem much. The self-esteem issue comes from the fact nobody chooses you as a partner. If you receive welfare in a form of a disengaged sex worker, I really don't think it can help anyone feel any better about themselves...

There is so much more to life than just sex or a lack thereof. A person can be perfectly content with no sex life whatsoever, deeply unfulfilled with their chaotic sex life that fails to create a personal connection and is therefore unsatisfactory, deeply unfulfilled with a committed relationship that leaves them unsatisfied, or to be perfectly satisfied with their active sex life but deeply unhappy about something else.
You made so many good points in a kind and well-worded way. Thank you.
 
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
19,373
This premise hurts my brain so much that now I want no humans to have any rights of any kind at all ever again.

Let's just wait another 15 years to see if AI can solve it all for us.