Method Self-Immolation

[Devouring Entropy]

Does anyone have any knowledge regarding this method? I realise all it's negatives but CTB is our one and final act of self-expression. Easy and painless is fine, some choose drowning which is unbelievable to me. For multiple reasons flame was the one that captivated me the moment I realised it is a method to consider. Douse myself in fuel? Maybe drink alcohol too? Anything to hasten the process? If anyone could help I would be in a life's debt to them (haha).

 

[HopeNotLong]

this method is said to be extremely painful. Have you looked through the resources thread?
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/

 

[Devouring Entropy]

this method is said to be extremely painful. Have you looked through the resources thread?
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/

I'd given it a glance before, now read through it all don't see anything, posting specifically because the search automatically done when creating a post title gave nothing too. It'll be unbelievably painful yeah.

 

[HopeNotLong]

I'd given it a glance before, now read through it all don't see anything, posting specifically because the search automatically done when creating a post title gave nothing too. It'll be unbelievably painful yeah.

this book has a part about it, but I really hope you show yourself some mercy and consider other methods…

The Complete Manual of Suicide - By Wataru Tsurumi

I don't know if this has been done before BUT i felt it selfish to keep this information to myself if even a single other person can gleam satisfaction from it. First published on July 4, 1993, this PDF is a full file of an English translation of a suicide manual written in 1993 and revised in...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

Do you want to carry out a dramatic protest like Thích Quảng Đức's one? Suicide as an act of self-expression means that someone watches the act and has the chance to rescue you. In this case you will end up with severe physical damages.
Anyway, there are few advices about this method because most of us prefer more painless methods. Just my two cents, you should use gasoline (petrol) as the fuel.

 

[Devouring Entropy]

Do you want to carry out a dramatic protest like Thích Quảng Đức's one? Suicide as an act of self-expression means that someone watches the act and has the chance to rescue you. In this case you will end up with severe physical damages.
Anyway, there are few advices about this method because most of us prefer more painless methods. Just my two cents, you should use gasoline (petrol) as the fuel.

Anything public can have so many complications that I would never consider it. I'll do it in privacy, to me expression is not about how or if others view it, it's about myself. Very thankful to the friend above you for the resource, according to it you can also use kerosene (either or) and I've always known it to be a much stronger and dangerous fuel, do you have reason to support gasoline regardless or is did you not consider kerosene

 

[passedawayinapril]

hm

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

Anything public can have so many complications that I would never consider it. I'll do it in privacy, to me expression is not about how or if others view it, it's about myself. Very thankful to the friend above you for the resource, according to it you can also use kerosene (either or) and I've always known it to be a much stronger and dangerous fuel, do you have reason to support gasoline regardless or is did you not consider kerosene

I'm sorry. I misunderstood the meaning.
Kerosene has a higher flash point. It's said to be between 37 °C (99 °F) and 65 °C (149 °F). So it's hard to start to burn. That being said some of self-immolators succeeded with kerosene.

List of political self-immolations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[tend a dead garden]

Does anyone have any knowledge regarding this method? I realise all it's negatives but CTB is our one and final act of self-expression. Easy and painless is fine, some choose drowning which is unbelievable to me. For multiple reasons flame was the one that captivated me the moment I realised it is a method to consider. Douse myself in fuel? Maybe drink alcohol too? Anything to hasten the process? If anyone could help I would be in a life's debt to them (haha).

I worked in the NHS and have experience of treating people in the ICU who had suffered extensive burns, usually accidental but one person it was a method of trying to CTB. They had doused themselves in petrol, taken alcohol and codeine painkillers and from the reports had been essentially a ball of flame for quite a while.
However, the human body is very resilient , despite being on fire for a prolonged period they did not die.
They are kept on high does of morphine and ketamine while they attempt skin grafts or just heal a process which takes months. The person is basically kept totally dissociated from their body due to the massive amount of constant pain.
The person recovered after many months but was left totally disfigured, lost the sight in an eye, use of his feet.
I strongly urge you to not attempt this method. It will be extremely painful and the process for burning to death takes awhile as it's usually damage to the lungs which kills the person or shock. As the image of the silent monk burning in protest is not what occurs in 99 percent of cases. The person will roll to try to smother the flames as a natural reaction.
Also this method will draw attention and aid to you unless you do it somewhere isolated but anywhere people see alot of smoke they will usually investigate or call the fire service so your chances of being found while alive and given "aid" is quite high.
If you wish to CTB please look for other methods as if it works it is one of the most painful ways to go , if it does not you are looking at months or recovery in hospital and a very high chance of disability and lifelong pain.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

