Questions re: N

[lanahelp]

I received one of the last shipments of N from D a few years ago. I have some questions:

--How long is it "good for" if stored somewhere at like room temp since receipt?

--I have only one bottle (other was found and discarded by my ex). Will that be enough to work?

--How long will it take after consumption?

--I have some antimetics. Do I need to take anything else with it?

--Any advice/tips re: N?

I have been staving off any attempts for years... I have Lyme Disease and it manifested in nearly all psych symptoms. I have no idea how much is Lyme versus mental illness/PTSD/shock etc. I am stuck in a constant state of depersonalization and derealization. I don't want to CTB; yet, I cannot live this way any longer. My bday is soon; perhaps peace is the greatest gift I can give myself. I'm actually terrified to do it.

 

[vanillamilkshakes]

bumping!

 

[Praestat_Mori]

--How long is it "good for" if stored somewhere at like room temp since receipt?

You can send a test sample to a lab. (Afaik there's a lab in Spain that can test N, use the search). There's a thread about the stability of SN and N: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stability-of-sn-and-n.151639/

--I have only one bottle (other was found and discarded by my ex). Will that be enough to work?

--How long will it take after consumption?

--I have some antimetics. Do I need to take anything else with it?

--Any advice/tips re: N?

I would follow the protocol described in the PPeH. You can find a link to the 2022 version in the Suicide Resource Compilation.

Afaik 10g is suggested. Idk about N from D but most people who acquired it in SA bought 2 bottles. AEs are also suggested.

 

[lanahelp]

You can send a test sample to a lab. (Afaik there's a lab in Spain that can test N, use the search). There's a thread about the stability of SN and N: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stability-of-sn-and-n.151639/


I would follow the protocol described in the PPeH. You can find a link to the 2022 version in the Suicide Resource Compilation.

Afaik 10g is suggested. Idk about N from D but most people who acquired it in SA bought 2 bottles. AEs are also suggested.

Thank you so much. Excuse my ignorance, but what is AE?

You can send a test sample to a lab. (Afaik there's a lab in Spain that can test N, use the search). There's a thread about the stability of SN and N: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stability-of-sn-and-n.151639/


I would follow the protocol described in the PPeH. You can find a link to the 2022 version in the Suicide Resource Compilation.

Afaik 10g is suggested. Idk about N from D but most people who acquired it in SA bought 2 bottles. AEs are also suggested.

I know... I had 2 bottles. One was found and discarded; the other was overlooked. I think 1 bottle is like 6mg? I believe N was from SA.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Thank you so much. Excuse my ignorance, but what is AE?

AE = Antiemetic (e.g. meto)

I know... I had 2 bottles. One was found and discarded; the other was overlooked. I think 1 bottle is like 6mg? I believe N was from SA.

You can calculate it, Check what is printed on the sticker mg/ml or sth like that. Then you can calculate it easily. I think it's 6g not 6mg.

 

[athiestjoe]

Thank you so much. Excuse my ignorance, but what is AE?

Antiemetic (prevents or reduces nausea and vomiting). Meto is listed in the protocol but Domperidone is also a D2 dopamine antagonist antiemetic. Either should be fine. If you have Meto, go with Meto. If are you in the US, you can't (legally) get domperidone as it is not FDA approved but if you live elsewhere like UK or other Euro countries you should be able to get either Meto or Motilium (brand name of domperidone)!!

Here is the protocol from PPEH which I suggest you read as well (not just this except. You can find a full copy here: PPH Essentials 2022)



I wish you the best in whatever you decide and hope you get peace & serenity.

 

[lanahelp]

Antiemetic (prevents or reduces nausea and vomiting). Meto is listed in the protocol but Domperidone is also a D2 dopamine antagonist antiemetic. Either should be fine. If you have Meto, go with Meto. If are you in the US, you can't (legally) get domperidone as it is not FDA approved but if you live elsewhere like UK or other Euro countries you should be able to get either Meto or Motilium (brand name of domperidone)!!

Here is the protocol from PPEH which I suggest you read as well (not just this except. You can find a full copy here: PPH Essentials 2022)

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I wish you the best in whatever you decide and hope you get peace & serenity.

Thank you so much for the reply, information, and wishes. I wish the same for you... I wish suffering was obliterated. I LOVED life and am deeply sad, angry, and sad.

 

[lanahelp]

Polling again--do you think that 1 6 ml? bottle of N (from an prior source "D") will do the trick alone? My 2nd bottle was found and discarded. What else could I take with it to ensure that I CTB?

 

[antonhylion]

Polling again--do you think that 1 6 ml? bottle of N (from an prior source "D") will do the trick alone? My 2nd bottle was found and discarded. What else could I take with it to ensure that I CTB?

Yes 6g are enough. But you can use a bag too. Fortunatly i bought high concentraded N (400mg/ml)

 

[endofline2010]

Yes 6g are enough. But you can use a bag too. Fortunatly i bought high concentraded N (400mg/ml)

Hold on, I don't know any type of N that is 1000mg/ml, so @lanahelp probably doesn't have 6g. The highest concentration I've seen is 400mg/ml, so that would only be 2.4g.

