Method Potassium Chloride

[JohnDoe1]

Why isn't this salt mentioned in PPeH, list of Lethal Salts. Its used to execute death-row inmates, so it's definitely reliable. It causes death in a matter of seconds, so its definitely peaceful. It is readily available and is very cheap.The only problem, is that it has to be injected, self-administering a intravenous injection wouldn't be that tricky, heroin addicts do it all the time.

It sounds too good to be true. Why doesn't anyone mention this. what wrong with it? thoughts?

 

[fluxis]

Also interested. Could anyone by chance link a good pure supply for potassium chloride? Also what would be the lethal grams-miligrams in a normal insulin syringe?

 

[Ayeitsalaska]

Where do I find information about this method in detail? (I'm new)

 

[JohnDoe1]

Where do I find information about this method in detail? (I'm new)

Unfortunately, there is not much information about this method online. There is however a case report of a 20-year old nurse student injecting potassium chloride. he/she went into cardiac arrest with asystole rhythm(most serious and irreversible form of cardiac arrest). So, that means it's definitely lethal.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/criem/2012/323818/

 

[JohnDoe1]

Also interested. Could anyone by chance link a good pure supply for potassium chloride? Also what would be the lethal grams-miligrams in a normal insulin syringe?

Lethal dose is somewhere between 57.2 mg/kg to 66.7 mg/kg. You can find potassium chloride on amazon. Some people substitute it for Table Salt, so I am guessing it would be available in general stores too.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Do you have to inject it into your veins in order to die, or can you swallow it down your throat to die?

 

[JohnDoe1]

Do you have to inject it into your veins in order to die, or can you swallow it down your throat to die?

You have to inject it. Swallowing requires a lot more salt than injection. and it wont be fast enough, so, it would make you sick.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Darn.

 

[JohnDoe1]

Found some more information on KCl...
Source: Geo Stone - Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

I wish I could buy sodium cyanide.

 

[JohnDoe1]

I wish I could buy sodium cyanide.

Whats wrong with injection?

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

I don't have an injector, like a syringe.

 

[JohnDoe1]

I don't have an injector, like a syringe.

Can't you buy syringes from medical stores? do they require prescription as well?

I can just walk into a pharmacy and buy IV equipment along with 1.5 g vials of Potassium Chloride. Perks of living in a shitty 3rd-world country.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

I've been never tried. I didn't think it was possible.

 

[letmeseethedeath]

i wish this would be good for me but i'm afraid of injection

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

And I don't know how to use an Iv.

 

[JohnDoe1]

i wish this would be good for me but i'm afraid of injection

I am afraid too, but desperate times call for desperate measures. I just have to man up and go for it, I guess.

 

[letmeseethedeath]

I am afraid too, but desperate times call for desperate measures. I just have to man up and go for it, I guess.

let me know some good news about it friend, i'm valueting this. maybe i can overcome this phobia of injection

 

[fluxis]

Would I be able to use a normal insulin instead of a bag? Could you link me which Potassium Chloride to order for this?

 

[dysphoria]

Would I be able to use a normal insulin instead of a bag? Could you link me which Potassium Chloride to order for this?

"Insulin syringe" was only mentioned because they're widely available syringes, but this has nothing to do with insulin itself. It just happens to be what the syringes are known for. This thread is about overdose on potassium.

It may be too much bulk to fit potassium into a syringe which you can fully inject (reliably) before the effects begin, which should be rapidly. Injecting equipment can be bought anonymously from drug user harm reduction websites. All manner of equipment. An insulin syringe is like 1mL, isn't it? It says on that paper that 12-14mL is the absolute minimum volume for a lethal dose, because the water is saturated with the large amount of potassium required for death.

"Beside the patient were found four 50-mL syringes and empty vials of potassium chloride (20 mL, 10%)."

If someone can inject four 50mL syringes before the effects begin, well done to them. Not a great way to go unless you are already under heavy anaesthesia, so the only way to do it peacefully would be to rig up a drip, get very high, then be asleep before the potassium has taken effect. This is what they talk about in that screenshot earlier in the thread. If someone had access to all that equipment and knowledge, they'd probably find a better method, maybe that's why it's uncommon.

