Method Reliability, peacefulness and convenience

[Jessica-]

If you were to place reliability, peacefulness and convenience in terms of importance for your method, how would you rank the 3? what other factors would you take into account and what is your method of choice?

 

[Walilamdzi]

My method of choice would be exit bag with nitrogen, based on everything that I've read. This is due to the price/legal restrictions on sodium pentobarbital (which imo make it quite inconvenient, otherwise that would be top). Can't decide if SN is an option because if it works then it's convenient in some respects. I think peacefulness is the most important factor for me, if it isn't peaceful then I won't want to do it so it has to be okay first and foremost. Not much use if it isn't reliable though. If it isn't convenient enough then it just won't happen I guess.

 

[Jessica-]

My method of choice would be exit bag with nitrogen, based on everything that I've read. This is due to the price/legal restrictions on sodium pentobarbital (which imo make it quite inconvenient, otherwise that would be top). Can't decide if SN is an option because if it works then it's convenient in some respects. I think peacefulness is the most important factor for me, if it isn't peaceful then I won't want to do it so it has to be okay first and foremost. Not much use if it isn't reliable though. If it isn't convenient enough then it just won't happen I guess.

Thanks, I think the peaceful bag is a good method, too. But I am too brain dead to gather and assemble the supplies. Good luck!

 

[Mogley26]

N is the epic option but hanging is all that's available to me.

 

[Walilamdzi]

@Jessica- Yeah it is a little complicated, I'm sorry to hear that you wouldn't be able to set it up. I haven't started trying to assemble supplies yet because I have doubts about the setup too, but hopefully I'll figure it out. Thanks!

 

[Jessica-]

N is the epic option but hanging is all that's available to me.

Full or partial? Hanging can be lethal if done right.

 

[Mogley26]

Full or partial? Hanging can be lethal if done right.

Full. I keep standing up with partial. I have no other option. Prison or this. I don't want to but I can't do many years in prison for something I didn't do. My parents though. They will find me. They will suffer and want to sell their home they love but suicide will make it hard to sell.

 

[Jessica-]

Full. I keep standing up with partial. I have no other option. Prison or this. I don't want to but I can't do many years in prison for something I didn't do. My parents though. They will find me. They will suffer and want to sell their home they love but suicide will make it hard to sell.

Can't you do it outside the family home?

 

[Mogley26]

Can't you do it outside the family home?

No. I'm on suicide watch. No way to do anything else. In prison I will be forced to live. The doctors sustain life. It's soon or maybe never.

 

[Jessica-]

No. I'm on suicide watch. No way to do anything else. In prison I will be forced to live. The doctors sustain life. It's soon or maybe never.

Shit, that sounds rough. Why are you going to prison if you don't mind sharing?

 

[Mogley26]

Shit, that sounds rough. Why are you going to prison if you don't mind sharing?

I was framed for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. I should take the hit not make my parents take it. I wonder if I can find another way outside. Trains are pretty far away. Their home will be worth 50% less and they have worked so hard on it.

 

[Jessica-]

I was framed for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. I should take the hit not make my parents take it. I wonder if I can find another way outside. Trains are pretty far away. Their home will be worth 50% less and they have worked so hard on it.

Have you been convicted? Are there witnesses? If you were framed, the prosecution would have difficulties establishing their case.

 

[EddieAllenPoe]

I don't think I could prioritize one of these things as more important than another. I'm just glad someone took the time to introduce these concepts as being possible with suicide. Seriously. Some people don't care and are seriously pondering electric saws and shit. Clearly, stuff like reliability of the method and the degree of peacefulness still matter...

 

[Jessica-]

I don't think I could prioritize one of these things as more important than another. I'm just glad someone took the time to introduce these concepts as being possible with suicide. Seriously. Some people don't care and are seriously pondering electric saws and shit. Clearly, stuff like reliability of the method and the degree of peacefulness still matter...

You are absolutely right, it is a balance of those factors and it depends on the individual's circumstances. I would like a near foolproof method like jumping from 500ft plus with my head landing on concrete but I could never do it.

 

[spanishguy22]

Reliability is the most crucial for me. I don't want risks.
I can take feeling like shit for an hour as long as I know this is it.
That's why I'm considering hero dosing azide+N+ something else to make sure.

Bad thing is the above is hard to get. It would take me a year.

 

[Jessica-]

Reliability is the most crucial for me. I don't want risks.
I can take feeling like shit for an hour as long as I know this is it.
That's why I'm considering hero dosing azide+N+ something else to make sure.

Bad thing is the above is hard to get. It would take me a year.

If reliability is the most crucial then there are many near foolproof mechanical methods, have you considered them? Why would you take a year to get azide and N?

 

[TAW122]

Firearm method via the shotgun with 00 buckshot loads.

Reliability would be 10/10 especially when aimed through the mouth and as close as possible to the brainstem (or even in a near miss, extensive damage would still very, very likely result in death via bloodloss, trauma, and injuries).

Peacefulness would rank pretty low, 1/10 as it is very, very gruesome and messy for the people who witness it or find the body (blood, brain and bio matter everywhere where I ctb). However, if you are referring to whether it is painless, then I'd say 9/10 assuming that one aims correctly and actually dies instantly.