I worked in the NHS and have experience of treating people in the ICU who had suffered extensive burns, usually accidental but one person it was a method of trying to CTB. They had doused themselves in petrol, taken alcohol and codeine painkillers and from the reports had been essentially a ball of flame for quite a while.
However, the human body is very resilient , despite being on fire for a prolonged period they did not die.
They are kept on high does of morphine and ketamine while they attempt skin grafts or just heal a process which takes months. The person is basically kept totally dissociated from their body due to the massive amount of constant pain.
The person recovered after many months but was left totally disfigured, lost the sight in an eye, use of his feet.
I strongly urge you to not attempt this method. It will be extremely painful and the process for burning to death takes awhile as it's usually damage to the lungs which kills the person or shock. As the image of the silent monk burning in protest is not what occurs in 99 percent of cases. The person will roll to try to smother the flames as a natural reaction.
Also this method will draw attention and aid to you unless you do it somewhere isolated but anywhere people see alot of smoke they will usually investigate or call the fire service so your chances of being found while alive and given "aid" is quite high.
If you wish to CTB please look for other methods as if it works it is one of the most painful ways to go , if it does not you are looking at months or recovery in hospital and a very high chance of disability and lifelong pain.

Would you mind if I ask a question?
The United States Air Force serviceman Aaron Bushnell attempted self-immolation for political reasons. His fire was extinguished in minutes. But he passed away. How do you think why it was fatal?

Self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Devouring Entropy]

I worked in the NHS and have experience of treating people in the ICU who had suffered extensive burns, usually accidental but one person it was a method of trying to CTB. They had doused themselves in petrol, taken alcohol and codeine painkillers and from the reports had been essentially a ball of flame for quite a while.
However, the human body is very resilient , despite being on fire for a prolonged period they did not die.
They are kept on high does of morphine and ketamine while they attempt skin grafts or just heal a process which takes months. The person is basically kept totally dissociated from their body due to the massive amount of constant pain.
The person recovered after many months but was left totally disfigured, lost the sight in an eye, use of his feet.
I strongly urge you to not attempt this method. It will be extremely painful and the process for burning to death takes awhile as it's usually damage to the lungs which kills the person or shock. As the image of the silent monk burning in protest is not what occurs in 99 percent of cases. The person will roll to try to smother the flames as a natural reaction.
Also this method will draw attention and aid to you unless you do it somewhere isolated but anywhere people see alot of smoke they will usually investigate or call the fire service so your chances of being found while alive and given "aid" is quite high.
If you wish to CTB please look for other methods as if it works it is one of the most painful ways to go , if it does not you are looking at months or recovery in hospital and a very high chance of disability and lifelong pain.

Your example really does make me rethink things, in my case I'll be at my apartment alone and with all windows doors being aluminium it will take a lot of time for people to notice, locking doors should delay intervention even more, I'd do it in a tub to stay in the fuel instead of having it waste around, if anything I worry that there could possibly not be enough oxygen around in the bathroom for the flame to keep burning. Being at a small eastern european town will also help, I hardly expect anyone to see me for at the very least after an hour burning, at that point wouldn't the fuel itself have been burnt anyways? I take it you don't have any details on how long that person was burning and if they were putting out their own flame, otherwise you'd mention it. Resource did emphasize that less fuel can have the risk of not killing but seemed very confident in the lethality if all goes well.

 

[tend a dead garden]

Would you mind if I ask a question?
The United States Air Force serviceman Aaron Bushnell attempted self-immolation for political reasons. His fire was extinguished in minutes. But he passed away. How do you think why it was fatal?