Also, @lanahelp are you sure you only have a 6ml vial? I've never seen any vials less than 10ml, and most medicines are sold in 30ml vials at smallest. N is a veterinary medicine, and vets usually get a 100ml vial which they use to euthanize multiple animals.

 

[antonhylion]

Hold on, I don't know any type of N that is 1000mg/ml, so @lanahelp probably doesn't have 6g. The highest concentration I've seen is 400mg/ml, so that would only be 2.4g.

Also, @lanahelp are you sure you only have a 6ml vial? I've never seen any vials less than 10ml, and most medicines are sold in 30ml vials at smallest. N is a veterinary medicine, and vets usually get a 100ml vial which they use to euthanize multiple animals.

You're problably right. Theres 250ml vials too.

 

[endofline2010]

You're problably right. Theres 250ml vials too.

I would just down the whole thing in one gulp haha.

 

[antonhylion]

I would just down the whole thing in one gulp haha.

I tried and I can tell you, never tasted something so disgusting in life lol so use antiemetics likewise SN

 

[endofline2010]

I tried and I can tell you, never tasted something so disgusting in life lol

I believe it's bad, but I bet TUDCA is worse. I mixed half a teaspoon in some Greek yogurt and couldn't get one spoon down. DNP is a close second.

 

[antonhylion]

I believe it's bad, but I bet TUDCA is worse. I mixed half a teaspoon in some Greek yogurt and couldn't get one spoon down. DNP is a close second.

yes, TUDCA is disgusting too.

 

[lanahelp]

So I bought 2 bottles of N from D a few years ago--before he stopped supplying it... One bottle was found and discarded. I was told they were each 6 (something?) and to use 2 for guaranteed results. Ones I had/have were packaged as cosmetics products in medium sized glasse bottles and sealed with like and IV/needle punch through under a silver cap... How bad does it taste? I'm fucking terrified to drink it, take that last breath, and be done. But I cannot take anymore. I'm working on plans. I have chickened out before. I LOVED life before Lyme Disease. Lived it fully and well... I didn't want to CTB, but there's only so much suffering that I choose to continue. I guess I wonder how much suffering must I endure in order to prevent the suffering of my loved ones in the event I do CTB....

Yes 6g are enough. But you can use a bag too. Fortunatly i bought high concentraded N (400mg/ml)

Mine is in liquid form--was disguised as a comstics product. I was told 2 bottles were a guarantee but only have the one now.

 

[maniac116]

N is fairly stable. You should be ok.
Room temp isn't the best but it's ok if it's in a dark place

 

[Tesha]

N from D contains 6.5G per 100ml bottle. Mine actually tested at 6.7G.

As long as it's not cloudy, then it should be perfectly ok to use - stability when stored in dark, dry conditions is good.

It tastes unpleasant but not completely unbearable, but the bitter taste can easily be masked by squeezing something like toothpaste in your mouth afterwards (well, I found that worked for me).

Now the dose… technically anything above 2G can be lethal and I'm confident you would not survive 6.5G. However it may take longer for you to die (you'll still pass out quick enough, so will just be in an extended coma stage). If I only had one bottle, I'd still be confident of the outcome.

 

[lanahelp]

N from D contains 6.5G per 100ml bottle. Mine actually tested at 6.7G.

As long as it's not cloudy, then it should be perfectly ok to use - stability when stored in dark, dry conditions is good.

It tastes unpleasant but not completely unbearable, but the bitter taste can easily be masked by squeezing something like toothpaste in your mouth afterwards (well, I found that worked for me).

Now the dose… technically anything above 2G can be lethal and I'm confident you would not survive 6.5G. However it may take longer for you to die (you'll still pass out quick enough, so will just be in an extended coma stage). If I only had one bottle, I'd still be confident of the outcome.

Tesha: Thank you for this perfect post in reply to my questions. Phew... It can work... You just sampled it? Trust you aren't in the same precarious place as I, or at peace, whatever the situation.

 

[Dyingsoon]

May I ask how did you test it and where did you order the test kits from? I also have N from D, have been storing it for 2.5 years now in my room, with no direct light , but temperature excursions sure occurred and I am yet to test it. There's of course no labeling on the package so I can't tell if we got the same thing or not. I really hope it is though.

N from D contains 6.5G per 100ml bottle. Mine actually tested at 6.7G.

As long as it's not cloudy, then it should be perfectly ok to use - stability when stored in dark, dry conditions is good.

It tastes unpleasant but not completely unbearable, but the bitter taste can easily be masked by squeezing something like toothpaste in your mouth afterwards (well, I found that worked for me).

Now the dose… technically anything above 2G can be lethal and I'm confident you would not survive 6.5G. However it may take longer for you to die (you'll still pass out quick enough, so will just be in an extended coma stage). If I only had one bottle, I'd still be confident of the outcome.