PSA: Buy SN while you still can

[mojabaka]

Yeah, I bought mine last week. Got an email yesterday that they will deliver it in the next 10 days. Hopefully it won't get stopped somewhere on the way.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

At the risk of sounding alarmist and overzealous, I would like to strongly encourage everyone on this forum who does not already have their preferred exit resources on hand to acquire and store a small quantity of SN at a safe, hidden location (of course, if your current living situation allows it).

Despite the fussyness of the full method, with its antiemetics, antacids, beta-blockers and fasting, SN is becoming an increasingly popular method for a safe and painless suicide - it is effectively becoming the poor man's N due to its low price, availability and legality. The sheer volume of posts about it on this forum is proof of that. The powers that be - governments, corporations, moral zealots and pro-lifers in general - hate this. They want your heart beating and your lungs breathing under any circumstances that allow you to consume and pay taxes for another day. Keeping only the "scary", but effectively unregulatable options available (hanging, drowning, anything involving loss of blood or fires) is one of their many methods of forcing your hand into submission and keeping you existing, begrudgingly tolerating the woes of living under whatever conditions brought you to this cheery forum for just one more day.

The PPH describes SN as hard to regulate due to its widespread use across many industries, yet still warns of recent roadblocks being set up to hinder or discourage purchase by individuals in some first world countries - especially by "vulnerable" individuals (those with known mental health issues, disabilities, the elderly, etc.). The medical literature on the subject has also been steadily growing in the last 3 years, and I would not be surprised if in the near future the substance gets regulated into oblivion and goes the way of N. It has happened before and it will happen again. It's not at all unreasonable to speculate that, in a few years, purchasing it as a private customer could be unfeasible or terribly bureaucratic in most of the developed world. Again, this doesn't need to be an outright ban (like cyanide, etc.). They only need to make its purchase inconvenient enough to keep you on the grind for a few more months before reaching the breaking point and trying something else.

Some have argued that the very notion of this scenario actually happening is ridiculous, since it would effectively stop the public from curing meat. To that, I say: governments have done far worse and far stupider. Even worse, pro-lifers and a good chunk of the general public would enthusiastically support such a restriction and wonder why such a "dangerous chemical" has been so unregulated for all these years. They would also unironically ask why would any individual want to do something as outlandish as curing meat.

Therefore, I would like to encourage you all to keep a small - sealed - container of the stuff on hand, at room temperature, and away from prying eyes and hands. Remember: it oxidises into a nitrate when exposed to air, but otherwise has an indefinite shelf life. It could also poison you through the skin, so don't touch it.

Even if your current situation miraculously improves by the simultaneous death of all of those that wronged you or an unexpected win at the lotto, life's a fickle mistress and might just decide to bestow upon you the blessings of dementia, paralysis or ALS down the road - who knows? It's better to be prepared. Best case scenario, you lead a fulfilling life, never open the bottle and your grandkids will get to wonder if you were a moonlighting chemist when sorting through your stuff.

To the feds and politicians reading this and getting ideas - get fucked.

I genuinely appreciate your empathy and concern for others in a similar situation to yourself

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Isn't it ironic that the inclination to ban it will only increase demand for this product amongst the suicidal? Glad I already got mine a while ago.

 

[pueblo85]

thnk yu

 

[wasteofspace532]

Can someone PM me any SN sources for australia?

 

[Lawliet]

loudwolf was going to be my source back in 2020 but i never bought it, now i have no clue where to get it. i'm in the US and if anyone would be kind enough to PM me, i would appreciate it

 

[takemenowpls]

Days ago I put a post up warning of this exact same thing. It's only a matter of time before it's hard to get.

 

[avoid_slow_death]

When I first started reading SS,there was an SN company called Loudwolf. Their sn had a very good reputation. I hesitated to buy it then,and LW subsequently stopped selling it!! A lot of high quality sn has been taken away. I can see a time where there is hardly any sn for ctbers!

That's the brand I purchased back in 2020. I know for a fact it's extremely effective. Keeping it sealed and hidden until the day arrives for me to finally stop playing this, "Ah ha! You thought I got you!" game death and I have been playing a vast majority of my life and finally surrender to its peaceful embrace....can't wait for that day. It's actually making me happy thinking about it.

