SaSu may be blocked in Ireland

[Sakura.]

"Coimisiún na Meán [Ireland's internet regulator] said it is "actively engaging with the service in question" [SaSu] and is reviewing its compliance with the EU Digital Services Act.

Under the Act, online platforms are generally regulated by the Digital Services Coordinator in the EU country where they are headquartered or have appointed a legal representative.

However, where a platform has neither, any of the EU's 27 national coordinators, or the European Commission, can exercise powers to regulate it.

The spokesperson said that, following engagement with other European regulators and the European Commission, Coimisiún na Meán's supervision team is now in contact with the service.

"Under the supervisory model of regulation, Coimisiún na Meán first engages with services on issues of concern," the spokesperson said.

Where those concerns are not addressed and there is evidence of a possible breach of the Digital Services Act, the matter may be referred to the regulator's investigation and enforcement teams for a formal investigation, the regulator said.

Coimisiún na Meán also confirmed it can apply to the High Court for an access-blocking order, although the spokesperson stressed that this power is available "only as a last resort"."

The suicide forum facilitating the deaths of vulnerable people in Ireland

An online platform, restricted in the UK, is operating freely in Ireland and can be linked to the deaths of at least two Irish people, The Journal Investigates can reveal.

www.thejournal.ie

 

[unluckysadness]

Thanks for sharing. Actually, I'd like to know how many people were SAVED by this forum and how many died because of this platform. Every suicide is tragic, of course, but medias should read ALL the posts (including the RECOVERY section). IMHO, this website saves more than it kills. But to be 100% honest, I must say that I'm not comfortable at all when I see how many teens are here. But do they need this forum to kill themselves ? I mean, everyone can go under a train or use a rope.

In fact, this article promotes the forum by talking about it. When they say "one of the darkest corners of the internet", I agree. But the true question is : WHY are so many young (or not) people suicidal ? This is the question. Is this world fair ? Is this world cruel ? Being suicidal is not "cool", it'a tragic. Nobody takes his/her life for fun. I'm on this forum since one year, and I read a lot of posts. But I saw ZERO post "encouraging" people to kill themselves (as the article says).

So I'd like to say to this journal : You are doing your job, and it's okay, but this world is not Disneyland. Millions of people are suffering. Mental and physical illnesses cannot always be cured. If it can be cured, most people here will encourage to recover. Personally, I'm disabled and I can't be cured. I'm in my mid 40s, so I want to have control at least for my death.

So yes, this forum is dark because of evident reasons, but what about TikTok ? I've heard that a lot of teens commit suicide because of it.

And one more thing : killing yourself is incredibly difficult, even if you have all the setup to do it. Normies may think that suicide is easy, but SI is so powerful (even if you have 1000 reasons to die - like me for example).

 

[Fadenself00_]

I hate how this is a perfect stage for narcissistic family to completely rewrite how things have gone down...

 

[winter.]

Lot's of people commit suicide due to bullying, social media and other reasons. Its sad everytime somebody does end up harming themselves of course. However from my perspective, SaSu is one of the only places where you can discuss true feelings and suicide without being heavily judged or being thrown into a psych ward backed by a friendly and caring community, they don't mention the recovery part because they want to make it sound as bad as possible whilst forgetting toddlers are addicted to ipads and tiktok.

 

[Aflame5926]

wait since ireland can exercise its right and its part of the EU doesnt it mean it can block it for the whole EU?

 

[Dandelion's]

Well guess the folk in Ireland will have to rely on VPNs unless they ban that too.

wait since ireland can exercise its right and its part of the EU doesnt it mean it can block it for the whole EU?

I hope not!

 

[pedro3211]

Irish guy here, if this goes ahead I can just use a VPN right?

 

[tonicer]

What a fascist government you guys have. You have my utmost sympathy. I hope you get your freedom back some day in the future. I hope a similar freedom removal doesn't happen here in Germany. Our government is also getting more and more fascistic. I still have hope for a change into a better direction but it doesn't look very good at the moment. I never thought that the movie 1984 would become a reality in my lifetime.

 

[winter.]

Irish guy here, if this goes ahead I can just use a VPN right?