 

[Sunset Limited]

This is the last of the three death injections. I've seen it written as potassium bromide. This is the method:

Conventional lethal injection protocol. Typically, three drugs are used in lethal injection. Sodium thiopental is used to induce unconsciousness, pancuronium bromide (Pavulon) to cause muscle paralysis and respiratory arrest, and potassium chloride to stop the heart.

This is a failed lethal injection video. The injection goes to the muscles, not the vein. The prisoner doesn't lose consciousness. When potassium bromide is given, he says, "I'm burning." When given to the vein, if we are conscious, there may be a possibility of burning in the whole body. It's a salt. We need to investigate about this. Used for animal euthanasia, but when the animal is unconscious!






Can this salt be painful when injected into the vein?

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[dysphoria]

This is the last of the three death injections. I've seen it written as potassium bromide. This is the method:

Conventional lethal injection protocol. Typically, three drugs are used in lethal injection. Sodium thiopental is used to induce unconsciousness, pancuronium bromide (Pavulon) to cause muscle paralysis and respiratory arrest, and potassium chloride to stop the heart.

This is a failed lethal injection video. The injection goes to the muscles, not the vein. The prisoner doesn't lose consciousness. When potassium bromide is given, he says, "I'm burning." When given to the vein, if we are conscious, there may be a possibility of burning in the whole body. It's a salt. We need to investigate about this. Used for animal euthanasia, but when the animal is unconscious!






Can this salt be painful when injected into the vein?

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Watching that video was infuriating. Any doctor who thinks sodium thiopental can be substituted for midazolam should not be in any position to be creating their own procedures. Midazolam is not an anaesthetic, it's a mild sedative that any severe pain will break right through even if you inject large amounts into someone, like they do in the video. Thiopental is sedative and anaesthetic, it puts you to sleep and kills pain. Same class of drug as Nembutal. They couldn't get hold of thiopental, the only important part of a largely irrelevant 3 drug combination (it still works without the other two, but they do not work without it - not without an excruciating death), so they use something only superficially similar (midazolam) and push on ahead with a painful death, which the prisoner couldn't even communicate because of the paralytic. Shameful.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Watching that video was infuriating. Any doctor who thinks sodium thiopental can be substituted for midazolam should not be in any position to be creating their own procedures. Midazolam is not an anaesthetic, it's a mild sedative that any severe pain will break right through even if you inject large amounts into someone, like they do in the video. Thiopental is sedative and anaesthetic, it puts you to sleep and kills pain. Same class of drug as Nembutal. They couldn't get hold of thiopental, the only important part of a largely irrelevant 3 drug combination (it still works without the other two, but they do not work without it - not without an excruciating death), so they use something only superficially similar (midazolam) and push on ahead with a painful death, which the prisoner couldn't even communicate because of the paralytic. Shameful.

The damn doctor couldn't find the vein Poor man.

 

[riverstyx]

If you've got to apply capital punishment, why not just use a morphine overdose or pentobarbital?

Seems like some people make a point out of the convict suffering.

I'm against the death penalty btw, because we have documented cases of innocent people being killed.

Spending the rest of your life in prison seems like a worse fate than taking the easy way out by dying anyway.

 

[Sunset Limited]

If you've got to apply capital punishment, why not just use a morphine overdose or pentobarbital?

Seems like some people make a point out of the convict suffering.

I'm against the death penalty btw, because we have documented cases of innocent people being killed.

Spending the rest of your life in prison seems like a worse fate than taking the easy way out by dying anyway.

Because that way, the prisoner's death takes a long time. They're speeding up with these three drugs. Actually this method works most of the time but in this video the doctor has injected into the muscle instead of the vein. Poor man.

 

[riverstyx]

Because that way, the prisoner's death takes a long time. They're speeding up with these three drugs. Actually this method works most of the time but in this video the doctor has injected into the muscle instead of the vein. Poor man.

To be fair, a massive N overdose leads to death in minutes.

 

[Neville1]

To be fair, a massive N overdose leads to death in minutes.

The feds (US) will be using injectable N only starting December and three states have already used it.

Why isn't this salt mentioned in PPeH, list of Lethal Salts. Its used to execute death-row inmates, so it's definitely reliable.

Because the injection is hideously painful. With the execution protocol, the prisoner is pre-medicated with barbiturate and paralytic to ease and mask pain.