Self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It could have been fatal due to the fire reaching the lungs as that causes massive damage to the respiratory system and once that happens the body is denied oxygen and death ensues. I have come across people who fire breathe (which i can do myself) and you have to use the right liquid for the flames, i used BBQ lighting fuel as it doesn't burn very quickly. People who try to do fire breathing with petrol can die from it as the petrol turns to flame so quickly that it reaches into your mouth and then burns the lungs causing death in some cases.
Or he could have expired due to shock as if the body receives massive amounts of damage such as being on fire for a period of minutes is actually a very long time to be engulfed in flames .
It doesn't say what accelerate he used but "he doused himself with a flammable liquid and set himself on fire" and was sent to hospital in critical condition. I would think it could have been the fire and the respiratory system damage or just the extent of damage fire does to a body damaging multiple body systems leading to death.

Your example really does make me rethink things, in my case I'll be at my apartment alone and with all windows doors being aluminium it will take a lot of time for people to notice, locking doors should delay intervention even more, I'd do it in a tub to stay in the fuel instead of having it waste around, if anything I worry that there could possibly not be enough oxygen around in the bathroom for the flame to keep burning. Being at a small eastern european town will also help, I hardly expect anyone to see me for at the very least after an hour burning, at that point wouldn't the fuel itself have been burnt anyways? I take it you don't have any details on how long that person was burning and if they were putting out their own flame, otherwise you'd mention it. Resource did emphasize that less fuel can have the risk of not killing but seemed very confident in the lethality if all goes well.

The idea of doing it in a tub is a way which has worked. However, if your in an apartment block people will notice very quickly as smoke is something which people always investigate.
The way the body burns if left if the fat etc acts like a candle and a well doused human body can burn to ashes which would defiantly happen if you were burning for an hour. However the chance of that occurring in an apartment block is very low.
Also you will probably set the building on fire as if you use petrol or gasoline enough to fill a tun then the ensuing fireball will spread to anything flammable in your bathroom and quickly spread out of the bathroom. The locked doors etc would delay help and you would probably die from this act but you will be in immense pain for however long it takes for you to die and you risk the fire spreading which could endanger other people.
Unless done as some form of protest i would not recommend this method due to the factors already outlined, plus the risk of the fire spreading and putting other in danger.

 

[deletedaccount30982]

Your example really does make me rethink things, in my case I'll be at my apartment alone and with all windows doors being aluminium it will take a lot of time for people to notice, locking doors should delay intervention even more, I'd do it in a tub to stay in the fuel instead of having it waste around, if anything I worry that there could possibly not be enough oxygen around in the bathroom for the flame to keep burning. Being at a small eastern european town will also help, I hardly expect anyone to see me for at the very least after an hour burning, at that point wouldn't the fuel itself have been burnt anyways? I take it you don't have any details on how long that person was burning and if they were putting out their own flame, otherwise you'd mention it. Resource did emphasize that less fuel can have the risk of not killing but seemed very confident in the lethality if all goes well.

As someone who has been heavily considering self immolation for almost a year, please DO NOT do this in a building. Or anywhere that is highly likely to lead to any sort of spread of fire. Especially an apartment building where it is likely that other units may be occupied. Putting other people's lives in extreme danger like that is not okay. Any building, heavily populated area, or anywhere near flammable nature such as forests would be endangering so many people.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

It could have been fatal due to the fire reaching the lungs as that causes massive damage to the respiratory system and once that happens the body is denied oxygen and death ensues. I have come across people who fire breathe (which i can do myself) and you have to use the right liquid for the flames, i used BBQ lighting fuel as it doesn't burn very quickly. People who try to do fire breathing with petrol can die from it as the petrol turns to flame so quickly that it reaches into your mouth and then burns the lungs causing death in some cases.
Or he could have expired due to shock as if the body receives massive amounts of damage such as being on fire for a period of minutes is actually a very long time to be engulfed in flames .
It doesn't say what accelerate he used but "he doused himself with a flammable liquid and set himself on fire" and was sent to hospital in critical condition. I would think it could have been the fire and the respiratory system damage or just the extent of damage fire does to a body damaging multiple body systems leading to death.