Yes you can! I'm from England where it is blocked and VPNs work fine :)

 

[never mind me]

Good to know that at least a block can be circumnavigated by a VPN. Under the current circumstances being on SaSu is one of 2 things (the other being a really kind friend who is not only allowing me to stay at his place, but also trying his best to cheer me up and offer me practical help) helping me to not completely give up yet.

 

[FF777]

"we don't think you should have access to your support community any more to help the suffering and depression you are going through because some times they actually help you so much that you can escape from this terminally-ill life and not be forced to be kept alive against your will on this prison planet for as long as possible until you are 99 years old and we decide what the morals are for your life now."

my life my choice.. i don't remember ever signing an arbitration contract delegating autonomy of my life to the irish government or any other entities.. they are larping as if they are taking the moral high ground when in actuality it is the moral low ground and can be considered in some cases to be a form of cruel punishment for people that desperately need support for the predicaments they find them selves in.. hey irish government, are you going to get me some free therapists and support that actually ends up successfully helping me when i'm going through deep depression??... or are you going to say "meh, not our problem", even though you are the cause of it??..

i'm in USA and not ireland but it pisses me off thinking about it..

by the way, besides a VPN which you usually have to pay for, people might try the TOR network to see if they can access SaSu that way since it is free.. just an option to keep in mind that you can try to see if it works.. oh yeah and there are also just proxies you could try too; you can find lots of free ones of those too..

 

[Aflame5926]

In fact, this article promotes the forum by talking about it. When they say "one of the darkest corners of the internet", I agree. But the true question is : WHY are so many young (or not) people suicidal ? This is the question. Is this world fair ? Is this world cruel ? Being suicidal is not "cool", it'a tragic. Nobody takes his/her life for fun. I'm on this forum since one year, and I read a lot of posts. But I saw ZERO post "encouraging" people to kill themselves (as the article says).

I think they are twisting things. for example good bye threads. we sent people off without judgement. we do not stop them.
i think the fact that we dont stop is for the outside world seen as evil. sending people off but also not stopping them is seen as encouraging i think.

i think we need a dictionary here to see what the definition of encouraging exactly is because i dont see it.

also they preaching about their wonderfull resources to seek help but shall we talk about the waiting queue in some countries or the amount of money it cost?
or that a decent amount of people already went down in the shit hole and still came out broken? (no offence its mircle work for some and for other its also hell)
mental health care is so freaking splintered its not even funny. for x you to A to you need to B its insane amount of time and energy investment.

oh and lets not talk about the side effect of the so called "medicines"

if you want to remove this forum dont censor it so it will be hidden even further. make assisted suicide more accessible with a fair assesment of state.
know when to give up instead of endless treatments. open euthanasia to everybody. i. REGULATE IT. IT AINT ROCKET SCIENCE

 

[Surek]

if you want to remove this forum dont censor it so it will be hidden even further. make assisted suicide more accessible with a fair assesment of state.
know when to give up instead of endless treatments. open euthanasia to everybody. i. REGULATE IT. IT AINT ROCKET SCIENCE

Nah, it's all too complicated. Let's just ban the site, give ourselves a medal, and move on

 

[inpainnosleep]

Thanks for sharing. Actually, I'd like to know how many people were SAVED by this forum and how many died because of this platform. Every suicide is tragic, of course, but medias should read ALL the posts (including the RECOVERY section). IMHO, this website saves more than it kills. But to be 100% honest, I must say that I'm not comfortable at all when I see how many teens are here. But do they need this forum to kill themselves ? I mean, everyone can go under a train or use a rope.

In fact, this article promotes the forum by talking about it. When they say "one of the darkest corners of the internet", I agree. But the true question is : WHY are so many young (or not) people suicidal ? This is the question. Is this world fair ? Is this world cruel ? Being suicidal is not "cool", it'a tragic. Nobody takes his/her life for fun. I'm on this forum since one year, and I read a lot of posts. But I saw ZERO post "encouraging" people to kill themselves (as the article says).

So I'd like to say to this journal : You are doing your job, and it's okay, but this world is not Disneyland. Millions of people are suffering. Mental and physical illnesses cannot always be cured. If it can be cured, most people here will encourage to recover. Personally, I'm disabled and I can't be cured. I'm in my mid 40s, so I want to have control at least for my death.

So yes, this forum is dark because of evident reasons, but what about TikTok ? I've heard that a lot of teens commit suicide because of it.