 

[lilin]

At the risk of sounding alarmist and overzealous, I would like to strongly encourage everyone on this forum who does not already have their preferred exit resources on hand to acquire and store a small quantity of SN at a safe, hidden location (of course, if your current living situation allows it).

Despite the fussyness of the full method, with its antiemetics, antacids, beta-blockers and fasting, SN is becoming an increasingly popular method for a safe and painless suicide - it is effectively becoming the poor man's N due to its low price, availability and legality. The sheer volume of posts about it on this forum is proof of that. The powers that be - governments, corporations, moral zealots and pro-lifers in general - hate this. They want your heart beating and your lungs breathing under any circumstances that allow you to consume and pay taxes for another day. Keeping only the "scary", but effectively unregulatable options available (hanging, drowning, anything involving loss of blood or fires) is one of their many methods of forcing your hand into submission and keeping you existing, begrudgingly tolerating the woes of living under whatever conditions brought you to this cheery forum for just one more day.

The PPH describes SN as hard to regulate due to its widespread use across many industries, yet still warns of recent roadblocks being set up to hinder or discourage purchase by individuals in some first world countries - especially by "vulnerable" individuals (those with known mental health issues, disabilities, the elderly, etc.). The medical literature on the subject has also been steadily growing in the last 3 years, and I would not be surprised if in the near future the substance gets regulated into oblivion and goes the way of N. It has happened before and it will happen again. It's not at all unreasonable to speculate that, in a few years, purchasing it as a private customer could be unfeasible or terribly bureaucratic in most of the developed world. Again, this doesn't need to be an outright ban (like cyanide, etc.). They only need to make its purchase inconvenient enough to keep you on the grind for a few more months before reaching the breaking point and trying something else.

Some have argued that the very notion of this scenario actually happening is ridiculous, since it would effectively stop the public from curing meat. To that, I say: governments have done far worse and far stupider. Even worse, pro-lifers and a good chunk of the general public would enthusiastically support such a restriction and wonder why such a "dangerous chemical" has been so unregulated for all these years. They would also unironically ask why would any individual want to do something as outlandish as curing meat.

Therefore, I would like to encourage you all to keep a small - sealed - container of the stuff on hand, at room temperature, and away from prying eyes and hands. Remember: it oxidises into a nitrate when exposed to air, but otherwise has an indefinite shelf life. It could also poison you through the skin, so don't touch it.

Even if your current situation miraculously improves by the simultaneous death of all of those that wronged you or an unexpected win at the lotto, life's a fickle mistress and might just decide to bestow upon you the blessings of dementia, paralysis or ALS down the road - who knows? It's better to be prepared. Best case scenario, you lead a fulfilling life, never open the bottle and your grandkids will get to wonder if you were a moonlighting chemist when sorting through your stuff.

To the feds and politicians reading this and getting ideas - get fucked.

Hi, sorry for bumping an old thread but I wanted to ask you if it's okay to store sn in temperatures around 30-40 degrees celsius for a few months? Will it be fine or slowly degrade? I know that extremely high temperatures like above 200 degrees celsius destruct sn, but what about storing it in 'summer heat' for a prolonged period of time?

 

[throwawayyy]

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[The Final Solution]

Hi, sorry for bumping an old thread but I wanted to ask you if it's okay to store sn in temperatures around 30-40 degrees celsius for a few months? Will it be fine or slowly degrade? I know that extremely high temperatures like above 200 degrees celsius destruct sn, but what about storing it in 'summer heat' for a prolonged period of time?

That's pretty difficult to know with any certainty. Most manufacturer safety data sheets would recommend that you keep it between 15°C-25°C. In any case I would recommend using testing strips after the summer if you're in doubt.

 

[spoiledsick]

Keeping only the "scary", but effectively unregulatable options available (hanging, drowning, anything involving loss of blood or fires)...

Ahhh, the 4 Horsemen of Affordable Death!!

Hanging, Drowning, Blood, and Fire.