Thank you. It does not seem replicable. If there were some tricks to maximize the success rate, it might be helpful for some users...

 

[Devouring Entropy]

As someone who has been heavily considering self immolation for almost a year, please DO NOT do this in a building. Or anywhere that is highly likely to lead to any sort of spread of fire. Especially an apartment building where it is likely that other units may be occupied. Putting other people's lives in extreme danger like that is not okay. Any building, heavily populated area, or anywhere near flammable nature such as forests would be endangering so many people.

It could have been fatal due to the fire reaching the lungs as that causes massive damage to the respiratory system and once that happens the body is denied oxygen and death ensues. I have come across people who fire breathe (which i can do myself) and you have to use the right liquid for the flames, i used BBQ lighting fuel as it doesn't burn very quickly. People who try to do fire breathing with petrol can die from it as the petrol turns to flame so quickly that it reaches into your mouth and then burns the lungs causing death in some cases.
Or he could have expired due to shock as if the body receives massive amounts of damage such as being on fire for a period of minutes is actually a very long time to be engulfed in flames .
It doesn't say what accelerate he used but "he doused himself with a flammable liquid and set himself on fire" and was sent to hospital in critical condition. I would think it could have been the fire and the respiratory system damage or just the extent of damage fire does to a body damaging multiple body systems leading to death.

The idea of doing it in a tub is a way which has worked. However, if your in an apartment block people will notice very quickly as smoke is something which people always investigate.
The way the body burns if left if the fat etc acts like a candle and a well doused human body can burn to ashes which would defiantly happen if you were burning for an hour. However the chance of that occurring in an apartment block is very low.
Also you will probably set the building on fire as if you use petrol or gasoline enough to fill a tun then the ensuing fireball will spread to anything flammable in your bathroom and quickly spread out of the bathroom. The locked doors etc would delay help and you would probably die from this act but you will be in immense pain for however long it takes for you to die and you risk the fire spreading which could endanger other people.
Unless done as some form of protest i would not recommend this method due to the factors already outlined, plus the risk of the fire spreading and putting other in danger.

It could have been fatal due to the fire reaching the lungs as that causes massive damage to the respiratory system and once that happens the body is denied oxygen and death ensues. I have come across people who fire breathe (which i can do myself) and you have to use the right liquid for the flames, i used BBQ lighting fuel as it doesn't burn very quickly. People who try to do fire breathing with petrol can die from it as the petrol turns to flame so quickly that it reaches into your mouth and then burns the lungs causing death in some cases.
Or he could have expired due to shock as if the body receives massive amounts of damage such as being on fire for a period of minutes is actually a very long time to be engulfed in flames .
It doesn't say what accelerate he used but "he doused himself with a flammable liquid and set himself on fire" and was sent to hospital in critical condition. I would think it could have been the fire and the respiratory system damage or just the extent of damage fire does to a body damaging multiple body systems leading to death.

The idea of doing it in a tub is a way which has worked. However, if your in an apartment block people will notice very quickly as smoke is something which people always investigate.
The way the body burns if left if the fat etc acts like a candle and a well doused human body can burn to ashes which would defiantly happen if you were burning for an hour. However the chance of that occurring in an apartment block is very low.
Also you will probably set the building on fire as if you use petrol or gasoline enough to fill a tun then the ensuing fireball will spread to anything flammable in your bathroom and quickly spread out of the bathroom. The locked doors etc would delay help and you would probably die from this act but you will be in immense pain for however long it takes for you to die and you risk the fire spreading which could endanger other people.
Unless done as some form of protest i would not recommend this method due to the factors already outlined, plus the risk of the fire spreading and putting other in danger.

As someone who has been heavily considering self immolation for almost a year, please DO NOT do this in a building. Or anywhere that is highly likely to lead to any sort of spread of fire. Especially an apartment building where it is likely that other units may be occupied. Putting other people's lives in extreme danger like that is not okay. Any building, heavily populated area, or anywhere near flammable nature such as forests would be endangering so many people.

