Help Question on Method

[Pancakesplease]

Hi

My plan is to head to a cliff that overlooks the ocean, and jump. I will also be drinking right on the edge of said cliff. So ideally I'll be very drunk, and it will be easy to jump off. I've scoped the area out a few times and It's a relatively long fall down, definitely more than a 4 story building.

Thoughts? I am really just hoping this will be effective. I highly doubt anyone would 'rescue' me as it is isolated and it will be night, but I suppose I am more asking about the pain and suffering I may have during the attempt and if there is anything else to be considered.

Sorry about spelling/grammar

Thanks

 

[Placo]

In theory you should lose consciousness as soon as you hit the water so it shouldn't be painful, I had even read that you lose consciousness when flying from too much fear but I'm sceptical, alcohol certainly helps against fear.

 

[Pancakesplease]

In theory you should lose consciousness as soon as you hit the water so it shouldn't be painful, I had even read that you lose consciousness when flying from too much fear but I'm sceptical, alcohol certainly helps against fear.

If I didn't immediately, would you say the process of drowning while intoxicated would be 'good' in the sense of not being very aware of it? This would be based on speculation of course

 

[yeh it's all gucci]

I don't think being drunk will necessarily make it easy to jump off, it will be the hardest thing you've ever done.

 

[Placo]

If I didn't immediately, would you say the process of drowning while intoxicated would be 'good' in the sense of not being very aware of it? This would be based on speculation of course

I think it is difficult to land on the water from that distance and remain alert, the trauma should be so strong as to make you lose consciousness but I can't give you certainties, maybe you could do some research.

Regarding the feeling of suffocation, I read people who describe it as horrible but also people who didn't consider it that bad, when drunk it should be better than when sober I think.

 

[sanitystruggle]

Four stories is about 40 feet or 12 metres. That doesn't seem high enough for a guaranteed outcome and there's a risk of surviving with serious injuries. I'd look for somewhere a lot higher.

 

[Placo]

Four stories is about 40 feet or 12 metres. That doesn't seem high enough for a guaranteed outcome and there's a risk of surviving with serious injuries. I'd look for somewhere a lot higher.

In fact you're right, 12 meters isn't that much, I don't know why it seemed to me that OP was talking about a considerable distance, maybe it's because I tend to imagine precipices as quite high.

 

[Pancakesplease]

Four stories is about 40 feet or 12 metres. That doesn't seem high enough for a guaranteed outcome and there's a risk of surviving with serious injuries. I'd look for somewhere a lot higher.

I would ideally like someplace higher but this is the highest point I have available to me that's not a building in my city. Would the landing being ocean not be a certainty of drowning?

 

[DogSandwich]

I mean, this is a way that people die, certainly. Even accidentally. I think many of us on these forums are trying to take all of the uncertainty out of the situation. We're attempting to control for all factors. We want a method that is efficacious and peaceful.
Alcohol, in generous amounts, would make many situations potentially lethal, not to speak of jumping off of cliffs.
You could very likely die this way, but there is no way for anybody to attest to the qualities or certainty of that death. It's too erratic a method.

 

[Pancakesplease]

I mean, this is a way that people die, certainly. Even accidentally. I think many of us on these forums are trying to take all of the uncertainty out of the situation. We're attempting to control for all factors. We want a method that is efficacious and peaceful.
Alcohol, in generous amounts, would make many situations potentially lethal, not to speak of jumping off of cliffs.
You could very likely die this way, but there is no way for anybody to attest to the qualities or certainty of that death. It's too erratic a method.

I understand. I suppose I do wish for any uncertainties to be removed, but that is not realistic. I only wish for the death to be effective and relatively quick, which this way seems to be leaning towards. The immediate fear and pain, both emotional and physical I know will be temporary compared to the suffering I face over the course of my natural life. Of course that does not matter much when it is the last thing you feel. This is difficult. It always is.

 

[sanitystruggle]

I would ideally like someplace higher but this is the highest point I have available to me that's not a building in my city. Would the landing being ocean not be a certainty of drowning?

It's likely although without knowing the specifics of the location it's hard to say how certain, but it sounds like a frightening and possibly painful way to go. I'm sorry you feel you're left with no other choice than to consider risking this

 

[Pancakesplease]

It's likely although without knowing the specifics of the location it's hard to say how certain, but it sounds like a frightening and possibly painful way to go. I'm sorry you feel you're left with no other choice than to consider risking this

Thank you, and for the input.

 

[doneforlife]

After how many minutes will one loose consciousness post drinking alcohol ?

 

[rozeske]

If the hight really is around 4 story that is around 30 to 60 ft. The minimum fetal hight on to water bodies is 250ft. So am afraid that is not gonna be certain enough nor peaceful enough. I wouldn't risk it with this hight.

 

[sanitystruggle]

After how many minutes will one loose consciousness post drinking alcohol ?

Ten minutes to never... It's not reliable and varies hugely from person to person and even within the same person at different times. Alcohol just isn't a reliable way to knock yourself out.

 

[doneforlife]

Ten minutes to never... It's not reliable and varies hugely from person to person and even within the same person at different times. Alcohol just isn't a reliable way to knock yourself out.

Thanks. What would be the quantity to get knocked out ( I have never consumed alcohol before). Also does the quality of alcohol matter ? Which brand would be more helpful?

 

[sanitystruggle]

Thanks. What would be the quantity to get knocked out ( I have never consumed alcohol before). Also does the quality of alcohol matter ? Which brand would be more helpful?

That's the point. You can't just reliably say "this amount of alcohol will quietly make this person unconscious". It's unpredictable and you're more likely to end up dizzy, nauseous, feeling like death and puking your guts up. Alcohol isn't like sedative drugs or sleeping tablets. It comes with a whole load of unpleasant side effects. Especially if you have no prior experience with it.

I'd really advise against trying it but if you're dead set on it then you want spirits rather than dilute alcohol like wine or beer. But you'll probably struggle to get something like vodka or whiskey down if you've no drinking experience so you'll want a mixer like water or juice.

But again, you're not going to just find peaceful unconsciousness by drinking heavily. You'll just make yourself sick and feel crappy and set yourself up for a horrible hangover.

 

[lita-lassi]

yeah sorry this plan sucks especially if you dont know how alcohol is going to effect you. by itself it doesnt just knock anyone out right away accept in extremely rare circumstances where theres a strange reaction. that statistically isnt going to be you. this cliff isnt high enough even if there were sharp rock at the bottom for death to be the more guaranteed outcome

 

[Linda]

A 4 storey building is nowhere near high enough. A good rule of thumb is that if you jump from 100 ft or more, and land on a hard surface (concrete, rocks, etc.) you have very little chance of survival. 100 ft is about 12 storeys. Can you find a different cliff? You don't want to finish up alive but badly injured.