 

[The Final Solution]

Coming back to bump this old thread because just yesterday I went looking for a backup bottle of SN on the site I first bought it from - a fairly large online marketplace in my country - and all SN listings had silently vanished (I'm quite sure they were up until 3-2 weeks ago). That got me really sh00k, so this week I'll be buying some extra bottles from a lab supplier and hiding them all over the place.

Remember to buy your exit stuff and keep it safe while you can, folks!

 

[old_constant69]

I wish all of us in these forums could win the lotto.

 

[WorthlessCoward]

Coming back to bump this old thread because just yesterday I went looking for a backup bottle of SN on the site I first bought it from - a fairly large online marketplace in my country - and all SN listings had silently vanished (I'm quite sure they were up until 3-2 weeks ago). That got me really sh00k, so this week I'll be buying some extra bottles from a lab supplier and hiding them all over the place.

Remember to buy your exit stuff and keep it safe while you can, folks!

Same thing happened to me, bought SN weeks ago, kept it in my closet, think they got humified so I went to the same site to see if there's any other supplier, puff all gone

 

[LastFlowers]

That's the brand I purchased back in 2020. I know for a fact it's extremely effective. Keeping it sealed and hidden until the day arrives for me to finally stop playing this, "Ah ha! You thought I got you!" game death and I have been playing a vast majority of my life and finally surrender to its peaceful embrace....can't wait for that day. It's actually making me happy thinking about it.

Has yours clumped?
And do you mind telling how you stored it?

One of mine has clumped (I got two at the same time, just incase) and I'm very concerned about whether or not it's still effective.

 

[System28]

Has yours clumped?
And do you mind telling how you stored it?

One of mine has clumped (I got two at the same time, just incase) and I'm very concerned about whether or not it's still effective.

guess its normal become clumped i ready that alot of time here

or im wrong?

 

[LastFlowers]

guess its normal become clumped i ready that alot of time here

or im wrong?

You mean you read that a lot of people had clumped SN?
Or that they used clumped SN successfully?


Some seem to say clumping won't reduce how effective it is and is due to no caking agents in the product, others say that clumping is a sure sign it probably won't even work, that moisture got to it..and then some assertions in between.
Idk what's the truth and if it's dependent on what type of SN or how it was originally stored, etc.

 

[Source Energy]

I am so grateful I have it...I am grateful to this community, and to sites like CCS for existing and making this possible. I will board that bus soon, and I love that I have my ticket ready.

 

[general bacon]

I sadly waited too long to purchase from IC…I don't have the severe need to go right now and that's why I was waiting around. If anyone can PM a link that will deliver to the US I'd appreciate it. Just so I have it. Thank you!

 

[NambaSutra]

Keeping only the "scary", but effectively unregulatable options available

Keeping only the "scary", but effectively unregulatable options available (hanging, drowning, anything involving loss of blood or fires)

A little off topic but for USA only and it's f'ed up politics I think guns will be an available method for a long time.

Even if your current situation miraculously improves by the simultaneous death of all of those that wronged you or an unexpected win at the lotto,

Neither of those things would help me. Mental health problems are a bitch and if you're as unlucky as me more money or whatever wouldn't help. Even if I had a billion dollars there is nothing I could do, nowhere I could go, nothing I could buy that would fix my brain and my out of control emotions anymore.

 

[redtruck1]

Wanting to grab some ASAP is why I finally made an account and stopped lurking - I know with my luck, if I left it any longer it wouldn't be around any mo

Keeping only the "scary", but effectively unregulatable options available


A little off topic but for USA only and it's f'ed up politics I think guns will be an available method for a long time.



Neither of those things would help me. Mental health problems are a bitch and if you're as unlucky as me more money or whatever wouldn't help. Even if I had a billion dollars there is nothing I could do, nowhere I could go, nothing I could buy that would fix my brain and my out of control emotions anymore.

I'm in the same situation-no amount of money can cure my suicidal depression

 

[nlpgirl99]

At the risk of sounding alarmist and overzealous, I would like to strongly encourage everyone on this forum who does not already have their preferred exit resources on hand to acquire and store a small quantity of SN at a safe, hidden location (of course, if your current living situation allows it).