And one more thing : killing yourself is incredibly difficult, even if you have all the setup to do it. Normies may think that suicide is easy, but SI is so powerful (even if you have 1000 reasons to die - like me for example).

I agree with everything you said. I'm in my early fourties with physical and mental issues that cannot be cured. Have been suffering since I was five. I feel like this is the only place that exists where you can talk about suicide openly and your desire and reasons for suicide will never be judged. Heck, you can talk about some pretty dark stuff when it comes to your own past (even bad stuff that you did) and people are very understanding.

This is a stark contrast to trying to even lightly bring up the topic with my therapist who almost called the police on me (I was able to talk her out of it) and my friend who did call the police on me on my birthday because I was trying to express how I feel the night before, not because I had a plan or anything.

With that being said I'm also alarmed by the amount of teenagers on this site. The main choice for suicide on this forum seems to be SN, which is very different from a regular overdose which you are likely to survive. Most people would never, ever hear about SN if it wasn't for this forum. I am both greatful for this, but also apprehensive because I feel a lot of younger people on here have not given life a chance yet. Two 18 year olds who posted regularly for a period of time here committed suicide about a week ago. I talked to one of them leading right up to the moment of their CBT. It made me really sad for a variety of reasons. If it wasn't for the knowledge of SN I don't think they would have gone through with it, which is basically what they told me. I know this sounds very pro life, which is hated on this forum.

So I think this place is a double edged sword. I do think it absolutely should exist and people should have autonomy over their bodies. It's horrible that for the most part we have to resort to very painful methods to end our lives if that is what we want. There needs to be a better and more humane option, like the way there is one with animals. It's horrible that people have to deal with the aftermath of a botched suicide attempt. A botched attempt carries so much risk and I am very greateful for the information on this site. On the other hand, it also saddens me how many teenagers are on here who perhaps have not given recovery a chance yet.

 

[unluckysadness]

I agree with everything you said. I'm in my early fourties with physical and mental issues that cannot be cured. Have been suffering since I was five. I feel like this is the only place that exists where you can talk about suicide openly and your desire and reasons for suicide will never be judged. Heck, you can talk about some pretty dark stuff when it comes to your own past (even bad stuff that you did) and people are very understanding.

This is a stark contrast to trying to even lightly bring up the topic with my therapist who almost called the police on me (I was able to talk her out of it) and my friend who did call the police on me on my birthday because I was trying to express how I feel the night before, not because I had a plan or anything.

With that being said I'm also alarmed by the amount of teenagers on this site. The main choice for suicide on this forum seems to be SN, which is very different from a regular overdose which you are likely to survive. Most people would never, ever hear about SN if it wasn't for this forum. I am both greatful for this, but also apprehensive because I feel a lot of younger people on here have not given life a chance yet. Two 18 year olds who posted regularly for a period of time here committed suicide about a week ago. I talked to one of them leading right up to the moment of their CBT. It made me really sad for a variety of reasons. If it wasn't for the knowledge of SN I don't think they would have gone through with it, which is basically what they told me. I know this sounds very pro life, which is hated on this forum.

So I think this place is a double edged sword. I do think it absolutely should exist and people should have autonomy over their bodies. It's horrible that for the most part we have to resort to very painful methods to end our lives if that is what we want. There needs to be a better and more humane option, like the way there is one with animals. It's horrible that people have to deal with the aftermath of a botched suicide attempt. A botched attempt carries so much risk and I am very greateful for the information on this site. On the other hand, it also saddens me how many teenagers are on here who perhaps have not given recovery a chance yet.

I'm sorry for your situation and I agree with everything you said too. If you're under 30, you should give life another chance. I gave life too many chances and now it's just torture with my issues. I don't blame young people who ctb because everyone has his reasons, but things can sometimes change positively (especially if you're young and healthy).

 

[inpainnosleep]

I'm sorry for your situation and I agree with everything you said too. If you're under 30, you should give life another chance. I gave life too many chances and now it's just torture with my issues. I don't blame young people who ctb because everyone has his reasons, but things can sometimes change positively (especially if you're young and healthy).

"I gave life too many chances and now it's just torture." You have no idea how much I relate to this sentiment. Feeling like you have fought so hard and for so long just to be stuck in a horrible place is just the universe being evil. And of course it can always get so much worse as has been the case. I too am sorry for everything you are going through.