Convenience, I'd give it around 8/10 because there are places where one would not be able to use a firearm (or are more likely to be stopped before successfully following through), however, in most places as long as it is quiet and secluded, no one around, then one can safely and reliably CTB via a firearm, especially when they overcome their survival instinct and don't hesitate too much.

 

[spanishguy22]

If reliability is the most crucial then there are many near foolproof mechanical methods, have you considered them? Why would you take a year to get azide and N?

Ah, I'm not convinced of one single method being enough to be foolproof though. To clarify I also care about peacefulness, just not as much.
It'd take time to gather money basically

@thrw_a_way1221221

There's still a tiny risk of failing due to recoil or bad aim. Yes it's tiny, but it's one thing to fail a OD. You really don't want to fail shotgun.

 

[JustOverIt]

Ah, I'm not convinced of one single method being enough to be foolproof though. To clarify I also care about peacefulness, just not as much.
It'd take time to gather money basically

@thrw_a_way1221221

There's still a tiny risk of failing due to recoil or bad aim. Yes it's tiny, but it's one thing to fail a OD. You really don't want to fail shotgun.

More than a tiny risk unfortunately. However you'd mitigate most of this with secure positioning of the shotgun from a seated position.

 

[Jessica-]

Firearm method via the shotgun with 00 buckshot loads.

Reliability would be 10/10 especially when aimed through the mouth and as close as possible to the brainstem (or even in a near miss, extensive damage would still very, very likely result in death via bloodloss, trauma, and injuries).

Peacefulness would rank pretty low, 1/10 as it is very, very gruesome and messy for the people who witness it or find the body (blood, brain and bio matter everywhere where I ctb). However, if you are referring to whether it is painless, then I'd say 9/10 assuming that one aims correctly and actually dies instantly.

Convenience, I'd give it around 8/10 because there are places where one would not be able to use a firearm (or are more likely to be stopped before successfully following through), however, in most places as long as it is quiet and secluded, no one around, then one can safely and reliably CTB via a firearm, especially when they overcome their survival instinct and don't hesitate too much.

I wish I could get a gun, it's pretty much foolproof, instant and painless. Yeah, the resulting corpse would be gruesome but you can always do it somewhere really remote where it wouldn't be found before it decomposes.

 

[EddieAllenPoe]

Here's where I disagree with the method of suicide. From a selfish perspective, a shotgun suicide seems logical. It's probably the quickest, most effective, and most peaceful method. It seems that it would be an obvious first choice. But I don't think it's right to burden another person with seeing the gruesome aftermath. It's similar in some ways to jumping in front of a train. You're forcing other people to witness something violent and disturbing. It does matter because I wouldn't want someone else doing it to me.

 

[JustOverIt]

Here's where I disagree with the method of suicide. From a selfish perspective, a shotgun suicide seems logical. It's probably the quickest, most effective, and most peaceful method. It seems that it would be an obvious first choice. But I don't think it's right to burden another person with seeing the gruesome aftermath. It's similar in some ways to jumping in front of a train. You're forcing other people to witness something violent and disturbing. It does matter because I wouldn't want someone else doing it to me.

I agree entirely with what your saying however I think that society has forced some of us to commit to violent and grotesque means. There are people in places that have such strict laws on all other methods that they are left with no choice. But again, no one should unwillingly be forced to see the aftermath of a gory suicide.

 

[Mogley26]

This woman thought it out and made the in charge lady believe her and send me away before she even asked me what happened. She said she's waiting until she finds an apartment to go down and file. She made proof noone was there but she's having a girl lie for her. She plotted it out and is making me wait knowing she has up to ten years to report it.

Have you been convicted? Are there witnesses? If you were framed, the prosecution would have difficulties establishing their case.

 

[Jessica-]

This woman thought it out and made the in charge lady believe her and send me away before she even asked me what happened. She said she's waiting until she finds an apartment to go down and file. She made proof noone was there but she's having a girl lie for her. She plotted it out and is making me wait knowing she has up to ten years to report it.

So she hasn't even filed a police report. How can she prove the damage done to her from the alleged assault? Did she go to the hospital ? Whatever the lady in charge says is heresy evidence and thus inadmissible .

 

[Mogley26]

I agree entirely with what your saying however I think that society has forced some of us to commit to violent and grotesque means. There are people in places that have such strict laws on all other methods that they are left with no choice. But again, no one should unwillingly be forced to see the aftermath of a gory suicide.

But what do we do? If there is no way to do it without affecting some people, what do we do when that's our answer. I wish I could buy n and be found somewhere by police but who's going to buy and send me n? Hopefully someone.

 

[JustOverIt]

But what do we do? If there is no way to do it without affecting some people, what do we do when that's our answer. I wish I could buy n and be found somewhere by police but who's going to buy and send me n? Hopefully someone.

I am deeply sympathetic to your circumstances. If you are unwilling to commit violent means (I know I definitely would not be willing) perhaps trying to obtain SN is your best bet.

 

[Mogley26]

Thank you friend.

I am deeply sympathetic to your circumstances. If you are unwilling to commit violent means (I know I definitely would not be willing) perhaps trying to obtain SN is your best bet.