Despite the fussyness of the full method, with its antiemetics, antacids, beta-blockers and fasting, SN is becoming an increasingly popular method for a safe and painless suicide - it is effectively becoming the poor man's N due to its low price, availability and legality. The sheer volume of posts about it on this forum is proof of that. The powers that be - governments, corporations, moral zealots and pro-lifers in general - hate this. They want your heart beating and your lungs breathing under any circumstances that allow you to consume and pay taxes for another day. Keeping only the "scary", but effectively unregulatable options available (hanging, drowning, anything involving loss of blood or fires) is one of their many methods of forcing your hand into submission and keeping you existing, begrudgingly tolerating the woes of living under whatever conditions brought you to this cheery forum for just one more day.

The PPH describes SN as hard to regulate due to its widespread use across many industries, yet still warns of recent roadblocks being set up to hinder or discourage purchase by individuals in some first world countries - especially by "vulnerable" individuals (those with known mental health issues, disabilities, the elderly, etc.). The medical literature on the subject has also been steadily growing in the last 3 years, and I would not be surprised if in the near future the substance gets regulated into oblivion and goes the way of N. It has happened before and it will happen again. It's not at all unreasonable to speculate that, in a few years, purchasing it as a private customer could be unfeasible or terribly bureaucratic in most of the developed world. Again, this doesn't need to be an outright ban (like cyanide, etc.). They only need to make its purchase inconvenient enough to keep you on the grind for a few more months before reaching the breaking point and trying something else.

Some have argued that the very notion of this scenario actually happening is ridiculous, since it would effectively stop the public from curing meat. To that, I say: governments have done far worse and far stupider. Even worse, pro-lifers and a good chunk of the general public would enthusiastically support such a restriction and wonder why such a "dangerous chemical" has been so unregulated for all these years. They would also unironically ask why would any individual want to do something as outlandish as curing meat.

Therefore, I would like to encourage you all to keep a small - sealed - container of the stuff on hand, at room temperature, and away from prying eyes and hands. Remember: it oxidises into a nitrate when exposed to air, but otherwise has an indefinite shelf life. It could also poison you through the skin, so don't touch it.

Even if your current situation miraculously improves by the simultaneous death of all of those that wronged you or an unexpected win at the lotto, life's a fickle mistress and might just decide to bestow upon you the blessings of dementia, paralysis or ALS down the road - who knows? It's better to be prepared. Best case scenario, you lead a fulfilling life, never open the bottle and your grandkids will get to wonder if you were a moonlighting chemist when sorting through your stuff.

To the feds and politicians reading this and getting ideas - get fucked.

Will my SN expire if I leave it in the box it came in, unopened?

 

[System28]

Has yours clumped?
And do you mind telling how you stored it?

One of mine has clumped (I got two at the same time, just incase) and I'm very concerned about whether or not it's still effective.

yeh mine is clumped, not opened bottle but shaking it i can tell that is, stored at normal temperature like 5-35 celsius the ranges

yeh i heard thats is because of no caking agents also is normal became clumped but im no chemistry so no idea also

 

[imlookingforward]

just ordered mine, hoping this stuff is potent enough

 

[avoid_slow_death]

Has yours clumped?
And do you mind telling how you stored it?

One of mine has clumped (I got two at the same time, just incase) and I'm very concerned about whether or not it's still effective.

It has, but from what I have read, that is much less a cause of concern than discoloration, which mine is still a solid white. Means it's very likely still potent. I store it in a cool and dry place. Best bet for things like that.

 

[Throwaway8675309]

Mine clumped but has been sealed and I bought it in 2019 iirc. Shouldn't it last forever?

 

[Jezzibell]

I've still never been able to find a source for it in my country, especially since it's not allowed to post sources in the comments.

What country?

 

[SunflowerBrains]

How regulated is SN in Canada right now?

 

[nothingbutmybest]

Sadly it's already regulated from most buyers in US (as far as I can tell)

How are people in the US having such a hard time finding SN? hint.. use Google and click "shopping"

A while back, I remember doing this and getting a lot of results for sodium NITRATE not nitrite. If you have bought it, I'd recommend you double checking because nitrite is the one that kills, not nitrate.