Buildings here are concrete, only apartment on the same floor has a corridor in-between and two aluminium doors. I believe it pretty much physically impossible for a fire to spread, over here fire deaths during the summer are caused because of panic and almost exclusively in forests. I would nevertheless make as sure as possible that the flame doesn't even get outside the bathroom. It's really interesting how problems like a fire starting are so vastly different between countries and regions. It's like how some coastal towns are just chilling while other have to deal with tsunamis very often. I'm now wondering if CO poisoning plays any role, all other damage aside.

 

[deletedaccount30982]

Buildings here are concrete, only apartment on the same floor has a corridor in-between and two aluminium doors. I believe it pretty much physically impossible for a fire to spread, over here fire deaths during the summer are caused because of panic and almost exclusively in forests. I would nevertheless make as sure as possible that the flame doesn't even get outside the bathroom. It's really interesting how problems like a fire starting are so vastly different between countries and regions. It's like how some coastal towns are just chilling while other have to deal with tsunamis very often. I'm now wondering if CO poisoning plays any role, all other damage aside.

Even if the fire were to not spread at all, which even "fire-proof" buildings still can set on fire (the titanic was supposed to be unsinkable after all, nothing is fool proof), the smoke would spread through the vents and be able to kill or harm anyone else in the building, especially anyone above you.

 

[brokenspirited]

Does anyone have any knowledge regarding this method? I realise all it's negatives but CTB is our one and final act of self-expression. Easy and painless is fine, some choose drowning which is unbelievable to me. For multiple reasons flame was the one that captivated me the moment I realised it is a method to consider. Douse myself in fuel? Maybe drink alcohol too? Anything to hasten the process? If anyone could help I would be in a life's debt to them (haha).

Non-methods that should not be attempted

mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top. This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Devouring Entropy]

Even if the fire were to not spread at all, which even "fire-proof" buildings still can set on fire (the titanic was supposed to be unsinkable after all, nothing is fool proof), the smoke would spread through the vents and be able to kill or harm anyone else in the building, especially anyone above you.

No vents or a story above, it's only got a small window connected to ventilation shaft that connects to the roof (less than 2 meters above the window), I was wondering about if I want to keep the window open or not though, open seems better for ventilation for the fire but will have calls done in less than 10-20 minutes probably, I assume without it smoke will fill the whole house? At that point after doing whatever they can (nothing with house door locked) it'll be up to firefighters and they should know their protocol right? Evacuate, open up carefully/with gas masks idk.

 

[deletedaccount30982]

No vents or a story above, it's only got a small window connected to ventilation shaft that connects to the roof (less than 2 meters above the window), I was wondering about if I want to keep the window open or not though, open seems better for ventilation for the fire but will have calls done in less than 10-20 minutes probably, I assume without it smoke will fill the whole house? At that point after doing whatever they can (nothing with house door locked) it'll be up to firefighters and they should know their protocol right? Evacuate, open up carefully/with gas masks idk.

Smoke can and will spread throughout the building. Point blank period doing this in a building is putting others lives at extreme risk. CTB is an autonomous choice. Putting others in harms way to CTB is not.

 

[Devouring Entropy]

Smoke can and will spread throughout the building. Point blank period doing this in a building is putting others lives at extreme risk. CTB is an autonomous choice. Putting others in harms way to CTB is not.

I understand why you'd feel so strongly about other lives being put at risk but this really isn't the case, smoke does not pose "extreme risk", smoke is incredibly easy to spot and avoid, smoke doesn't go through airtight frames. Me riding on my motorbike or car to go buy the fuel needed, or people doing so everyday to get to work while feeling unwell pose a much more dangerous threat I'm sure

 

[deletedaccount30982]

I understand why you'd feel so strongly about other lives being put at risk but this really isn't the case, smoke does not pose "extreme risk", smoke is incredibly easy to spot and avoid, smoke doesn't go through airtight frames. Me riding on my motorbike or car to go buy the fuel needed, or people doing so everyday to get to work while feeling unwell pose a much more dangerous threat I'm sure

The amount of smoke that is emitted when you drive somewhere, especially in today's day and age where vehicles are designed to emit as little fumes as possible, is vastly different than the smoke that comes from a fire. Smoke is so dangerous, in fact, that it is more likely to be the cause of death in a burning than the flames and burns themselves. It's the inhalation of smoke that causes you to pass out after a few minutes, not the burning of your skin, and it's often smoke inhalation that kills initial survivors. That's why people are taken to the hospital after surviving a house fire even if they have no visible burns, because the smoke inhalation is that dangerous. It's part of why burn survivors are often intubated early on. It is incredibly, incredibly toxic. And I highly doubt that your apartment has completely air tight doors throughout the entire building. CO can travel even if you cannot visibly see it. That's why CO monitors are a thing, it is a silent, deadly killer. Yes, the smoke may be visible and you would likely smell it, but that's not an absolute. And some people may not recognize the danger or wake up in time to escape before it is too late. You are vastly underplaying the dangers of this and it could very well cost someone else their life.

 

[Devouring Entropy]

The amount of smoke that is emitted when you drive somewhere, especially in today's day and age where vehicles are designed to emit as little fumes as possible, is vastly different than the smoke that comes from a fire. Smoke is so dangerous, in fact, that it is more likely to be the cause of death in a burning than the flames and burns themselves. It's the inhalation of smoke that causes you to pass out after a few minutes, not the burning of your skin, and it's often smoke inhalation that kills initial survivors. That's why people are taken to the hospital after surviving a house fire even if they have no visible burns, because the smoke inhalation is that dangerous. It's part of why burn survivors are often intubated early on. It is incredibly, incredibly toxic. And I highly doubt that your apartment has completely air tight doors throughout the entire building. CO can travel even if you cannot visibly see it. That's why CO monitors are a thing, it is a silent, deadly killer. Yes, the smoke may be visible and you would likely smell it, but that's not an absolute. And some people may not recognize the danger or wake up in time to escape before it is too late. You are vastly underplaying the dangers of this and it could very well cost someone else their life.

I wasn't talking about smoke from cars I was talking about the chances of dying in an accident. People don't die off of smoke because a single room in a completely different almost airtight apartment leaked 2 molecules of toxic gases. Burning food on a stove of your own house would be hundreds of times more dangerous. Doing Barbecue as well. When I was a kid I'd help my granpa burn tree branches being like half a meter from a raging 3 meter tall fire. Many people around do this that time of the year, never heard of anyone having effects let alone dying because of it. Smoke kills people trapped in it. Smoke MIGHT be dangerous to people that might open a room pitch black with smoke and take a full inhalation of it. Probably if only because they might temporarily lose consciousness and the fall is very dangerous. Caution is very important but basing one's decision on the .0000001% of someone being hurt while that person has a 0.00001% chance of dying just for walking outside (various reasons including fights, crime, accidents, catching disease etc.) is highly unrealistic and unnecessary. I've put more people at risk for being bad at driving and I'm sure many others do so as well, you don't see authorities only allowing pros on the streets do you.

 

[deletedaccount30982]

I wasn't talking about smoke from cars I was talking about the chances of dying in an accident. People don't die off of smoke because a single room in a completely different almost airtight apartment leaked 2 molecules of toxic gases. Burning food on a stove of your own house would be hundreds of times more dangerous. Doing Barbecue as well. When I was a kid I'd help my granpa burn tree branches being like half a meter from a raging 3 meter tall fire. Many people around do this that time of the year, never heard of anyone having effects let alone dying because of it. Smoke kills people trapped in it. Smoke MIGHT be dangerous to people that might open a room pitch black with smoke and take a full inhalation of it. Probably if only because they might temporarily lose consciousness and the fall is very dangerous. Caution is very important but basing one's decision on the .0000001% of someone being hurt while that person has a 0.00001% chance of dying just for walking outside (various reasons including fights, crime, accidents, catching disease etc.) is highly unrealistic and unnecessary. I've put more people at risk for being bad at driving and I'm sure many others do so as well, you don't see authorities only allowing pros on the streets do you.

The naivety of this post is actually astounding. It is not a 0.0000001% chance. The difference with an outdoor bonfire is that it is outdoors, where the CO does not build up. Any inclosed area where carbon monoxide can build up (and no, your apartment doors are not airtight enough to prevent lethal amounts of gas from escaping, no housing complex is going to have true airtight seals in their doors, nor would an open window be enough to properly air out the quantity of smoke emitted from an entire burning body) is extremely dangerous. Believe all you want that this is an oh so safe thing to do, but you are actively endangering anyone else in your apartment complex by setting yourself on fire within the building. I'm happy to hear that you have not worked in healthcare or been a first responder or you would be more than aware of the danger you would be placing on that building.

 

[Wolf Girl]

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I understand why you'd feel so strongly about other lives being put at risk but this really isn't the case, smoke does not pose "extreme risk", smoke is incredibly easy to spot and avoid, smoke doesn't go through airtight frames. Me riding on my motorbike or car to go buy the fuel needed, or people doing so everyday to get to work while feeling unwell pose a much more dangerous threat I'm sure

The smoke emitted during a residential fire is extremely toxic because of all the synthetic materials that are used in furniture and such (this is also what causes flashover where everything, including people, bursts into flames). One breath of it will literally cause someone to immediately pass out.

Watch how quickly the fire spreads and the room fills with toxic smoke:

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Does anyone have any knowledge regarding this method? I realise all it's negatives but CTB is our one and final act of self-expression. Easy and painless is fine, some choose drowning which is unbelievable to me. For multiple reasons flame was the one that captivated me the moment I realised it is a method to consider. Douse myself in fuel? Maybe drink alcohol too? Anything to hasten the process? If anyone could help I would be in a life's debt to them (haha).

Suicide is an act of self-expression. I like this attidude. For some it is the only one and for sure it is the last one, a final statement. Maybe this is one reason why some people record their suicide. If you think an extreme painful death fits to you, you should do it.

On gore-sites you will find some videos of people who were burnt alive be cartel members. They are moving and and crying of pain for a shocking long time. I guess you have to take care that you cannot stop the process.

 

[Devouring Entropy]

The naivety of this post is actually astounding. It is not a 0.0000001% chance. The difference with an outdoor bonfire is that it is outdoors, where the CO does not build up. Any inclosed area where carbon monoxide can build up (and no, your apartment doors are not airtight enough to prevent lethal amounts of gas from escaping, no housing complex is going to have true airtight seals in their doors, nor would an open window be enough to properly air out the quantity of smoke emitted from an entire burning body) is extremely dangerous. Believe all you want that this is an oh so safe thing to do, but you are actively endangering anyone else in your apartment complex by setting yourself on fire within the building. I'm happy to hear that you have not worked in healthcare or been a first responder or you would be more than aware of the danger you would be placing on that building.

If you're in healthcare and you've seen similar cases to my scenario with people dying then I concede you're completely right. If not you're definitely over-exaggerating, or "death by a fire someplace else in a building which people are aware of and could very easily and quickly avoid" isn't really marketable and so never reached me. Also keep in mind I know the building like the palm of my hand while you're only going off of whatever image you can build in your mind with the info I've given. I don't think I'm naive when I can't find any death online due to food on a stove burning (all the harmful gas stays and fills the house) and therfore assuming that whatever gasses leak through two different doors with cracks of 0.5mm at most won't be enough to hurt a human being.

 

[jag1]

Poured gasoline on myself but didn't go through with it and ended up baker acted. Seems like a really painful way to go if you are able to ctb this way. Sometimes you just survive disfigured

 

[opheliaoveragain]

@willitpass said it all. Please dont do this in a building or anywhere that could potentially harm others if this is your choice. Smoke absolutely can harm and kill and will absolutely spread in the building, no matter what kind. Nothing is foolproof.

 

[theboy]

Not painful ?
Noo
The strange thing is that those who choose this one do not feel pain
But it is like a "sacred ritual" for them (the known cases)

 

[windowinstaller]

ur gonna look like a weirdo if you sirvive. look up burn victim online